Re: [IAEP] New Finance Request: Airfare to EduJAM for Sebastian Silva

2011-04-22 Thread Tabitha Roder
On 22 April 2011 16:41, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: As per the new http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance I'm asking for Sugar Labs to sponsor my airfare to Montevideo Sugar Summit EduJAM http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Uruguay_Summit_2011. For the olpc San Francisco bay

Re: [IAEP] New activity from OLPC France

2011-04-22 Thread Stefanie Nobel
Hi Ian, Certainly, my goal is to make it customizable as far as possible. I plan to provide the admin with the possibility to adjust the databases, in order to adapt the content to the local context (e.g. diseases like obesity or diabetes). For now I am thinking of three different databases:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] New activity from OLPC France

2011-04-22 Thread Stefanie Nobel
Hi Walter, That’s an interesting point. At the beginning I also had something more like an experimental cook studio in mind. During my research I found some funny things, like making an own pH indicator with red cabbage, a natural pH indicator that changes colors according to the acidity of the

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] New: Sugar Labs finances status page

2011-04-22 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 08:45:05PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 21 2011, Walter Bender wrote: Log's at http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2011-04-21#i_2660201 The links are in the wiki now

Re: [IAEP] New activity from OLPC France

2011-04-22 Thread Koke Contreras
Hi Stefanie: In Peru and prehistoric organic foods are little known, even in our country. Knowing the value of these foods is valuable to a society dominated transgenic crops. Japanese mascot'm remembering those that fed them. That's the idea of avatar . A wonderful project for our children to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The oversight board is considering a motion to upgrade the license of Sugar from GPLv2 or later to GPLv3 or later. Before proceeding to a vote, we'd like to request feedback from the community. Interesting. (Bad

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Authors can express their intentions through a license. If you didn't want your code to be redistributed under a later versions of the GPL, then why didn't you distribute as GPLv2-only? On a personal note here...

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:  -  What's the upside?  - At what point do we say hey, this has scant upside, and negative controversy around it, let's spend our time in productive things instead? This is the crux of my objection as well. I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 18:47 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Q: Do we need to ask the permission of all copyright holders? A: No, we'll

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:45 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: We're not retroactively re-licensing existing code. Really? By moving to GPLv3 your removing the ability to use GPLv2 which is by definition a re-license of the code. Not really, this is a common misconception: redistributing code

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:45 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:  We're not retroactively re-licensing existing code. Really? By moving to GPLv3 your removing the ability to use GPLv2 which is by definition a re-license

Re: [IAEP] New Finance Request: Airfare to EduJAM for Sebastian Silva

2011-04-22 Thread David Van Assche
wow... one day I'll raise the money to go to said event wish you all the best and please keep us updated On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nzwrote: On 22 April 2011 16:41, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: As per the new

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:54 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: Yes, you seem to be confused Bernie.  You can redistribute under a license however you like, usually without explicitly stating it.  But if you alter the source files or replace COPYING, you are *changing the license*.

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] New Finance Request: Airfare to EduJAM for Sebastian Silva

2011-04-22 Thread Mel Chua
For the olpc San Francisco bay community summit last year Adam Holt setup a way for people to make donations to cover DSD's flights; I think Adam used Paypal. Can we do something similar to help get Sebastian to EduJAM? I see no reason why not - trying to figure out how this

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:54 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: Yes, you seem to be confused Bernie. You can redistribute under a license however you like, usually without explicitly stating it.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Disclaimer: given where I work now, advocating in favor of the GPL will probably makes me look partisan, but long-time friends like you should known that these have been my personal opinions for a long time. On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 10:50 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:00

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Bernie, On Fri, Apr 22 2011, Bernie Innocenti wrote: You've expressed some valid concerns and I believe I've responded satisfactorily to all of them. If not, I'm glad to hear a counter-argument from you. I think you've repeatedly ignored Scott's claim that you can't modify COPYING or the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Fri, Apr 22 2011, Chris Ball wrote: I think you've repeatedly ignored Scott's claim that you can't modify COPYING or the source files because that would be *changing* the license, rather than taking advantage of GPLv3 redistribution rights. Can you ask Brett or someone at the FSF what

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread Sebastian Silva
Even though I haven't spoken with Bernie about his rationale for proposing the upgrade of the license I would like to explain why I strongly feel that as a member of the SLOBs board and as a representative of the community I have the duty to back the proposal. You see GPL is not only a