[IAEP] Some curious social-psych research, with applications to OpenHatch, Nell, and...?

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Stone
Asheesh, Karen, (and various other friends interested in learning... :-) If you haven't already done so, you folks should think about finding yourselves copies of Carol S. Dweck's book: Self-theories: their role in motivation, personality, and development [1,2]. The punch-lines that I see for

Re: [IAEP] Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-02-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 at 00:11:13 +0100, Dinko Galetic wrote: On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Michael, This reminds me -- it looks like Dinko's changes were not merged into Pippy mainline. Can you tell us about the status of his work? There were things

Re: [IAEP] Gnome vs Sugar -- The judgement day

2010-06-25 Thread Michael Stone
Teachers demand a technological mean to solve a problem of discipline and computer literacy. Launch GNOME under a separate account with a quota and with limited or no sudo access. This will cut out most of the mayhem, thereby buying you time to work out a more integrated solution. Michael

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Proposal release management

2010-06-24 Thread Michael Stone
Simon wrote: What do others think about this? I'm glad that you have a proposal that excites Bernie, Bert, and Tomeu. I'm not sure what to think for myself because I don't know whether I correctly understood your intent from my reading of your, Bernie's, and Tomeu's words. (See below.) Bernie

Re: [IAEP] Devel Team vacancies + On sugar-0.90.

2010-06-07 Thread Michael Stone
On June 7, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2010 10:30 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: SeanDaly if tomeu were here, he would say: we need someone experienced, who knows the open source way, and does not need lots of briefing to get up to speed (he will correct me if I err) You can count on me

[IAEP] maintenance

2010-04-30 Thread Michael Stone
Tomeu, Hi, follows a plan about how to improve the situation regarding maintenance of our software modules. If you care about it, please reply even if only to say so... I care. , or even better, comment on it and suggest improvements. I will assume that lack of replies mean people

Re: [IAEP] sustaining development

2009-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
How can we reach sustainability on the rest of the process? Take employment elsewhere and work on Sugar in your remaining time if you still feel moved to do so. Michael ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-24 Thread Michael Stone
Dear Sugar folks, I have avoided wading into this discussion for some time because I wanted to see where it went without my interference. Therefore, before I say anything else, thanks for the entertaining show. :) Next, here are some thoughts for you, based on my own work, uses of Sugar, and

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-24 Thread Michael Stone
Ben wrote: Michael Stone wrote: Consequently, I want to make using activities more like web pages. That's why I work on rainbow and on networking design. ... In my opinion, ideally, they click a URL and the software they clicked runs most of the time. They don't care what version

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Stone
Tomeu, Frankly Michael, the only way I

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Stone
Gary, I'm tired and sad from talking on this subject but I still don't feel that I've been understood. (Or, if I have been, I haven't understood the rebuttals of my position, in which case I apologize for being so dense.) Anyway, here's one more try: Wow, blast from the past :-) Actually I'd

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Stone
Gary, Your reply just made my evening, and even more amusingly, I now think that we may both be right. Regards, Michael (In what ways are we both right, you ask? Very well: You're right that some real progress has been made -- you've assembled quite a list of Gregorio-approved features

[IAEP] Sugar packaging in Squeeze, Karmic

2009-08-11 Thread Michael Stone
Bernie, 1) Is anyone routinely testing Sugar in Debian? Yes, though not deeply. I conduct my occasional rainbow/sugar integration testing in Debian chroots via the instructions written down at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Chroot which I am in the process of automating as

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Stone
for me and letting me know what questions you are left with? Ben Schwartz wrote: Rainbow is not currently used much outside of the XO, but it should be, and it can be. Michael Stone, who developed it, no longer works for OLPC, but he has continued to update it. It can be packaged for any distro

[IAEP] A Fine Tradition...

2009-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
Carrying on a fine tradition of July-based Sugar reflections [1, 2], I'm going to offer some mostly unsolicited advice. (Sorry, Tomeu, but you asked me to write. :^) Dear Sugar Labs, In the past year, you succeeded in removing two important barriers to entry for new developers: you have

[IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Stone
Wade, Here are a couple of /very/ quick thoughts for you. Please let me know which ones are helpful and which are simply confusing (or misguided). Michael The basic premises of this rant are that we need to be able to mix, match and dissect activities so therefore

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:56:52AM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: David Farning wrote: Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ I forcefully object to everything about this website. It is ugly, off-putting, unnavigable, unreadable,

[IAEP] RFC: Supporting olpc-ish Deployments - Draft 1

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Pia Waugh (greebo) and I have spent a fair bit of time in the last month talking and thinking about what we can do in the next few months to best support present and future olpc-ish deployments (typically with XOs, typically running Sugar) and we'd like to share some of our thoughts with

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Governance.

2009-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 08:14:22PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: Here is my short-term suggestion: Why don't we appoint you as a monitor of the slobs list. No, thanks -- I don't feel that I can be responsible for SL's organizational conscience. Instead, I believe that this is something that we

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:25:13PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: (3) We need lots more Activities. While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on the best way to get a lot more Activities. That is, pulling a lot more

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 04:01:34PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:25:13PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: (3) We need lots more Activities. While

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:12:40PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: Can you please cite a few examples to help ground me further? Let's try: * the Etoys/Debian fight? * the F6/F7 timeframe Java fight? * the Debian/Fedora fight? (and the Ubuntu/Debian fight?) * the activity packaging formats

Re: [IAEP] a (distro) release with sugar 0.81?

2008-11-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:20:34PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: According to http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Sucrose-0-82-roadmap.png , no new features were developed in sugar after 0.81.3, we were in a feature freeze until the 0.82 release. All changes after then are translations or bugfixes. There

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] OLPC + Sugar

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 03:16:09AM +0100, Ivan Krstić wrote: it's hard to divine whether your statement in this matter -- or, in fact, a statement made by anyone but Nicholas -- carries any weight whatsoever. Such is life; I see no reason to let such doubts stop me. For 500K kids, Sugar+OLPC

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-10-27

2008-10-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 08:12:37PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: 2. What would creating a Sugar Activity require from me and what benefits would it bring? I've been pondering this question in some depth for the last week using my list summarization problem as a model. In hopes of offering something

Re: [IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Stone
Bill, Here's a short dialogue between myself, Ben Schwartz, Martin Dengler, and Bobby Powers on my interpretation of narrative as it might apply to a user interface designed for engaging children in the world of learning: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Sugar_2 ===

[IAEP] Narrative.

2008-10-04 Thread Michael Stone
Bryan Berry wholly captured my attention tonight when he said (in summary): Sugar offers an excellent mode for discovery but no excellent way to manipulate narratives. Both discovery and narrative are essential for learning. [1] This statement seems to me both indisputable and

Re: [IAEP] Teacher in OLPC-Sur list enchanted to see his idea integrated, into global Sugar update [First approach] (luis ACEVEDO)

2008-09-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:57:45AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are still a few loose ends to tie with the Turtle Art modification. I am trying to make it into somewhat of a case study that can be hopefully a catalyst