Re: [IAEP] Community Woes - Bilingüe

2011-01-05 Thread Carlos Rabassa
La versión en Español sigue al texto original en Inglés

Congratulations Bernie on taking this first step!

It is important and long overdue.

I fully agree with your basic thoughts:

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You say,  among other things:

I thought it would be a a good starting point for a good discussion about what 
could be improved in *our* camp.

To begin with, I've always thought that there isn't nearly enough 
self-criticism in both Sugar Labs and OLPC.
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I recently read an article on the very popular,  subject of the torrent of 
information coming our way and confusing us.

The author said many of us enjoy forums and mailing lists as a solution to 
reduce the volume of information.

Let´s spend time in the forums and lists we subscribe to and we will find most 
of the material is of interest to us.



The author pointed out however a danger I never thought about.

We suscribe to a list or forum because after reading the messages posted in 
them,  we find out we like either the content or the authors because we 
generally agree with what they say.

On the other hand,  without much thought,  we just discontinue our subscription 
if we come to realize the forum is not for us.



The danger is we have thus isolated ourselves in the middle of the internet the 
most open media ever created.



It is my humble opinion the Sugar-related lists should open up to everyone and 
try to help and give guidance specially to those who need it most who are the 
new ones in the lists.

Among the new ones I would give special attention to those who are not computer 
geniuses,  but who are basic players in the whole team.

This change could be of enormous help to those already in the lists who enjoy 
talking to each other and frequently get upset with comments from outsiders.



It seems to me the computer geniuses in the lists have forgotten they would be 
completely worthless if no one in the world used the programs and systems they 
produce.



A good way of starting the year would be to review the whole field,  remove the 
blinders on the sides of our eyes and look at everyone everywhere.

Anyone planning to produce a product or service be it a loaf of bread, a 
computer program, a gun, or anything else,  should at some point think who is 
going to use that product or service and what do they want to use it for.

As they make progress,  they should never lose sight of these end users and how 
they want to use the product or service.


Listen to teachers, students, relatives in charge of those students, 
volunteers, everyone.

Do not chase them away as ignorants because they do not understand your 
technical language.

The most intelligent and educated individuals have the obligation of speaking 
in a language comprehensible to the ones they want to reach.


With our best wishes to you,  Bernie and to all!

Carlos Rabassa
Volunteer
Plan Ceibal
Montevideo, Uruguay



Versión en Español:

Bernie, felicitaciones por dar este primer paso!

Es importante y debía haberse dado hace mucho tiempo.

Estoy completamente de acuerdo con tus ideas básicas:

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Dices,  entre otras cosas:

Pensé [el artículo que adjunto] sería un buen punto de arranque para una buena 
discusión sobre lo que podría mejorarse en *nuestro* grupo.

Para comenzar, siempre pensé que,  ni en Sugar Labs ni en OLPC,  hay algo que 
siquiera se acerque a suficiente auto-crítica.
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Recientemente leí un artículo,  sobre el tema muy popular del torrente de 
información que nos llega y confunde.

El autor decía que muchos de nosotros disfrutamos participando en foros y 
listas de correos como solución para reducir el volumen de información.

Pasamos tiempo en los foros y listas a que nos suscribimos y encontramos que la 
mayor parte del material nos interesa.


El autor señalaba sin embargo,  un peligro en el que yo nunca había pensado.

Nos suscribimos a una lista o a un foro porque después de leer los mensajes 
publicados,  descubrimos que nos gusta ya sea el contenido o los autores porque 
generalmente estamos de acuerdo con lo que dicen.

Por otra parte,  sin pensarlo mucho,  simplemente cancelamos nuestra 
suscripción si llegamos a la conclusión de que el foro no es para nosotros.


El peligro es que nos hemos aislado,  nosotros mismos,  en medio de internet,  
el medio más abierto jamás creado.



Mi humilde opinión es que las listas relacionadas con Sugar deberían abrirse a 
todos y tratar de ayudar y guiar específicamente a aquellos que necesitan más 
ayuda,  los nuevos en las listas.

Entre los nuevos habría que prestar atención especial a aquellos que no son 
genios de la informática,  pero que son jugadores básicos en el cuadro total.

Este cambio sería de enorme ayuda a aquellos que ya participan en las listas 
disfrutando de hablar entre ellos y que frecuentemente se molestan con 
comentarios de los de afuera.


Me da la impresión de que los genios de la 

[IAEP] Cautions from one laptop per child in marketing technological innovation

2011-01-05 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi all.


This is  A document from The London School of Economics.


Cautions from one laptop per child in marketing technological innovation to
LDCs http://bit.ly/hG5QIv


Cheers!.
Rafael Ortiz
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