[IAEP] NYTimes.com: Open Networking Foundation Pursues New Standards

2011-03-22 Thread carnen
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TECHNOLOGY | March 22, 2011
Open Networking Foundation Pursues New Standards
By JOHN MARKOFF
The benefits of new standards, proponents say, would be more flexible and 
secure networks that are less likely to suffer from congestion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/technology/internet/22internet.html?emc=eta1




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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

2011-03-22 Thread David Van Assche
While working at guadalinex I seriously pushed to include sugar.  Resistance
was futile as the Borg might say. You see they have a pretty established
Linux environment that has many custom educational tools.  It is an
extremely uphill battle to get them using even a tiny part of sugar,  and
that coming from an ex-INSIDER.  so good luck.

Regards
David

On Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM, Juan Rafael Fernández García jrf...@gmail.com
wrote:

2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at:


 Especially given how much Linux is used around
 schools in the country and that Latin America is...
I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in
France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU
Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of
by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from
the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South
American one (OLPC or similar hardware).

Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of
them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system
has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services,
etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an
environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an
alternative independent approach.

IMHO.

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http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/
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Re: [IAEP] Any olpc/Sugar/ICT4E people in Spain?

2011-03-22 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
If we take a step back I think David's observation really hits the nail
on the head in a broader sense.

While FLOSS solutions don't have the traditional vendor lock-in they do
often seem to come with some sort of platform lock-in (as per David's
example wrt custom educational tools).

Hence for example in the Sugar context I think that the efforts by
Walter and others to get a foot in the door of Argentina's Conectar
Igualdad program early on is vitally important. Two, three years down
the road it would probably take significantly more momentum to get Sugar
accepted in an already established environment.

As we'll probably see several initiatives similar to Conectar Igualdad
in the coming years and it makes sense to reach out to them early on.

Cheers,
Christoph

Am 22.03.2011 20:36, schrieb David Van Assche:
 While working at guadalinex I seriously pushed to include sugar. 
 Resistance was futile as the Borg might say. You see they have a pretty
 established Linux environment that has many custom educational tools. 
 It is an extremely uphill battle to get them using even a tiny part of
 sugar,  and that coming from an ex-INSIDER.  so good luck.
 
 Regards
 David
 
 On Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM, Juan Rafael Fernández García
 jrf...@gmail.com mailto:jrf...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/3/21 Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at
 mailto:e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at:


  Especially given how much Linux is used around
  schools in the country and that Latin America is...

 I'm also surprised that I've seen a bigger OLPC/Sugar community in
 France than in Spain. I have an explanation, though: PCs with some GNU
 Linux educational distro are deployed all around Spain, taken care of
 by the regional authorities, which makes the situation different from
 the French one (individual or local initiatives) or the Central/South
 American one (OLPC or similar hardware).

 Consider the case in Andalusia. All the computers, the thousands of
 them, are administered and updated remotely - so the operating system
 has to be the same all around, the network configuration and services,
 etc. From the Spanish point of view, Sugar running on GNU LInux, as an
 environment like Squeak, would be more interesting than as an
 alternative independent approach.

 IMHO.

 -- 
 Juan Rafael Fernández
 http://people.ofset.org/jrfernandez/


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co-editor, www.olpcnews.com
e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com
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