Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
and so posts there are rejected. On the other hand, my normal email cannot deliver messages to gmail accounts. Sigh. Tony On 05/19/2016 02:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: Hi Tony On 19 May 2016 at 08:40, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: So

[IAEP] Fwd: Re: [SLOBS] Motion: Solicit Membership Donations + Public Statements

2016-05-23 Thread Tony Anderson
I agree completely. However, if the donations are requested, I think we should suggest 'typical' amounts. This is a world-wide organization so we need to be careful about defining 'self-identifying as low-income'. So I would amend the motion to Motion: To request donations from Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Re: [SLOBS] Motion: Solicit Membership Donations + Public Statements

2016-05-24 Thread Tony Anderson
Sugar and SugarLabs. But, dues… no thanks! Caryl From: d...@lab6.com Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:00:14 -0400 To: tony_ander...@usa.net CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Re: [SLOBS] Motion: Solicit Membership Donations + Public Statements Hi! On 23 May 2

Re: [IAEP] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
I think motion A could be simplified: The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board and may be either anon-voting officer or one of the current Oversight Board members. The Finance Manager will serve at the will of the Board and may be removed and

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 98, Issue 61

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
I tried this several years ago but decided that it was not usable because it is dependent on internet access. Is that still the case? Tony On 05/19/2016 07:40 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Send IAEP mailing list submissions to iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org To subscribe or

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 98, Issue 39

2016-05-16 Thread Tony Anderson
Seems cloud based, not useful in many deployments. Tony On 05/15/2016 05:10 PM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Send IAEP mailing list submissions to iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 98, Issue 52

2016-05-18 Thread Tony Anderson
The information collected at first boot is not relevant to any personal research. At deployments I am familiar with, the first boot is done at installation time to check the install and perform configuration. At this time, the laptop has not been assigned to a user. For deployments I work with,

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 52

2016-04-19 Thread Tony Anderson
is marvelously funded. Tony On 04/20/2016 08:26 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 19 April 2016 at 18:50, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/. VERY GOOD. Their platf

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 52

2016-04-19 Thread Tony Anderson
The Khan Academy Lite site seems to be similar in purpose to that of SugarLabs. It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/. In this context, perhaps, the XO is one of the supported platforms. The site could give download and install instructions for major

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Tony Anderson
At the suggestion of several participants in this thread, I have created a 'feature-like' description of a proposed 'Lion activity' at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lion_Activity. There seems to a concensus that this is the best way to proceed on this discussion. Tony On 04/21/2016 01:54 AM,

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Tony Anderson
The problem is ASLO, our primary interface and support for our user community. If we are going the github route, we need to set up a means for updated versions of Activities to be made into bundles and installed on the ASLO repository. Presumably documentation (but no code) would be required

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave The obvious question is why? What functionality do we add for our users by rewriting everything in Python 3? Tony On 07/14/2016 06:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On Jul 14, 2016 12:26 PM, "Tony Anderson" <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Tony Anderson
ASLO, which is our most used service to our user-base, is back online, but is not operational. Yesterday, it reported a long list of error messages. Apparently, it is another victim to 'deprecation'. Possibly the most important feature of Sugar today is that it is based on Python 2.7 which is

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-15 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave A lot of questions. I believe Sebastian Silva would be your best source. Tony On 07/15/2016 02:37 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: Hi! On 15 July 2016 at 00:14, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > I am proposing a simple static

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-15 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Dave This proposal needs some details. ASLO supported many functions including the developer hub, authentication, and so on. A simple static site that is functionally equivalent is ambiguous. Aleksey's proposal has been implemented and is on-line (sugar network). Is this what you are

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-27 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave If it is useful. Why do you care for specific emails for specific votes? Do you have any specific motions where there is concern about whether it passed? Tony On 06/27/2016 02:42 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: Hi Tony On 21 June 2016 at 23:00, Dave Crossland wrote:

[IAEP] Oversight Board Meeting

2016-06-27 Thread Tony Anderson
Based on the level of discussion in the email lists, there is apparently no longer any interest in having a Financial Manager or a Vision statement as topics for Friday's meeting. Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Tony's comments on localization

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I have great difficulty understanding why we don't take advantage of that position to enlist our users worldwide to assist by supplying their unique knowledge of their own language. Tony On 07/10/2016 04:24 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: Some of us believe Free Software and Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
l 10/07/16 a las 07:04, Tony Anderson escribió: Hi, All I don't understand why this has to be so difficult. If you have ever used an MS Office or Libre Office application, you know that you have the option to save and the option to save as. This means that you can 'save', overwriting the docum

Re: [IAEP] Save As

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
one. I am a user of Sugar and support its use at a number of sites. I would like Sugar to provide certain features which I think will make it more useful. Tony On 07/10/2016 06:06 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 10:58, Tony Anderson escribió: Hi, In this private email, I

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Tony On 07/10/2016 07:32 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 10 July 2016 at 13:26, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: Where is our list regarding the educational go

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I use private communication when I feel it is appropriate. There is no way for me to know when you or Sam place comments on a PR, so that communication might as well be private. In the context of GSOC, it might have been appropriate to mention this in a public or private email

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Enough. Deciding to make actions of the Oversight Board public by posting them on another list is not a decision on the purpose of the SLOBs list. Tony On 07/10/2016 08:21 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 13:17, Tony Anderson escribió: Who made that decision? Where

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Who made that decision? Where is it recorded? Is it a part of our bylaws? How are we supposed to know that? Tony On 07/10/2016 07:45 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 12:44, Tony Anderson escribió: Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Actually

Re: [IAEP] Save As

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
. You seem to have a lot of time to quibble over procedural issues. Tony On 07/10/2016 07:48 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 12:42, Tony Anderson escribió: I don't know how to respond. You are still addressing procedural issues. Is there some reason you want to ask questions on a PR

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Where is our list regarding the educational goals of Sugar? Tony On 07/10/2016 06:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On Jul 10, 2016 11:54 AM, "Tony Anderson" <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: > > However, since the various flaps co

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian Then, the word 'change' might be more appropriate. Note: I am not proposing it be changed in its current usage, but only in as the default text in place of the current blank text. Tony On 07/10/2016 05:36 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 10:34, Tony Anderson

Re: [IAEP] [UKids] "Physics with XO" by Guzmán Trinidad now available in English

2016-07-04 Thread Tony Anderson
oud to have been able to help to disseminate Guzmán's work for use in Rwanda, Philippines and other places where English is spoken. The original book was written and published in Uruguay in 2011. This translation was made possible thanks to the kind sponsorship of Tony Anderson.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Meeting reminder

2016-08-05 Thread Tony Anderson
AFAIK there are no proposed motions to be considered at this meeting. This should leave ample time for a financial report and a report from the Translations Community Manager - specifically providing an update on the status of the Yoruba project. Last meeting we gave ourselves the task to

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 101, Issue 6

2016-08-06 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave Clearly we should be looking for people who are supporting or sponsoring XO deployments with Sugar. You also did not mention contributors to Sugar activities. What about contributors to support-gang (albeit an olpc list)? What about developers and users of xsce (school server)? Tony

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 101, Issue 9

2016-08-08 Thread Tony Anderson
+1 The mailing list seems like a good idea. involving the Board appears to be in order. I think the August meeting was a vacation for the members since no real Board business was discussed; however, I would assume that the membership of the Election and Membership Committee would be a proper

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 115

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
Dave Crossland) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:47:55 -0400 From: Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> To: Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> Cc: IAEP SugarLabs <iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>, sugar-devel <sugar-de.

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 115

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
the membership. I really think your persistence in accusing the Board of conspiracy is out of line. Tony On 06/30/2016 06:33 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 30 June 2016 at 12:07, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: I posted no motion on June 4. ... Making a comment is not a motio

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
are going to abstain, then please do me the courtesy of telling me. regards. -walter On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:11 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: Agreed. Tony Unfortunately my reply went only to the SLOBs list (a feature of th

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 115

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Dave, I am new to the Board, but in most organizations they are specified in the bylaws (which I must confess I have never seen). In the absence, most organizations use Robert's Rules of Order. Tony On 06/30/2016 06:40 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 30 June 2016 at 12:07, Tony Anderson

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
Adam - sorry, caught again by the 'reply list' button. Tony On 06/30/2016 07:10 PM, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Dave Your motion has never been presented to the Board. I have no specific knowledge that all members oppose it. Your record of decisions includes many items that have never become

[IAEP] Voting on GPLv3 motion

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave This is what I have been able to find regarding the GPLv3 motion. _At today's Sugar Labs oversight board meeting [1], we discussed the motion submitted by Sebastian Silva to finalize the transition from GPLv2 to GPLv3 for the Sugar core libraries (Sugar Activity developers are still

[IAEP] Yoruba I18n

2016-06-30 Thread Tony Anderson
board, please reply to this email solicitation for a vote on the following motion. [text of the motion follows - this email from Walter was posted on IAEP] Approve. Tony Anderson Approve. Sameer Disagree. I don't see any evidence how Yoruba localization could increase the size

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave You need to distinguish between encouraging members to propose actions to be taken by the Board and a motion made at a Board meeting by a member of the Board, seconded and put to a vote of the Board members. Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson
Dave We got it. In the future, we will take greater care to cross-post votes by email (hopefully rare since the meeting itself is public). Tony On 07/01/2016 12:57 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 1 July 2016 at 05:45, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: You need to disti

Re: [IAEP] Voting on GPLv3 motion

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sam This was in response to Dave Crossland's concern that the Board is acting in secret. The motion passed with 6 votes in favor and one abstention. Tony On 07/01/2016 11:55 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrot

[IAEP] Renewal of domain name

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson
According to Walter (email of May 10 posted to SLOBs, IAEP, and Sugar-devel). Motion to pay for laboratoriosazucar.org domain Did not think we needed a motion since it was already a done deal. We should talk with Bernie about this over the weekend: how

[IAEP] July Meeting of the Board

2016-07-02 Thread Tony Anderson
I agree that the July meeting was much more effective. Motions were made, seconded, discussed and voted yea-nay in an orderly way. I hope this allays Dave Crossland and other member's mistrust of the Board. On 1 July 2016 at 07:06, Tony Anderson<tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote:

Re: [IAEP] July Meeting of the Board

2016-07-02 Thread Tony Anderson
Perhaps you need to be more careful in your comments. 'I have heard this before' sounds like distrust. Tony On 07/02/2016 07:09 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 2 July 2016 at 05:00, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: I hope this

[IAEP] Lion activity version 2

2016-07-03 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Chris i was able to complete the functionality of the Lion.activity (version 2 in ASLO). However, since I am not capable of providing translations for any language but English, testing has been limited. I was able to 'translate' the Chat activity to Urdu (using English text for the

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 15

2017-02-17 Thread Tony Anderson
at 12:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg <b...@freudenbergs.de<mailto:b...@freudenbergs.de>> wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:35 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: This is what I hoped Sugarlabs would do: https://opensource.com/article/17/1/tr

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 107, Issue 29

2017-02-19 Thread Tony Anderson
bojt638qx...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: Consider an potential adopter who wants to try out Sugar. As Caryl knows from Scale, an adopter wants to know: 1 - What are the capa

[IAEP] pixel

2017-02-14 Thread Tony Anderson
This is what I hoped Sugarlabs would do: https://opensource.com/article/17/1/try-raspberry-pis-pixel-os-your-pc Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-27 Thread Tony Anderson
For what it's worth, Sugar 0.110 (OLPC OS 13.2.8) has been installed on hundreds of XO laptops, all models in Rwanda. The codebase is reaching these classrooms. I am not sure what you mean by the js codebase, but if you mean the sugar web activities. Yes they are available for optional

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-28 Thread Tony Anderson
, 2017 11:34 PM, "Tony Anderson" <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: For what it's worth, Sugar 0.110 (OLPC OS 13.2.8) has been installed on hundreds of XO laptops, all models in Rwanda. The codebase is reaching these classrooms.

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-03-02 Thread Tony Anderson
On 03/02/2017 02:51 PM, Laura Vargas wrote: As for the 2017 Budget, Sugar Labs needs doable specific proposals for funding and investing as a healthy financial planning should consider a minimum of 5 years ahead. The real need is not for financial planning, but for planning. A real five-year

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-03-01 Thread Tony Anderson
Sorry Laura The money is better kept in the bank until Sugar Labs has an objective and understands what kind of resources it needs. It is good that Sugar Labs is considering a budget for this year (a gross dereliction last year). However, an organization makes a budget to fund its planned

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-03-01 Thread Tony Anderson
; and if the latter, what mix is appropriate in 2017 and 2018? On 1 March 2017 at 05:26, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: All models are obviously xo-1, xo-1.5, xo-1.75 and xo-4. Sugarizer is not relevant since the XOs deploy Sugar. T

Re: [IAEP] Another school with XO laptops.

2016-09-29 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Samson Great work! Tony On 09/29/2016 12:13 PM, Samson Goddy wrote: Hello, Last time, I was discussing about laptops in Nigeria. I made contact with a school teacher in Bayelsa, Nigeria. According to her, the school still use the xo laptops. So that makes two schools in the Niger

Re: [IAEP] Server-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5

2016-08-24 Thread Tony Anderson
Sugar Labs develops and supports Sugar. The goal of Sugar is to improve the educational experience of its school age users. For the vast majority of Sugar users who have limited or no access to the internet, the school server is a vital and integral element of the improved experience. I

[IAEP] Fwd: Re: Server-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5

2016-08-24 Thread Tony Anderson
This thread somehow got separated from iaep and Sugar_dev. Sorry. Tony Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Server-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:28:41 +0200 From: Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> To: server-de...@lists.laptop.org

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Debian complaints

2016-12-17 Thread Tony Anderson
this discussion to include those who might be able to help us do that work. -walter On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: Hi, Walter We again seem to have a problem in communication. My concern is

[IAEP] Future of Sugar Labs

2016-11-30 Thread Tony Anderson
The December meetings is coming soon. At the beginning of the year, Lionel Laske proposed that we consider a vision for the future of Sugar Labs. Like a rock dropped in the pond, there was considerable discussion initially which has died away to invisibility. I would propose that Sugar Labs

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

2016-12-01 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, All I certainly appreciate the attention my email has received. However, I am disappointed that the responses do not reflect my main concern. I beleive Sugar and Sugar Labs will fade away if it continues to be perceived as the software that comes on an XO. I believe Sugar Labs and Sugar

[IAEP] Fwd: Re: [Sugar-devel] 2017 Goals for Sugar Labs%

2017-04-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Sorry, this didn't get copied to IAEP as I intended but only webt to Sugar-Devel Tony Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 2017 Goals for Sugar Labs% Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:52:04 +0800 From: Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> To: su

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2017 Goals for Sugar Labs

2017-04-10 Thread Tony Anderson
é; Adam Holt; igna...@sugarlabs.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; Tony Anderson; George Hunt; José Miguel García; SLOBs; iaep; sugar-devel; Dave Crossland *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2017 Goals for Sugar Labs Hi Caryl and all, Last year we - as a community - made the exercise to document a l

Re: [IAEP] [ASLO] Testing of Activities

2017-04-19 Thread Tony Anderson
I posted issues for each indicating the results of the tests. Tony On 04/19/2017 08:50 PM, Walter Bender wrote: Do you have the details re the broken activities? regards. -walter On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net&g

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Testing of Activities

2017-04-19 Thread Tony Anderson
(and ensuring that the correct repo path is in the activity.info <http://activity.info> bundle) and making the new bundles. -walter On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com <mailto:cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:30

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 109, Issue 52

2017-04-23 Thread Tony Anderson
Great find. Thanks, Tony On 04/23/2017 11:28 PM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Send IAEP mailing list submissions to iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep or, via email, send a

[IAEP] Installing Sugar on standard PCs

2017-03-06 Thread Tony Anderson
I have tried to install Sugar on standard PCs (specifically a BGH Positivo from Rwanda). This computer has UEFI with secure boot enabled. Ubuntu I was able to install Ubuntu 16.04 from a usb stick in a 100GB partition. From this I was able to install Sugar with sudo apt-get install

[IAEP] Testing of Activities

2017-04-18 Thread Tony Anderson
I spent the last two plus days testing the 137 activities with repositories in github/sugarlabs. Of these, 103 work on Ubuntu 16.04 sucrose. This leaves 34 which do not work. The biggest problem is version control. Most of these activities were placed in github during GCI early in 2016. The

Re: [IAEP] Motion To Approve 2017 Sugar Labs Mission Statement

2017-04-21 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Caryl In the January 2017 meeting, the SLOBS approved the following motion: motion: "Sugar is a learning platform based on the constructionist educational principles of Jean Piaget, Seymour Papert, Cynthia Solomon, and Alan Kay. Sugar Labs is responsible to develop, distribute, and

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] motion for a new mission statement

2017-04-24 Thread Tony Anderson
to install on their own computer. Tony On 04/24/2017 12:50 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:58:45AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: My problem with this exercise is it again postpones action to fulfill the mission. The board is responsible for what it talks about and decides

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] motion for a new mission statement

2017-04-24 Thread Tony Anderson
On 04/24/2017 05:50 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Tony Anderson (2017-04-24 11:10:36) Thanks for clarifying that when I installed Sugar (sucrose) on Ubuntu I was installing the Debian package. Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian. My problem with SOAS is this page; http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go

Re: [IAEP] Back on Task... The 2017 Sugar Labs Mission Statement

2017-04-28 Thread Tony Anderson
Compare: "Sugar Labs is a volunteer-run project whose mission is to reach global learners and educators with a collection of tools that enable them to explore, discover, create, and reflect in their local language. Sugar Labs distributes these tools freely and encourages its users to

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

2017-04-27 Thread Tony Anderson
://elearningindustry.com/23-microsoft-free-teaching-tools-for-educators-education' Should we compare Sugar to this list? Tony On 04/28/2017 08:20 AM, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: On 0

[IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

2017-04-27 Thread Tony Anderson
On 04/28/2017 12:00 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: "Sugar Labs is a community-run project whose mission is to support a collection of free/libre software tools that facilitates learners to discover, create, reflect, translate, share and appropriate such tools in sustainable and

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

2017-04-27 Thread Tony Anderson
this mission statement, we to consider how to rename the project. Tony On 04/28/2017 11:48 AM, Laura Vargas wrote: Dear Tony, 2017-04-27 22:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>>: Still amazing! I hope you mean this in the

[IAEP] Meeting August 4, 2017

2017-08-05 Thread Tony Anderson
I am amazed at the discussion on finance. The governing bylaw is at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions July 1, 2016. Our Finance Manager is Adam Holt. He must authorize every petty cash transaction (<$200) and the board must approve all other transactions. I am sure

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt)

2017-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
Samson and Ibiam will need a Shengen visa (https://buzznigeria.com/schengen-visa/). This is handled by the Consulate of France in Nigeria in Lagos (http://www.vfsglobal.com/France/Nigeria/) I would recommend they add a couple of days to the trip to visit Paris. They could fly to Paris de

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt)

2017-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
le to talk to to get it ready etc. it would be really great. They still lack one SLOB vote for approval. Too bad Samson can't vote for his own proposal  Caryl *From:* IAEP <iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> o

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] New ASLO Project Definition

2017-05-18 Thread Tony Anderson
, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: On 05/19/2017 09:24 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: The more difficult question is how to localize the summary and description of the individual activities. At present, it appears we don't attempt to localize this information. The

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 110, Issue 44

2017-05-22 Thread Tony Anderson
I don't understand the discussion of the visa issue. The visa is issued by the Consulate of France in Lagos. Make the stipulation that the money will not be transferred until the visa is in the passport. No government official in France is involved. The proposal seems clear. Scratch is paying

Re: [IAEP] Back on Task... The 2017 Sugar Labs Mission Statement

2017-04-29 Thread Tony Anderson
ful garden! Caryl ---- *From:* Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> *Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 6:31:24 PM *To:* Caryl Bigenho; iaep; walter.ben...@gmail.com; Samson Goddy; Lionel Laske; Adam Holt; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Laura Vargas; sameer verma *

[IAEP] ASLO activities with no repository

2017-05-21 Thread Tony Anderson
There are 224 activities in ASLO which do not appear to have github repositories [see attachment]. Developers of some of these could be keeping a repository locally or on a personal github. If anyone has knowledge of a repository, I would appreciate that information. After traveling this week

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

2017-09-22 Thread Tony Anderson
-05:00 Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>>: Laura "Shouldn't the Design team have a clear way to process all this teacher's and children's (users) suggestions/ideas?" I would love to see all these teacher's and

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

2017-09-22 Thread Tony Anderson
-09-22 8:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson <t...@olenepal.org <mailto:t...@olenepal.org>>: On 09/22/2017 07:19 AM, Laura Vargas wrote: Let's say for example a teacher on field suggests we should make downloading new activities easy and doable from the Sugar Us

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Re: Sugar Design Meeting/Reunión 21 September at 11 PM UTC IRC Sugar Meeting [DESIGN]

2017-09-22 Thread Tony Anderson
children's (users) suggestions/ideas? Regards 2017-09-22 9:48 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>>: ** To be able to download new Activities directly from the User Interface.* I have no idea what you mean by this.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Initial tests of Sugar on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

2018-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
working on GTK2 porting. As far as the Ubuntu bug, it is on our radar. regards. -walter On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote: On April 27, 2018 I downloaded the ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso. I generate

[IAEP] Initial tests of Sugar on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

2018-04-30 Thread Tony Anderson
On April 27, 2018 I downloaded the ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso. I generated a boot usb drive with dd. The usb stick was used to install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS alongside Windows 10. Sugar was installed using sudo apt-get install sucrose. From http://activities.sugarlabs.org/activities, I scraped

[IAEP] Sugaractivities - aslo alternative

2018-07-13 Thread Tony Anderson
This is to announce an interim alternative for ASLO. It provides access to  activities from ASLO and from github/Sugarlabs where a repository has been created. In Sugar, enter https://tony37.github.io/Sugaractivities as the url. This will display the main page providing access to the complete

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 129, Issue 12

2018-12-21 Thread Tony Anderson
IAEP has become nearly moribund with our current emphasis on developer-developer communication. I think this discussion should remain on IAEP to remind the subscribers that this is fundamentally an educational project not a software development project. As I understand it, olpc is ok but OLPC

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 129, Issue 17

2018-12-21 Thread Tony Anderson
It is wonderful to see a real discussion of the educational use of Sugar on this list. I am particularly interested in your programming syllabus for 5th grade students. I am trying to introduce text programming (Python and Javascript) to primary school students. I assume you did this class

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 129, Issue 15

2018-12-21 Thread Tony Anderson
Thanks James for this frank statement. 'Involved' means a software developer who works according to SugarLabs gitHub procedures and communicates by sugar-devel. Those who are users of Sugar and dealing daily with the reality of its benefits and limitations are not involved but merely 'busy'.

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 129, Issue 26

2018-12-25 Thread Tony Anderson
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to discuss how SugarLabs has been able to use gitHub to manage the GTK transformation of the Sugar activities.  or to focus on the work of one project in GSOC or GCI. I would hope our goal from the session is to attract volunteers to support the effort.

[IAEP] Marcel Minnaert

2019-06-26 Thread Tony Anderson
While at the iRods Userr Group Meeting at the University of Utrecht, I found this on the wall of the Minnaert building: "Aren't most children's games basically an excellent series of science experiments?"             Marcel Minnaert (1893-1970) Tony

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