Re: [IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Crossland
>> Hi Dave, >> >> I'm no longer afk. I have collated the results into the attached >> spreedsheet. >> >> Previously, I also wrote up an analysis of the results. It is also >> attached. >> >> Thanks, >> Sam >> >> On Fri, Apr 22,

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 April 2016 at 10:48, Dave Crossland wrote: > Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 > in Boston? :) > Eli Heuer (the other Font Editor GSOC Mentor) will join me on the trip up from NYC to Boston that weekend :) I just booked the Bolt Bus, $127.

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 May 2016 at 09:37, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Why does the vision statement say "but not phones"? I run Sugarizer on my > iPhone and Ed's Android phone. There are some formatting issues but they > are easily overcome. In the real world of developing countries, children > are probably more likely

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-05 Thread Dave Crossland
vote... Send an email to > this thread. > > Caryl > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 3, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > On 3 May 2016 at 09:37, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > >> Why does the vision statement say "but not phones"? I run Sugariz

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 6 May 2016 at 10:35, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I am hoping all the differences have been ironed out and that my motions > receive a majority vote. I just checked https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX-Bv675BpA1KmcEcRcX4PRCOUEX0ICRUkOc/edit and it still has a lot of my suggestions to b

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-06 Thread Dave Crossland
ediately for > missing one or both dutires twice, even if separated by 2 years? If so, we > need to spell it out. If conversely we want to fire the Financial Manager > immediately, for failing to fulfill 1 duty or the other, then we should say > that more explicitly. > > > >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 May 2016 at 11:47, Chris Leonard wrote: > > I'm looking for an executed copy of the current SugarLabs-SFC FSA to > > confirm, unfortunately the wiki version looks at variance with the > > template, but as a wiki page, it has no "official" status. > > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_L

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Do you think having the motion as it is with $Y = 0 is ok? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 7 May 2016 at 16:09, Lionel Laské wrote: > > 2016-05-07 22:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Crossland : > >> Do you think having the motion as it is with $Y = 0 is ok? >> > > Yep. > Okay good :) Caryl, is your intention for the motion to be drafted with $X and $Y undefine

Re: [IAEP] [GSOC] Project: Journal Rethink discussion

2016-05-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 May 2016 at 06:14, wrote: > I think that the idea of providing a way of sorting learning into > "mini-journals" is very helpful. Users can make a mini-journal for a unit > of work in school, an assignment/project or a group activity that a teacher > is running. > Where is the best explanat

Re: [IAEP] [GSOC] Project: Journal Rethink discussion

2016-05-08 Thread Dave Crossland
So this is more like tagging blog posts than a folders-filesystem> ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-05-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! The wiki gardening weekend is coming up in a few days! Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 in Boston? :) Iain, how is your slideshow coming along? :) For hosting Eli and I, I booked us a bunk each in the Boston Hotelling International hotel: https://ww

[IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam (and all) I remember that you asked me to do something after each board meeting, but I can't find the thread easily right now listing the things to do do you remember or can you tell me the thread? :) One of the thing was updating the minutes on the wiki, but I see Walter already kind

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt wrote: > posting recent motions that have passed here: (receiving 4 affirmative > votes, from SL Board members) > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions > Ah yes, in addition to posting the minutes/log, I think that was it. The other stuf

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt wrote: > Likewise posting SFConservancy's travel/expense/reimbursement policies > (etc) publicly would be wonderful if someone can dig up copy, and post it > here: > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance#For_funding_travel > They are here, https://gitorious.o

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 May 2016 at 10:12, Walter Bender wrote: > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Hi >> >> On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt wrote: >> >>> posting recent motions that have passed here: (receiving 4 affirmative &

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting summary (one of many)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 May 2016 at 17:11, Walter Bender wrote: > I will send a separate email for each motion discussed so that we can > vote by email. > I can only see 3 email threads, [IAEP] [SLOB] Finance Manager Motions [IAEP] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion [IAEP] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion Where the

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt wrote: > On May 10, 2016 12:06 AM, "Dave Crossland" wrote: > > > > Hi Adam (and all) > > > > I remember that you asked me to do something after each board meeting, > but I can't find the thread easily ri

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting summary (one of many)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Walter! Thanks for clarifying, that all makes good sense :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 12:50, Laura Vargas wrote: > You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were > cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: > > > > Total Income 10% of Total Income > > > > 2015 $9.028,56 $902,86 > 2014 $49.622,18 $4.962,22 > 2013 $49.229,19 $4.922,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 13:03, Laura Vargas wrote: > Sorry I missed to explain this. By the date of the agreement (2012), the > Project agreed that, on the Effective Date, $1,887.44 (10% of the existing > Project Fund on the Effective Date), will be donated to Conservancy’s > general fund additional t

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 13:53, Adam Holt wrote: > Personally I'd be in favor of splitting $500 GSoC payments between > organization and mentors-in-need ($250 each) particularly those mentors in > low-income countries (of those most demonstrably catalyzed by a $250 > Honorarium) if such a consensus late

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: > there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among > activities/teams/projects etc. I think its essential that this be spent in ways that led directly to further income, to grow the project. _

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 15:35, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2016-05-12 2:08 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > >> >> On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >>> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among >>> activities/teams/projects

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Is a membership fee for volunteers even something that any other Free > Software orgs do? GNOME doesn't seem to. > Its very common for clubs/nonprofits to do this. FSF, Conservancy, TUG, UKTUG run membership programs, and I also pay member dues to

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [SLOB] GPLv3 motion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 09:19, Walter Bender wrote: > the motion has passed. Thanks Walter! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 12 May 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > As Adam has pointed out, this motion has failed to pass. It seems that > there is some support of the idea of offering at least a portion of the > GSoC stipend to mentors who need/request the funds, but the form of the > current motion, putting

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Dues are a bad idea! > Sorry folks > Please could you explain why you think this? -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.s

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 11:09, Sean DALY wrote: > Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". > Well, there's now a paid Translatoins Manager ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 12 May 2016 at 11:33, Chris Leonard wrote: > I would note that, as requested, Edgar provided a brief write-up of > the event afterwards (in Spanish), which I have > Google-assisted-translated and will be posting (in both Spanish and > English) on the blog that I'm setting up for reporting

Re: [IAEP] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi 1. A section of the doc is available live here, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List 2. That doc shows 279 members I've requested access to the doc :) Thanks Samson! Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop pr

Re: [IAEP] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam On 12 May 2016 at 15:33, Adam Holt wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> 1. A section of the doc is available live here, >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List >> >> 2. That doc sho

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On May 14, 2016 10:26 PM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > what is the harm in keeping them on the list? (Our membership list has never been well-correlated with the active contributors in any case.) The harm is two fold. Initially that the list says it is a list of active contributors, so having it no

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] GPLv3 motion

2016-05-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 May 2016 at 21:12, Walter Bender wrote: > 1 member choosing not to vote). Isn't that de facto abstaining? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-14 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 14 May 2016 at 23:13, Walter Bender wrote: > > > On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> >> On May 14, 2016 10:26 PM, "Walter Bender" >> wrote: >> > >> > what is the harm in keeping them on the list? (Our

[IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi https://education.github.com/pack Nice deal -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Laura I hear you, but this is a wiki, it is meant to be edited and re-edited towards being up to date. I am not deleting anything, but marking pages that I think are totally obsolete as such, and marking pages that somewhat dated and can be refreshed also. In this particular case, I read in h

Re: [IAEP] SoaS Review/Article

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 May 2016 at 12:56, Chris Leonard wrote: > Peter, Thanks for the update on SOAS status in F24. I am much > comforted knowing that Sugar labs has a champion so close to the heart > of the process. > This is great!!! :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Educatio

Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 May 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender wrote: > Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging > they require? > (Please could you re-express this, I didn't understand what you mean :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 May 2016 at 17:33, Sebastian Silva wrote: > I still think affirmative action to remain / become a member should be > required. > $12 sounds good to me ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://l

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 May 2016 at 17:30, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I hope we can make it better for 2017. I agree with you about there being these 2 things that are needed for an election: 1. A list of active members There are some 'ambient' lists of members - eg, the wiki's usernames list, the total of all ema

Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 May 2016 at 17:27, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > On 15 May 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender wrote: > >> > >> Seems like a good idea for Sugar Labs!!! Wonder what sort of packaging > >> th

Re: [IAEP] Github Student Developer Pack

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 May 2016 at 20:16, Walter Bender wrote: > > "If your company produces developer tools and wants to be included in the > pack..." > > What do we offer from Sugar Labs? Hmm; Sugar has no developer tools, from what I have seen so far; eg, you write TurtleBlocksJS in Emacs and Chromium Develo

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 15 May 2016 at 13:29, Laura Vargas wrote: > Sugar Network is up the air, and it has more than 35.000 users. You can > find the stats here> http://network.sugarlabs.org/stats-viewer/ > WOW!!! That stats page is AMAZING!! :D But having looked at the SN wiki pages in more detail, I am stil

[IAEP] [JOB] Generalist "Problem Solver" position opened at Conservancy

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi http://sfconservancy.org/news/2016/apr/26/non-profit-problem-solver/ A 100% remote work job driving forwards the software freedom movement that includes travel and lots of great challenges :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (no

[IAEP] Sugar 0.106 Release Video sources?

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! WOW! I just came across https://youtu.be/PXFaXAGIw04 :D Where are the source files for this? :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 10 May 2016 at 03:31, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > > Iain, how is your slideshow coming along? :) > > The slideshows are good to go! I managed to eliminate the display > problems in Browse and made a pull request > > https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/pull/42 The slides can be pr

Re: [IAEP] Sugar 0.106 Release Video sources?

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 May 2016 at 18:56, Sam P. wrote: > It was just a small project made with kdenlive... > Cool! I couldn't find one for 0.108... would be great to organize one for the upcoming 0.110 :) > What are the source files you desire? > Well, all of them :) How big are they? :)

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 16 May 2016 at 19:40, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > In general, getting information about children using a product targeted at > them is a bit of a legal minefield. > Fortunately I'm not interested in information about children :) > There are countries which don't allow anything about youn

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 16 May 2016 at 23:20, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> On 16 May 2016 at 19:40, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: >> >>> In general, getting information about children using a produc

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 May 2016 at 02:16, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Here are the HHS requirements for any study done with children in the > United States. I understand these as useful guidelines but not requirements for us because we are not funded by the US Federal Government, right? _

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 May 2016 at 10:17, Chris Leonard wrote: > Source of funding has nothing to do with the applicability of laws and > regulations on human subjects protection in research. > Please explain this. Laws are one thing, regulations are another; laws apply to everyone in a jurisdiction, regulation

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Thanks for the lengthy explanation :) I think I understand your position better now :) On 17 May 2016 at 12:14, Chris Leonard wrote: > > any form of human subjects research Is https://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/statistics/ "human subjects research"? > One should never read the CFR an

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 May 2016 at 00:01, Dave Crossland wrote: > Both these seem to be related to _children’s personal information_; I > don't think anyone here is interested in that. > https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-coppa-frequently-asked-questions is good,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sam On 17 May 2016 at 13:55, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > I think there may be a difference between research studies and privacy law > related to collecting general user statistics. > I assert there is :) > This might be untested though, and for Sugar, both studies on how children > use it as

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 May 2016 at 13:55, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > Leah at OLPC might be able to tell you some things. I've emailed her :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 17 May 2016 at 14:10, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the lengthy explanation :) I think I understand your position > > better now :) > > > > On 17 May 2016 at 12

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 May 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote: > Dave - legal matters are referred to the SFC. We did indeed work with them > in the past when we registered our trademark, and consulted with them > concerning an infringement case which was settled amicably. > Where can I read more about this infringe

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 17 May 2016 at 18:02, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On 17 May 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote: >> >>> Dave - legal matters are referred to the SFC. We did indeed work with >>> them in the pas

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 17 May 2016 at 17:54, Laura Vargas wrote: > Hi! > > 2016-05-15 22:53 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland : > >> >> Hi! >> >> On 15 May 2016 at 13:29, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >>> Sugar Network is up the air, and it has more than

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 10:52, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 12 May 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > >> As Adam has pointed out, this motion has failed to pass. It seems that >> there is some support of the idea of offering at least a portion of the >> GSoC stipend to ment

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

2016-05-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 May 2016 at 17:00, Dave Crossland wrote: > What Sugar Labs® has been doing for many years at > https://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/statistics/ is suitable for > understanding this. > > What Sugar Labs® has been doing for, I guess, a year or so, at > http://network.s

[IAEP] Deployments seeking volunteers?

2016-05-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi In https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vacancies I see a link to http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg10937.html Is this deployment still active? :) Are any other deployments seeking volunteers in 2016? -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-05-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 May 2016 at 10:05, Walter Bender wrote: > for some reason or other, the SFC seems to think that every outlay > requires explicit approval from the entire board FWIW I think this is reasonable, since the board have shared and equal financial responsibility for the Conservancy account.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-05-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 May 2016 at 11:53, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> FWIW I think this is reasonable, since the board have shared and equal >> financial responsibility for the Conservancy account. > > > In my view it'

Re: [IAEP] 2 Motions Ready (or Not) [Sur] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-05-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 May 2016 at 13:07, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Dave Crossland has proposed 2 additional motions that are linked at the > bottom of the first 2 motions. They are still in the editing stage as far > as I can see. > I am waiting for Adam to draft what he wanted

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 08:02, Walter Bender wrote: > I don't know how to make these decisions sticky vis-a-vis the reporting > requirements of the Conservancy. They seem to want a full oversight board > vote on every expenditure. Adam, as the nominated single point of contact between Conservancy and

Re: [IAEP] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 03:18, Tony Anderson wrote: > Most of the rest is implicit I think there is no hard at all in making what is implicit explicit; to leave things implicit simplifies the text, but complicates the execution. ___ IAEP -- It's An Educatio

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 04:01, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1] > livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon > so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future > AWESOME work Tom!! :D

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] interesting summary on FOSS project management

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I suppose "public software" ought to have some kind of license for the general public where could we find such a thing?? lol On 19 May 2016 at 08:17, Walter Bender wrote: > In light of our recent discussions about migrating more fully to the > github infrastructure, I thought community m

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tony On 19 May 2016 at 08:40, Tony Anderson wrote: > Sorry about my confusing message with the digest title. > Would you consider changing your list preference from digest to seperate-emails? :) Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 19 May 2016 at 09:02, Tony Anderson wrote: > It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each day. > The digest now doesn't really help as much because almost all emails are > sent to three or more lists. > I agree, there are a lot of lists for a (nowadays) small communi

[IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/scratch-google-next-generation-of-programming-blocks-for-kids-5f377ec9ff0 Interesting evolution of the blocks programming approach :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 11:21, Tony Anderson wrote: > I am not sure of my arithmetic. Six mentors at $500 is $3000, so 10% is > $300 and 5% is $150. Leaving $2550 or $255 per mentor. > Works for me. I updated the motion! :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Proj

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Caryl! On 12 May 2016 at 11:08, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > >> Dues are a bad idea! >> Sorry folks >> > > Please could you explain why you think this? > I'm keen to

[IAEP] Trip Advisor Agreement?

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas < la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among > activities/teams/projects etc. Hmm. I think the majori

[IAEP] What will we do this year?

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson < sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The SLOBs already seem to have some capital ... the SLOBS should do > something before seeking to raise additional

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 16:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > For those of us interested in statistics, I recommend to check out the > amazing job they did with this -clear to understand- dashboard: > > https://scratch.mit.edu/statistics/ > > A lot to learn, > Thanks for pointing this out! The design of http:

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 19:23, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > I'm curious, what links do we have with the Scratch community? We have > > superhero Bert here from the Squeak community :D > > > > There ar

[IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi If we want to grow Sugar's userbase 10x, I think Sugar must run not only on GNU but also Windows and Mac OS X. 1. Rewriting everything in JavaScript for Sugarizer 2. Implementing "Sugar As A Service" with GTK3-Broadway, https://SandStorm.io and https://os.js.org 3. Packaging Sugar to run on

Re: [IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 20 May 2016 at 00:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > What do you think? > Debian has 1,000s of active contributors. From what I can see, we have a couple dozen, tops, so I kindly offer that this kind of structuring is wasted effort. Here are the concrete actions that you listed, and how SL is get

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 00:16, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in a > Chromebook's web browser or as an installed app. > I think Sugar would be installed as a dualboot on Chromebooks. ___ IAEP -

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 09:05, Walter Bender wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> >> On 20 May 2016 at 00:16, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: >> >>> If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in >>> a Chrom

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 09:56, Sebastian Silva wrote: > While I have close-to-zero motivation to have activities run on Windows Please explain why you feel this way. I am excited about the possibility of running Sugar activities on Windows and Mac OS X. ___

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 11:23, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Do you think Sugar's destiny is to become an app within another operating >> system? > > > > I would rephrase this by quoting Scott Ananian: >

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming" (Dave Crossland)

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Sam, I encourage you to find answers to that question :) Lionel, I don't mean to discourage or disparage your work. I wish to explore all the options for the future of the Sugar python codebase. I would not be surprised if in 5 years Sugar python has been completely abandoned and there is only Sug

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 May 2016 at 02:18, Sebastian Silva wrote: > There are huge interests invested in trying to sell Windows (and Android) > to our Latin American public education systems and us supporting it would > be counterproductive in my humble opinion How do you propose to grow sugar usage 10x? ___

Re: [IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 21 May 2016 at 02:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > we should open debate to all community members Other than discussion on this list, what does that look like? :) Cheers dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.su

Re: [IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! *Adam, please see my request below :)* On 21 May 2016 at 02:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > Hi! > > 2016-05-20 20:51 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > >> Hi >> >> On 20 May 2016 at 00:38, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >>> What do you think? >>> >&

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 21 May 2016 at 13:14, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 21/05/16 a las 10:24, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > On 21 May 2016 at 02:18, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > >> There are huge interests invested in trying to sell Windows (and Android) >> to our Latin America

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 21 May 2016 at 19:18, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > What libre hardware do Latin American educational systems have access to now > that the OLPC-XO product stream is drying up? I'm curious why you think any XO was libre hardware? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware says, The development of

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 21 May 2016 at 20:00, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-05-22 01:25:07) > > I have't seen anything about XOs that would meet > > http://www.oshwa.org/definition but I'll be very happy to see them :) > > No doubt what you will be happy

Re: [IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 21 May 2016 at 16:21, Adam Holt wrote: > while SL is a Conservancy project, it must use a ledger-cli compatible >> system. >> >> It is a text file based system (eg >> http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Example-Journal-File) and >> Adam has access to the Sugar Labs text file. This f

Re: [IAEP] 2 Motions Ready (or Not) [Sur] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-05-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 May 2016 at 13:55, Dave Crossland wrote: > I am waiting for Adam to draft what he wanted to see there :) > I found something on the Finance wiki page so dropped that in and edited a little bit, so I think these motions are ready to roll once Caryl's mot

Re: [IAEP] (no subject)

2016-05-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 May 2016 at 03:36, wrote: > Seems you missed the emphasis on one distribtion over the other. > I am still missing understanding of this :) You and Seb were not doing the packaging for Fedora, right? Members of the Fedora community do that, right? So how would you working to do the Debia

Re: [IAEP] (no subject)

2016-05-22 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I'm sorry, I still don't understand :) On 22 May 2016 at 10:20, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Focusing on Debian instead is my proposal. Please could you explain in more detail what this means? Are you suggesting that Peter Robinson stop packaging for Fedora? (I don't think so.) Cheers Dave

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 09:50, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 20/05/16 a las 07:56, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > I think Sugar would be installed as a dualboot on Chromebooks. > My main machine was a chromebok for a couple of years until a > thunderstorm took its life. It was wonderfu

Re: [IAEP] [Off Topic] devastation in the Peruvian rainforest

2016-05-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 May 2016 at 15:33, Laura Vargas wrote: > I believe smart use of free-open technology can help stop this tragedy I hope so too! Thanks for posting this news, I wasn't aware of it... ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAE

[IAEP] Motion: GSOC Mentor funds

2016-05-22 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to ap

[IAEP] Motion: Solicit Membership Donations + Public Statements

2016-05-22 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Motion: To request a membership donation from each currently active Sugar Labs Member to be allocated to the General Fund for the calendar year of 2016, and a public statement about how they use Sugar and why they are involved in Sugar Labs to post on the website; there is no penalty for not pa

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