Re: [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Tabitha Roder]

I think Sugar Labs should approve the $US 627.05 travel advance for Samson
Goddy.
Tabitha


On Aug 11, 2017 8:44 AM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> I presume we need a motion and a vote on this. Time is of the essence, so
> please respond ASAP.
>
> Motion: Samson Goddy has been selected as a Sugar Labs representative to
> the Google Summer of Code mentor summit. He has requested a travel advance
> to cover the costs of his visa application. The advance, including wire
> fees comes to $US 627.05. This motion is to approve the travel advance. (As
> additional background, Google will be covering up to $2200 in travel
> expenses for two representatives to attend the summit. Since our other
> representative is local to the SF area, the bulk of that money would be
> available to cover Samson's travel, so the net impact on SL funds will be
> negligible.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Accounting at Software Freedom Conservancy <
> account...@sfconservancy.org>
> Date: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:16 PM
> Subject: URGENT request for Sugar Labs to approve of US$627.05 advance for
> Goddy for GSoC Mentor Summit (was: Is Goddy actually requesting $160 ?)
> To: su...@sfconservancy.org
> Cc: Martin Michlmayr , Samson Goddy <
> samsongo...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Sugar Labs PLC,  please urgently page down to the all caps section below.
>
> Samson,
>
> Samson Goddy wrote at 08:52 (EDT) on Wednesday:
> > it has been 5 days, i already made request to su...@sfconservancy.org
> for
> > funding. Since it takes up to 15 working days(3 weeks) for the embassy to
> > accept appointment for interview.
> >
> > I haven't heard anything from both parties.
>
> Unfortunately, We are waiting for someone from Sugar Labs to reply to
> approve the expense.  I don't know why they haven't replied.
>
> SUGAR LABS PLC: By my calculation, Samson is asking for this:
>
>   FOR TRAVEL TO GET A VISA, AND FOR THE VISA FEES ITSELF, SAMSON GODDY ASKS
>   FOR A CASH ADVANCE OF TRAVEL EXPENSES (TO COME TO GSOC MENTOR SUMMIT
>   2017).  The totals are as follows:
>
>   If we use western union, N202,350 = $570 (rate set by WU)
>
>   If we use wire, he's asking for 561+(561*.05)+13+25 = US$627.05 to be
> wired.
>wire fees
>
> If Sugar Labs PLC replies with approval before Sunday night US/Eastern, we
> can likely process a payment by wire on Monday.
>
>
> We don't typically use Western Union, and it would be substantial effort
> for
> us to do that, so we'd like Sugar to approve the additional wire fees as
> it will make payment more rapid for Samson and easier for Conservancy.
>
> Samson, your request was a bit ramble-y, so if I gleaned the wrong totals
> above, please correct them.
>
> Samson, in preparation for Sugar Labs PLC hopefully approving this request,
> could you let me know if the wire instructions I used for you before are
> still correct, and if not, send me new ones?
>
> --
> Bradley M. Kuhn
> Distinguished Technologist of Software Freedom Conservancy
>  |--> & also, de-facto Bookkeeper for the moment
> Pls support Conservancy!: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
>
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Don't Miss The Eclipse... on your XO

[Tabitha Roder]

maybe check your timezone?
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Re: [IAEP] play dvds

[Tabitha Roder]

On Mar 6, 2012 6:29 AM, Ken Hargesheimer minifa...@gmail.com wrote:

 How can the laptop be used to play DVDs?  I am sending the document below
around the world and I would like to tell people how to use it to play them.

 Ken Hargesheime

Give content on USB not DVD. USBs don't snap so easily or get scratched,
are easier to look after. USBs last longer, come in different sizes, allow
users to easily add or remove content for sharing, and most importantly
work on more devices currently available. The move from laptops to netbooks
means less and less people have CD or DVD drives.

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] play dvds

[Tabitha Roder]

On 6 March 2012 11:09, Ken Hargesheimer minifa...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am not an expert [two friends are] on computers, etc but I am an expert
 on using them.  In simple language, is there a way to make the XO play
 DVDs?

 Ken Hargesheimer

 The simple answer - The XO does not have a DVD drive so you cannot put a
DVD in them.
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Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

[Tabitha Roder]

On 6 March 2012 16:33, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi All...


Thanks to those of you who have answered that question.  It is really
 appreciated. If others have helpful suggestions about the programming
 aspects of this proposed project, I would welcome them.

 Cheers!
 Caryl


Hi Caryl

Not sure if you want to add this to the mix, but you might like to look at
Sahana.

 The Sahana Software Foundation is dedicated to the mission of saving lives
 by providing information management solutions that enable organizations and
 communities to better prepare for and respond to disasters.

  It might be that some of the things they are doing lead you to more ideas
on what programming environment you want to use. I remember talking with
Tim McNamara about Sahana and OLPC being a good combination and doing a
quick search I found -
http://wiki.sahanafoundation.org/phase2/doku.php/doc:olpcimg:english -
which suggests someone else did too.

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Nice tool for learning Python

[Tabitha Roder]

On 28 January 2012 17:28, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote:

 Just found this: http://people.csail.mit.edu/pgbovine/python/

 This tool looks like an amazing tool for someone who already understands
programming concepts to teach with but it seems a stretch for someone to
learn on their own with this tool by itself.
The first example code is aliasing but doesn't explain what a variable
is, or a function, or a list. It might be possible to discover these
concepts using the simulator but it is probably better explained in words.
Does anyone know of a suitable ebook or tutorial which the simulator could
be used with? Thinking of the cases where there is no one to guide the
student.
Thanks
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Promoting Pablo Flores to CEO of Activity Central

[Tabitha Roder]

On 7 December 2011 06:19, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 I am proud to announce that we are promoting Pablo Flores as the new
 CEO of Activity Central.


Congratulations, Pablo; I look forward to seeing where this leads for you,
Activity Central, and the flow on to Sugar and OLPC.

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
Cell +64 21 482229
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
http://tabitharoder.wordpress.com/
Winner: NZ Open Source Contributor Award 2010
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Re: [IAEP] OLPC Australia social networking site for teachers [WAS: Re: Contemplating Your SLOBS Vote]

[Tabitha Roder]

you can put me on your yammer network, no promises that I can do too much
as still learning what is possible with a baby



On 22 November 2011 16:45, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote:

 On 22 November 2011 14:34, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au
 wrote:
  On 19 November 2011 00:10, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  (1) In Australia, the teachers use a social-networking site called
  Yammer. Developers know to go to Yammer to communicate directly with
  the teachers. Is there a social-networking site in your country where
  the teachers gather? If so, we could hang out with them there. (I've
  asked this question many times in the past and never gotten an answer.
  Perhaps you or Carlos could investigate?)
 
  Yammer is working out really well for us, and we are tying it into our
  programme more tightly.
 
  We're currently putting together a certification programme for
  teachers. One of these certifications, the XO-cert [1], is a
  pre-requisite for a teacher to receive XOs for their class. In ways
  like this, we ensure that teachers are properly prepared on how they
  can use Sugar in their classroom before they can commence.
 
  Joining our Yammer network [2] is mandatory for teachers taking part
  in the courses [3]. Just as Sugar promotes collaboration amongst
  children, we want to do the same with Yammer for teachers. We provide
  rewards to teachers who are prolific posters on Yammer.
 
  Sridhar
 
 
  [1] http://edu.laptop.org.au/laptop/xo-cert-course
  [2] https://www.yammer.com/australianxoteachers/
  [3] http://laptop.moodle.com.au/

 If you are interested in joining our Yammer network (link [2] above),
 please let me know and I can send you an invitation to join.

 Please respect that we are trying to keep the discussion focused on
 user Sugar/XOs in an Australian educational context.

 Regards,
 Sridhar


 Sridhar Dhanapalan
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Re: [IAEP] Gus Andrews: What Kids These Days Don’t Learn From Technology

[Tabitha Roder]

I thought it was a woman?



On 9 November 2011 08:04, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Yes, a very interesting read, indeed.  This guy obviously forgot that he
 was supposed to guide the students in their learning. Of course they will
 try to game the system, if they are normal kids.  He needs to accept the
 responsibility of being in charge.  With a little bit of structure the Khan
 Academy videos could have been a great enhancement to his student's
 learning experiance.  Too bad he doesn't see that.

 Caryl

 To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:57:14 +0100
 From: sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org
 Subject: [IAEP] Gus Andrews: What Kids These Days Don’t Learn From
 Technology


 Hi!

 Saw this float by yesterday on #sugar. Very interesting read.

 http://gandre.ws/blog/2011/11/06/angry-birds-is-no-super-artillery/

 Sascha

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Re: [IAEP] Teaching with computers / Enseniando con Computadoras

[Tabitha Roder]

On 21 November 2011 09:47, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:


 I do have a suggestion which is actionable by those on this list: bug
 fixes are more important than new features.

 As a tester since mid 2008, I have come across a number of instances where
the stable core activities (things like Write, Memorize, Record) have been
broken in new builds. I would add my +1 to Tony's comment that bug fixes
are more important than new features, and would say (though it is probably
pretty obvious) that we should never ship a build where that core activity
set is broken (core activities were defined once upon a time, I think there
are 6).

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Communication from teacher - livescribe.

[Tabitha Roder]

On 18 November 2011 10:35, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.comwrote:

 Attached is a link to a live scribe video which one of their teachers
 created to help parents understand the techniques the school to teach
 two digit addition.


 http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/LDApp.woa/wa/MLSOverviewPage?sid=VSV4n7ZzgKgp


The lady is very clear, nice to give the parents a window into what the
students are learning.

I have one of those Livescribe pens. Does anyone know how to use it with
the XO?
It would be neat if we could find a way for the files to be shared via the
school server so both kids and teachers can create and share with everyone
their ideas, calculations, stories, drawings, etc that they create with the
livescribe pen. I know the pen is probably a bit on the expensive side but
who knows when something like this could turn up in schools.
I guess we could create an activity that uses the stylus mode of the XO-1.0
touchpad and records audio while you draw? Or maybe it is something for the
XO-3 touchscreen? Like Khan Academy.
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] 12-Year-Old XOs (even 18-yesr-olds)

[Tabitha Roder]

On 29 August 2011 16:16, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Later, when I looked at the Journal entries on some of the machines, I
 found they were incredibly old like 12 years! (Image3). There was one
 that said 18 years ago also, but I seem to have misplaced the image.

 Did you check what year the laptop thought it was?
If prior to you making any changes the laptop time was set to very far in
the past, and then while doing the updating the time got reset to the
current time, or anytime 12 years later than when the journal entries were
created, then you could get that time showing in the journal.
To check the current time set on the laptop, open terminal and type date and
press enter.
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Gmail other Google TOS

[Tabitha Roder]

On 21 July 2011 15:40, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am unsure if at any moment we have been encouraging kids to have a google
 account.
 Anyway, I just learned that Google appears to take as a serious breach of
 their TOS if an under-13 uses their services, to the point of deleting their
 data, etc.


I have been working on a one to one project that has a google partner
involved, we talked about google terms when we were worried about the google
search requirement of being 18 years old. The schools entered an agreement
with Google and use Google education apps.

http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/terms/education_terms.html

We were told that the agreement is between Google and the institution, not
the student or staff member. This differs to the individual setting up a
Google account.

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Alternative 'favorites view' as an intro to programming

[Tabitha Roder]

We tried this at a mini conf with adults. Found lots of typing required and
one typo meant it didn't work. It took a long time to do not much. Perhaps
we did it wrong; will be good to hear how others suggest to do this
activity.

Tabitha



On 21 July 2011 09:54, Christopher Lindgren chris.lindg...@my.ndsu.eduwrote:

  Hi, everyone,

 This is my first time emailing this list, but I've been reading for awhile
 now. I was wondering if I could request some help with an idea that I was
 thinking about doing with my SoaS project.

 I want to provide an engaging mini-lesson introducing the architecture of
 Sugar (python) to 4th and 5th graders. To do so, I thought that the
 favorites view modification would be a fun way to show them how there is
 code underneath this GUI, and you can change the code to change the WYSIWYG.

 Anyways, I am wondering how to go about this, using the latest mirabelle
 soas image? I have seen this wiki page: (
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hacking_Sugar#Emulation_Images), but I do not
 know how to view this source file. I only know how to do the View Source
 for the activities in Sugar.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated!

 Best,

 Chris Lindgren | fargoxo.wordpress.com

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs: account confirmation

[Tabitha Roder]

On 1 July 2011 12:08, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:


 Are you volunteering to be one of the admins? :)

 -walter


Yes. Also to offer help to anyone who is interested in developing any
courses on it.
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs: account confirmation

[Tabitha Roder]

 I think I have admin privileges, so I am happy to help. I don't know
 much about how Moodle works, so I'll need some guidance.

 -walter


 I have used Moodle for 7/8 years and do some work for one of the Moodle
partners. I can offer help with this Moodle site.
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs: account confirmation

[Tabitha Roder]

The welcome discussion post was added by David Farning and edited by Walter
Bender so you could try talking to them about who is managing the
http://schools.sugarlabs.org/ Moodle site.

I think this resource is probably under utilised and probably not well
publicised.
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Como Hacer Una Actividad Sugar is now published!

[Tabitha Roder]

On 23 June 2011 03:57, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:

 Como Hacer Una Actividad Sugar, the Spanish translation of Make Your
 Own Sugar Activities!, is now published at FLOSS Manuals:

 http://en.flossmanuals.net/como-hacer-una-actividad-sugar/


This is fantastic news. A big congrats to all those involved.
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Re: [IAEP] Easter Egg In Moon Activity?

[Tabitha Roder]

On 15 June 2011 05:31, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:


 If you can't catch this eclipse, see when you can catch the next ones
 where you live:


 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=next+lunar+eclipse+at+current+geoIP+location

 Regards,
 Nick


 Thank you Nick! I have shared this with my sister who teaches in a primary
school, very useful. I am hoping to see the local kids outside their houses
looking up at the sky on Thursday morning (our time). :-)
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] New Finance Request: Airfare to EduJAM for Sebastian Silva

[Tabitha Roder]

On 22 April 2011 16:41, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote:

  As per the new http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance I'm asking for Sugar
 Labs to sponsor my airfare to Montevideo
 Sugar Summit EduJAM http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Uruguay_Summit_2011.



For the olpc San Francisco bay community summit  last year Adam Holt setup a
way for people to make donations to cover DSD's flights; I think Adam used
Paypal.

Can we do something similar to help get Sebastian to EduJAM?

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-02-04

[Tabitha Roder]

 Couldn´t save files and many more problems.


That sounds a bit like the live-cd type of install?  I have had someone
contact me before saying they had installed Sugar in Virtual Box on their
computer and they said every time they used Sugar they started from scratch,
turned out it was the installation was the live-cd kind.

Instructions on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Apple_Mac_OS_X do say
they are for building and booting a live usb and it is hard to follow for a
non geek. There have been many conversations about this and satellit among
others has been quite active in pursuing how to make this better. Copied him
into this message.
Part of the problem is that these adults all have different models of
computers so they need different instructions, but we can't ask everyone to
buy the same model computer as we have our own reasons for choosing
different computers.

It would be a book entitled Sugar for Dummies


There is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Getting_Started which links to the
Sugar Learners Manual available in html or pdf.
I think a lot of the information required is out there, it is just pointing
people to the right place and checking it is placed in that right place
rather than spread out all over the web. That is why we need to all help
make sure the sugarlabs website is designed well, kept up to date and easy
to navigate.

Tabitha
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[IAEP] Fwd: [Sugar-devel] unique activities . . . for Oceania XO's, or other regions.

[Tabitha Roder]

reposting to oceania and iaep list ...



-- Forwarded message --
From: Sean Linton s...@lpnz.org
Date: 3 February 2011 22:32
Subject: [Sugar-devel] unique activities . . . for Oceania XO's, or other
regions.
To: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org


Hi:

One of the things I would like to know is that even at the current level of
deployment the OLPC project doesn't get attacked for eroding the indigenous
cultures of places when with some careful planning and insight it could
contribute to the opposite. The sort of thing I am thinking about is for
example where you have the TamTam activities, which have a pretty good
representation of instruments from around the world built in to the activity
already, but at this stage are not tailored to different regional
environments. I am thinking about the difference in using that program for a
child whose local music culture is represented by the program, and a child
whose musical instruments are not included in that program.

At one level the activity is useful for either child - the first can see
that his or her culture is part of this world wide project and that is
really neat, and the second child is at least given the opportunity to see
what other instruments from around the world are like. So either way it is
an education for who ever is using it, but with out that renewal of the
traditional instruments and the unique backgrounds (culture) being brought
into the light of this empowering technology I feel there is a danger that
the result is a monoculture. To counter this one other thing that I can see
being accomplished with the OLPC project is the ability to create audio
content, and distribute it locally. In this situation although we don't have
'place specific instruments' loaded as a part of the music iconography of
the OLPC, we at least have the ability to couple with community radio, or
other audio frameworks to promote locally generated content.

One thing I have heard is that OLPC, in a way, creates this situation of the
'haves' and the 'have nots'. Maybe you have heard this too? I think as long
as a focus of the project is making a contribution to building communities
through learning and networking the technology itself is less like a piece
of the pie and more like mixing dish.


It would be great to see the Canadian
'drumbeatshttp://www.olpccanada.com/content.php?id=12'
activity ported to all the places where the computers are, and that all of
those places could create their own version of that interface, drawing on
indigenous knowledge and experience of sound. However if for example
'drumbeats' is what makes OLPC in Canada unique, and that unique identity is
being expressed through this activity then it makes less sense to try and do
it in other places because that would be back to creating a sameness which
is contrary to the aim of renewal of indigenous music. My feeling is that
the identity created by 'drumbeats' is in the content and not in the fact
that it is unique to Canadian machines, and for that reason think it would
be great to see some more discussion on how to better equip this technology
to provide insights into more specific / less generic backgrounds.

It would be good to establish some more contacts who are on the same page
with this, I have also heard similar thoughts expressed by someone in Nepal.

all the best,

Sean

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Re: [IAEP] Quick Dumb Question

[Tabitha Roder]

  When Sugar Labs says an Activity works with 0.82-0.88, how does that
 translate to the OLPC builds like 10.1.3?


Perhaps it might be useful to know how to tell what your XO has - for me to
check this is what I do: from the activity ring I right click on the X in
the middle and choose settings and then about my computer. Then I can
see if I have 0.84 or some other number like that.


imho, at the end, that was wrong step with exposing sugar version on
 activities.sugarlabs.org. It is technical/internal stuff that peopel who
 launch activities should not bother about (it should just start proper
 version, installing proper dependencies). There is an ongoing work to
 implemnet excatly this scheme, so people won't do the job (resolving
 version/dependency related issues) by themselves, computers do that
 much better.


I think it is useful if there is a way for volunteers to easily grab a big
collection of activities that will work on the laptops at the deployment
they are going to. This is particularly important when going to a deployment
that has no internet (or a whole country with almost no internet). We put
activities on the school server and later realised that some wouldn't work
as they were for other versions of Sugar. Would it be possible to have
activities automatically put into a collection if they work on a given Sugar
version?

I completely agree that it is really confusing having Sugar versions and
those 10.1.X numbers, especially since we also have to deal with the release
number like 852 or 439, and then you add letters like dx for dextrose or au
for Australia. Simplifying this for everyone or having a wiki page that
helps it all make sense would be useful.

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi Tim
Reposting to the olpc devel list who might be better positioned to answer
your question.
Good luck!
Tabitha


On 29 January 2011 04:36, Timothy Falconer tee...@waveplace.org wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm done in Haiti, about to prep 120 laptops.  Normally we use our
 handy-dandy prep script.  One line is now giving grief in 10.1.3:

 sugar-control-panel -s language Kreyol/Haiti

 Seems there is no longer a language property.  So I look and find a
 languages property.

 I do a get on it, and yes, it's English/USA.  Seems the right thing.  So I:

 sugar-control-panel -s languages Kreyol/Haiti

 And after restarting, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE GONE.

 Can anyone confirm this or give me guidance.  How can I set the language in
 a bash script in 10.1.3?

 We're doing this work today, so please respond ASAP.

 Thanks,
 Tim


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Re: [IAEP] Help Request

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  We have a help request from someone in Puerto Rico.  He says this is his
  niece's XO and he wants to know how to get an activation lease.

 He can't unless there is a school server nearby, and in that case the
 school can help.


 What if he gets the developer key?
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Re: [IAEP] [MAP] OLPC hosting global mapmaking event (Dec 27-31)

[Tabitha Roder]

Will there be an online participation option for those that can't travel
that far? Can you video stream it?
Thanks
Tabitha



On 8 December 2010 04:17, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote:

  Beyond Boston's olpcMAP Sprint / Summit itself (previewed below,
 beautifying the 2-month old http://olpcMAP.net built entirely by
 volunteers) also watch for:

 * How to Mash Up olpcMAP(s) into Your Own site/app
 * Integrating OLPC/Sugar service learning volunteers into Your Own
 community
 * 20-30 confirmed participants (RSVP required) from around the US and
 beyond: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OlpcMAP#Attendees
 * Connecting with the actual OLPC/Sugar volunteers who coordinate in
 over 50 countries, each doing God's Work in their own way
 * Deployments' facts+photos you've never seen, and how CMU Nick Doiron
 created this map now unleashing them
 * New API  Data Model evolving:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OlpcMAP/data-api
 * Web 2.0 interfaces emerging: http://olpcMAP.net/community
 * Marina Dzobnova's professional survey asking deployments, children,
 parents and teachers how THEY want themselves  their schools visually
 getting to know each others' accomplishments, on http://olpcMAP.net


   Subject: OLPC hosting global mapmaking event  Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010
 00:38:48 -0800 (PST)  From: Nick Doiron 
 ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edundoi...@andrew.cmu.edu  To:
 CrisisCampBoston 
 crisiscamp-bos...@googlegroups.comcrisiscamp-bos...@googlegroups.com

 One Laptop Per Child's office in Cambridge is hosting an olpcMAP
 Sprint / Summit from December 27th-31st.

   [ http://saigonolpc.wordpress.com ]
  [ http://wiki.laptop.org/go/olpcMAP ]

 Topics will include:

 * Digital mapping with the OLPC laptop, including offline maps
 platform supporting GeoRSS and KML (formats of Ushahidi and Google
 Earth) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Ndoiron/OfflineMap

 * Use of http://olpcMAP.net to map and network schools which use OLPC
 laptops and the Sugar operating system.  The website and the laptops'
 software are free and open source.

 * Using the online map as a medium for photos, storytelling, and
 updates from local communities around the world

 OLPC has shipped two million laptops to schools around the world,
 including Haiti, Afghanistan, and other crisis-stricken regions.
 Educating students about the power of mapmaking and creating a
 communications / content portal serve the long-term interests of
 CrisisCommons.  There has also been discussion of adults using the
 laptops to run Ushahidi and Sahana on a low-cost, low-power, and
 resilient system.

 Please RSVP if you would like to attend part of our map sprint.
 Content-creation is going to be a major focus of December 28-29
 events, so it would be great if some of the crisis mapping community
 could be there.

 Regards,
 Nick Doiron
 Civil Engineering Class of 2011
 Carnegie Mellon University

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 Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net !

 Or change your options / unsubscribe here:
 http://groups.google.com/group/olpcMAPmakers

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Re: [IAEP] Group name for our FLOSS Manuals

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Hi James et al

If we had one group named one laptop per child that may be interpreted as
Sugar only works on XOs. Is there a way the name could be more reflective of
the diversity of Sugar? Sorry I don't have the answer there.
The other question is do they use good tags/keywords as this might mean the
name of the group is less of an issue as the books/manuals can still be
found.
I just noticed this email was addressed to three sugarlabs lists and no olpc
lists.

Kind regards
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On 25 November 2010 06:36, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:

 FLOSS Manuals is going to migrate the manuals to new software called
 Booki.  In that software related books are put into Groups.  The
 question is, what Group name should be used for our FLOSS Manuals?

 I would be happy with One Laptop Per Child myself, but I'm not the
 only author so we should try and come to some kind of consensus.  We
 could have more than one Group too, I suppose.  You can't have nested
 Groups, and we don't have that many books, so I like the idea of
 putting them all together under One Laptop Per Child.

 This is not imminent; we have *some* time to think about this.

 The other thing to know is that the *published* books will still be
 presented to the public the same way they already are.  It's just the
 authoring tool that is changing.

 Thanks,

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[IAEP] Global Education Conference - discussion tomorrow

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello Sugar Community

Tomorrow Manu and I are leading an open discussion about Sugar as part of
the Global Education Conference and would like to ask the Sugar community to
participate and support this discussion.

Read about it here -
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Global_education_conference (I put some time
zones on this page to help everyone work out when it is).

We would appreciate it if some Sugar peeps could join us in Elluminate and
also to help in IRC. We will point people to the #sugar-newbies channel -
http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1channels=sugar-newbiesprompt=1
We don't know how many people to expect or what level of experience with
Sugar (if any) they will have so it's pretty much play it by ear. I ran a
Moodle session yesterday for the Global Education Conference and there were
30 participants, so could be small like that, or much bigger (organisers set
Elluminate room capacity at 500).

Looking forward to seeing you there and thanks in advance for your support.

Kind regards
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Re: [IAEP] (no subject)

[Tabitha Roder]

Thanks for doing the write up Caryl. Would it be okay to put it on the olpc
wiki? I found http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Presentations/ but this appears to
be for olpc staff presentations (says - This page lists conferences hosted
by OLPC or at which OLPC presented, and links to slides and video of the
talks where possible).
If not on that wiki page, someone might have a better suggested page.

Thanks
Tabitha Roder



On 15 November 2010 18:30, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi All,

 Yesterday I did my 2 hour workshop and one hour presentation at the CUELA
 Tech Fair. I want to thank all of you who helped me solve some of the
 problems I was having with the software.

 My one hour presentation about OLPC and volunteering was great. Folks were
 interested, asked a lot of questions, and learned a lot. Some were even
 talking about the possibility of applying for the Contributors Program.

 The two-hour workshop about software was a bit disappointing.  It has been
 a long time since I have done anything in that timeframe. I found that I
 rushed through a lot of things and I actually finished about 30 min early.
 There was no way to warn folks that they needed to bring their laptops and
 usb thumb drives and, though some did, we had to rely on the XOs and the
 Dell PCs that were in the lab.  Also the internet connection we were
 supposed to have failed.

 However I did introduce them to Sugar, explained the ins and outs of making
 the live CDs and usb SoaS, had them try Etoys on the XOs or their laptops,
 made Etoys to go usbs for those who had brought sticks, and downloaded it to
 those who didn't but had their laptops with them. Two of them also asked me
 to me download Maple_Syrup to their laptops.

 I wrote myself a note based on the workshop which I will paste below so you
 can learn from my mistakes!  Actually, I knew I should do all of the things
 listed. Some were impossible, due to circumstances which I could not
 control.  Some of the things, I did do. Some I just forgot!  Yesterday I was
 swearing, Never again to 2 hour workshops, but now, I think I would like
 to try it again.

 I will put some notes into my presentation and post it so you can borrow
 freely from it if you like.  Give me a couple of days. I'll also put the
 list I have here on the wiki when I figure out where it should go.  If
 anyone wants to add to it, please do. Please remember, this is a generic
 guide, not specific to any particular workshop.

 Grannie B/Caryl



 *General things to do to make a better hands-on workshop*


 *Before the workshop:*


  *Know what the facility will be like*

 size and set up of room

 type of equipment

 what will you need to bring


  *Participants will need to know several days before*

 whether to bring a laptop or netbook (if they have one)

 what blank media they will need to bring

 CDs or DVDs

 usb thumb-drives (size)


  *Be sure the facility is ready*

 Equipment working properly

 Nearby restrooms opened

 Find out how to get help if needed


 *Spend time at the beginning:*


  *Introduce self and topic*

 Slides (a few)


  *Housekeeping notes*

 restroom location

 break policy

 explain about assistance with cleanup at the end


  *Have participants introduce selves. Ask  things that would be helpful to
 know for the workshop*

 such as...

 what level and subject do they teach?

 what computers do they use?

 what software do they use and what do they do with it?

 what would they like software to be able to do for them and/or their
 students

 what are their reasons for choosing this workshop?


  *Overview and background of what they will be learning in the workshop
 (slides)*


  *Set up working groups of at least 2 participants *

 Some ways to set it up

  by abilities (bend the line)

 by grade and or subject (sort)

 participants choose

 random (draw #s)


 *During the workshop:*


  *Break the tasks up into small modules*

 Encourage participants to wait for instructions

 Be sure all participants understand what they are supposed to be doing

 Enlist co-presenters or assistants to help

 **

 * Take photos!*

 * *Enlist co-presenters or assistants to help

 **

 *At Close of the workshop:*

 **

 * Participants finish project and return to their origninal places*

  Put away all equipment and materials

 Return furniture to its original position if it was moved


  *Quick review (slides)*

 What they did

 What they can do with their project (feedback)

 What else would they like to be able to do

 Suggestions for other workshops

 Other resources

 Congratulate them for their accomplishments

 Thank them for coming

 Hand out anything else you have to give them before they leave


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Re: [IAEP] chat.sugarlabs.org

[Tabitha Roder]

http://chat.sugarlabs.org/


This is very easy to remember and tell people about. I like this idea and am
glad you set it up.
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi Caryl

The abstract does not paint a picture of it's an education project. This
applies to the whole abstract. You can even use these words it's an
education project if it helps you clarify that Sugar is all about the
learning.

e.g. A. Moodle: similar to BlackBoard, but free.  You do pay for support if
needed
Moodle is not similar to Blackboard - Moodle is based on a social
constructionist pedagogy, you would find some similar theories to those
floating around the education research office at MIT Media Labs.
Try writing: Moodle: a learning management system designed with a social
constructionist pedagogy as a guide. It is distributed under GPL so is free
to use and has a community of support available as well as paid support.

So now lets take the opening:

 This presentation will focus on free educational software that can be run
 on most computers from a usb thumb-drive or live CD: Sugar on a Stick
 (SoaS).  This software is helpful when no internet is available, you do not
 wish students to have access to the web, or you do not wish to permanently
 install something new on the computer.


This presentation will focus on the education tool known as Sugar on a Stick
(SoaS); a learning platform that can run from a USB thumb drive or live CD,
without need for installing anything onto a schools computers.
Then perhaps quote Sugar Labs website:
The award-winning Sugar Learning Platform promotes collaborative learning
through Sugar Activities that encourage critical thinking, the heart of a
quality education. Designed from the ground up especially for children,
Sugar offers an alternative to traditional “office-desktop” software.

As far as I know CUE2011 is a conference for educators who use computers, so
try to appeal more to the educators.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
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On 9 October 2010 12:14, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks...
 I'm working on the abstract for my proposed presentation at CUE 2011 in
Palm Springs in March.  The filing deadline is Monday, but I was hoping to
put it in tomorrow morning since we will be traveling Sunday.  They asked
for an outline of the presentation in the abstract, that is why it is in
that form.  I want to focus mainly on Sugar and SoaS for this talk but still
put in stuff about OLPC and volunteering.
 If you have a few minutes to look over my attached abstract and give me
suggestions for additions or corrections, I would really appreciated it!
 Thanks,
 Caryl
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[IAEP] Global Education Conference 15-19 November 2010

[Tabitha Roder]

Hello Sugar lovers

The 2010 Global Education Conference will be held November 15 - 19, 2010,
online and free - I am wondering how much Sugar community support I could
get if I proposed a Sugar session, It would mean that before the session
attendees would need to download Sugar on a Stick, I think it would be good
if we had community involved and able to help with running it in more than
just English and helping people, anyone want to be involved?

I am thinking of proposing an open discussion, where people who have tried
downloading Sugar on a Stick and using it give us feedback on their
experience and can ask questions of the Sugar community.  If people are
having installation problems we divert them to IRC channel (maybe
#sugar-newbies) for instant support, and keep the elluminate session focused
on education benefits, suggestions, etc.

So far we have English and Hindi listed, thanks Manu for offering support
for this session and bringing your experience with grade 6 and 7 in New
Delhi Sugar on a Stick deployment.

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?

[Tabitha Roder]

I am so happy that my question of considering a deployment teacher on the
Sugar oversight board is generating engagement with teachers - whatever
happens from here we are already bringing the techies and the teachers
closer together just through this discussion.

I vote we all learn Spanish and English. Failing that, lets take another
look at how we communicate. Maybe mailing lists are not the most appropriate
method? If we rethink our communication method and start looking for a way
to talk that allows us to participate in our own language (even if the
translation is not perfect, maybe it is better than missing a lot of the
talk due to reliance on a translator following all the mailing lists) that
would reduce the language barrier for others in the Sugar community too, not
just English and Spanish.

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?

[Tabitha Roder]

 Mibbit is a web chat service that supports inline translation,
 http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Input_Options#Translation_Menu.

 The #schoolserver channel, irc://irc.oftc.net#schoolserver, might be a
 good place to use it.
 Here is a Mibbit link to it,
 https://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.oftc.netchannel=%23schoolserver

  --Fred


 Thanks Fred - maybe we can try to use that in our next meeting
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Re: [IAEP] How do I nominate Luke Faraone to run for Sugar Labs Oversight Board?

[Tabitha Roder]

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010-2011-candidates


It  would be really good to see a teacher who is in a Sugar deployment full
time on the oversight board or in a role that ensures the oversight board is
hearing from teachers in deployments.
omg does that make sense?
someone on the ground who is not technical to provide a balanced
perspective?
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] [MARKETING] Get Sugar landing page

[Tabitha Roder]

 If we support VIrtualBox we
 should probably also support VMWare, Hyper-V, KVM and Xen. Who's going
 to do all that testing when we have barely the resources to do a
 single image.

 Peter


I am a teacher of sorts and have been into loads of education institutes
from pre school through to tertiary. Apple is everywhere so we have to solve
this problem.

I use Virtualbox and have a geek master to turn to for help when I need it.
I have not heard of those other virtual machine things and all the teachers
I know that have tried a virtual machine have done so with Virtualbox or
something called bootcamp (which might not even be a virtual machine, who
knows?) and they generally also keep a geek nearby to help them along. My
designer type friends who use Macs know what Virtualbox is and will give
most things a go on the computer, but also have needed geek help with Sugar
installs.

Here is what the scenario looks like to me, the teacher:
You download Virtualbox (easy) and you download the Sugar image that lets
you try before you buy (easy). You feel fantastic that you have managed
this all by yourself without your geeky friend helping. You play happily for
a few hours. Next day you want to show someone else what you have done all
by yourself. You then realise you have done something wrong in setting up
your Sugar, as it gives you a fresh Sugar and loses all your work and
downloaded activities each time you restart. Disappointed, you don't give
up, you give it a go with trying to find out what is wrong. Then you get
angry and feel a failure. Then you call a geek. Then they mess with your
computer, they get on the web and read lots and flick between wiki pages
looking muddled. Then they try downloading things and try to fix it. Then
they read some more and try to fix some more. Then they get angry. Then
there are tears and you say just give me the other computer (this is
particularly bad when that one is a Windows machine as that is the sign of
complete failure) and everyone forgets the Mac for a few months until
someone is brave enough to ask if it works now.

Can you tell we have been through this cycle quite a few times here in NZ? I
have tried since mid 2008 to work out how Sugar could work on my Mac. It is
soul destroying to fail at this repeatedly and a complete put off for
teachers who are being brave and trying new approaches with technology.

I hand out Sugar on a Stick on USB keys to teachers at loads of events and
am often asked if it will work on the school Macs, and I have to say no it
won't, and they hand the USB back. Lost opportunities. :-(

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Software Freedom Day 2010.09.18

[Tabitha Roder]

We are having software freedom days in NZ and will put information on
this website when we get back from Samoa olpc deployment:
http://softwarefreedomday.org.nz/

So far, I know of events in Auckland, Wellington, and Hamilton, with
rumour of some other city events.

Tabitha


On 02/08/2010, Kevin Cole kjc...@dc.sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Hi,

 For those of you looking for an excuse to promote Sugar and other FOSS
 projects, you may want to think about doing something for Software
 Freedom Day... Details at http://softwarefreedomday.org/

 (In DC, we mung the date a bit, because there's a big folk festival
 six days prior to SFD.  So we have our SFD event at the Takoma Park
 Folk Festival (http://tpff.org/) on September 12th instead.)
 --
 Kevin Cole
 Sugar Labs DC
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[IAEP] Recommend build for XO-1.0 deployment

[Tabitha Roder]

We are in Samoa helping out at two small deployments. We are
installing a school server and wifi at each school. They are running
8.2.1 on XO-1 hardware  (G1G1 donation). We have been running this
build on our laptops and it feels like a big step down from the sugar
0.84 and bernies's 0.88 builds we have been testing recently.

Does anyone have a build they would recommend? I believe the laptops
are locked, so it will have to be signed.

I'm running a newer build on one of our XOs and browse can't do http
basic authentication to configure the access points :-( I think it is
os300 (but that XO isn't with me right now).

Drop cc: on mailing lists that dont belong please.

Thanks for your help
Tabitha and Tom
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Re: [IAEP] Contents of IAEP Digest, Vol 28, Issue 24

[Tabitha Roder]

On 19 July 2010 00:26, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Though there are a few truly important differences between books and
 laptops, it would be really worth while to get *your* answers to your
 questions with regard to having any and all books that one could desire in
 the same educational situations in NZ.

 I am not entirely sure I understand. In NZ we have computers in every
school, just not many computers. Unfortunately we don't take the approach
that olpc recommends. We don't have:
* child ownership (and the empowerment that goes with that, I don't feel the
benefits of learning outside and school and within community are as widely
recognised as it should be)
* low ages (computers are used a little bit at all ages in most schools, but
learn by play is mostly for preschool here, then it gets more and more
serious and unplay like as school years go on for some sad reason)
* saturation (1 or 2 computers per class)
* connection (schools have internet mostly, but that does not translate to
connection between kids creating, constructing knowledge together)
* free and open source (an area being worked on by a few fierce voices, and
growing awareness is occuring in schools but there are politics to overcome
as much as understanding to build)

I think new teachers entering our schools know about the theory of
constructionism and social constructivism, but I don't know how many can
translate that theory into practice, or how well our education system allows
for this. I think we can do more thinking about thinking about ways to think
(thanks for the essays Marvin), utilising networks more and providing
appropriate mentors.

There is a high school in NZ that is leading changes to our education
sector. Albany Senior High School - http://ashs.school.nz/ and
http://theopensourceschool.blogspot.com/ are good places to see a completely
open source school by design. Open source matches their teaching philosophy.
They run a unique timetable with 100 minute blocks, impact projects on
Wednesdays which are students working on their own developments, tutorials
and community development time. The school has shared learning spaces not
classrooms. There are some other schools that use open source software but
this one is the most public presently.

I think the view of technology and its application for learning need to
change in NZ.

Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Contents of Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

[Tabitha Roder]

 * Encourage new people to join our project

 We have a welcoming join page ( http://join.sugarlabs.org ). Most
 members of our community are also nice to newcomers, as long as they are
 sufficiently technical to understand our jargon.

 We're definitely intimidating to non-technical people. At least, this is
 what I sensed at the Realness Summit. OLE also seems to be doing a
 better job at connecting with educators. I'm not completely sure what
 corrective actions should be. We might need to do some work on the wiki,
 maybe add web forums, which non-geeks tend to prefer...

 --
   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/


I am an educator.

I feel my contribution to olpc and Sugar over the past two years has mostly
been in the technical space (opinions may differ here but this is how I see
it). I am coordinating testing efforts from NZ and trying to grow a
community of testers here. Even as an educator, showing my educator friends,
I have struggled to recruit educators to help, yet getting programmers
interested has been easier. I feel my education background is important --
conversations  about how activities are used are very different when
programmers talk without educators. What is defined as a bug or feature is
different; ease of use is different for an educator to a techie (stupid
icons from programmers turns to thank goodness there is no reading
requirement for young students and non English speaking students from a
teacher). It took over a year to get another educator in the testing
community here.

Both educators and programmers that I have asked are similar in that both
are likely to have the same time constraints and same willingness to give
what little time they have for free to worthy projects.

I have come to the conclusion it is perception of olpc and Sugar being for
technical people. The reason I am now seeing a shift and getting more
educators and translators is because I am more able to see the ways
educators can contribute.

The olpc and Sugar wikis are both wikis, that requires a level of computer
literacy that a lot of teachers don't have. It is not easy to find
information. It is not possible to make Sugar on a Stick without another
level up again of computer literacy. I can't just try Sugar on a website, or
buy a live CD (I learned how to use Ubuntu with a live CD). There is a level
of hand holding required for teachers to get started. I follow a lot of
mailing lists and many posts are duplicates of others and written in geek
speak so I have to ask for help to understand what is going on. The join
sugarlabs page does not welcome educators at all, it seems to be some sort
of geek idol, or maybe a metal monster (really, should it be a picture of a
computer rack?).

I don't have any answers sorry, but hope talking about it helps us find
some.

As a teacher I don't care about applications for school administration - I
think this is the case for most teachers. In my work role (VLE/Web 2.0
Academic Advisor) I have to consider administration but only to get it out
of the way for teachers so they can get on with the teaching and learning.
It is nice to have tools that either automate all the administration or
minimise the time required to do administrative work as it distracts from
the time with the learners.

As a teacher I care about things my students can use to help them learn. I
care that I can help them find these applications and help them use them,
it's okay by me to learn how to use it at the same time as them, but in that
I am not a normal teacher. I care that I can find tools to help me
demonstrate to students, give examples, engage them in the learning
activity.

I can't do everything in Sugar currently. One day I might be able to. As a
teacher, I need: tabbed browsing, skype, irc, jabber client. I live online
and every tool is somehow related to collaboration and connection.

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[Tabitha Roder]

   Are developers using Sugar as their day-to-day development
   environment yet?


I am an educator and tester of Sugar.  I just spent four days in another
country using an XO-1.5 as my travel laptop. I went to visit a tertiary
institute in Australia to help them with their Moodle, then went to a Moodle
conference to present. The XO was running build 205 and I used Gnome (with a
few additions) and Sugar probably pretty equally.

Touch typing took a while to get my head around. I had to slow down and
typing mistakes were regular (I normally type about 80wpm with 99% accuracy,
and probably dropped to about half that speed and accuracy initially but I
did get better).

On the Sugar side - mostly used browse, write, record, memorize, maze,
physics.

Additional installs to build 205 I required - Skype, irc (xchat), jabber
thing (empathy), open office presentation (Impress). Needed lots of other
packages to run those.  Rearranged the panels so there was only one panel at
the top, removed the wide menu thing and replaced with foot menu. Removed
gnash because it left processes hanging around using 100% cpu.
gnome-utils (for the system monitor applet)
rpmfusion's mplayer packages
adobe flash via their yum repo

Skype worked, but was unable to record sound, so other party couldn't hear
me. I could hear them and video worked both ways.

Set up a displaylink external USB DVI adapter for doing my presentation, but
didn't need it. Unfortunately at the conference I had to use their
conference equipment so did not present from the XO but lots of people
played with Sugar in the breaks.

Will do proper write up with full list of modifications and post or link it
to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Tabitha

On the Sugar side - mostly used browse, write, record, memorize, maze,
physics.

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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] eBooks for Primary Students?

[Tabitha Roder]

http://en.childrenslibrary.org/
International Childrens Digital Library - Note that you can choose a lot of
languages, so have a good look around the website to be sure you have found
the books you are looking for.
Tabitha



On 23 June 2010 09:48, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi

 Can some of you send me some links to sites with free ebooks/digital
 textbooks suitable for use in primary schools... English is ok. Need to be
 culturally unbiased if possible.  I need these for for folks doing
 Contributors Program projects in Uganda and on the Crow reservation in
 Montana.

 Thanks!

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Re: [IAEP] [Design] Multiple instances of same activity (Was: First steps with Sugar)

[Tabitha Roder]

 Has anyone seen good real world cases where allowing multiple instances of
 the same activity to be run was useful or a vaguely common practice?


I use multiple instances all the time. Particularly for comparing things,
but also for copying bits out of one and into another.

Example
1. write about how you describe yourself
2. write about how your family describe you
3. write about why they might be different
You need to see the first two texts to carry out the third part of the
exercise.

You can have the same requirement for multiple instances in many activities
- using a calculator, browsing the internet, drawing pictures, all sorts.
What if I create something in phsyics or etoys or scratch, and want to
create something else to go with it but want to do it in another place so I
don't wreck the first bit, then want to join them both together. I want to
build on my first concept in one way and another way, then compare the
different paths I took and see which was better.

These are valuable to the learning process. I think multiple instances are
very important.

I have experienced the frustration of low memory issues and would rather
have the option to wait for the laptop to recover or even restart the
laptop, than not have multiple instances as an option. IMHO.

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Re: [IAEP] deployment meeting and how we can support through testing

[Tabitha Roder]

Do we have a time yet for our next deployments meeting? Last message I have
is that we said Wednesday 9 June.
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[IAEP] deployment meeting and how we can support through testing

[Tabitha Roder]

This morning I joined in a deployment meeting on IRC. It's aim is to provide
feedback, learn about deployment concerns, talk about migration to 0.88 and
how to better integrate deployments and upstream work.


First up was Anurag talking about Delhi, India, where he is going from June
to August to work with 100 students in two schools. They plan to use Sugar
on a Stick - 0.88 - and school server. Each student will be getting a thumb
drive for use in the schools computer labs. Anurag will provide details of
the hardware in the computer labs so we can test his planned install.
More info http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_India and http://www.seeta.in/j/
They want to be sure the send to function works in the Journal so students
can send to the teacher.  They are also struggling with the XS setup.
We can see some of the planned activities on the Seeta website.


Daniel_C, Esteban and Ebordon talked about Uruguay. With 360,000  XO-1.0
laptops, 100 employees (teachers, sociologists, engineers). There are 5
people working on software.
They are currently on 0.82 but are making their first Fedora 11 image thanks
to Paraguay. They will email the testing list with their test request when
the image is ready. Plan for deploy around July / August.


Tony Forster talked about multiple deployments - Timor Leste (East Timor)
25+25 laptops, Australia 1500 laptops and Oceania 3000 G1G1 laptops.
The first 25 laptops for Timor Leste (East Timor) are about to arrive. The
identified issues so far are lack of resources in Tetun, the national
language and quality open source textbooks. Also the relationship between
the constructionist self-directed learning Activities and the more
conventional curriculum. That is, the expectation for the equivalent of
textbooks, worksheets and lesson plans in electronic form. Resources for the
Timor Leste deployment are at http://www.seaton-olpc-ug.org/?q=node/54
OLPC Australia has been very active. For Australian indigenous communities,
low English literacy coupled with a large number of indigenous languages
each with a small number of speakers is an issue.  (Localization seems to
have been effective for large deployments sharing a single language but less
successful for smaller deployments and languages).
oceania, each has a satellite station mainly solar, Timor Leste no net, one
unreliable mains other solar, au will have net and quality solar/diesel


Dirakx spoke from Colombia. http://co.sugarlabs.org/
They have a mix of XOs with 0.82 and Sugar on a Stick blueberry already.
There are 7 district schools at Bogota who will use Sugar installed on old
computers. Most places have electricity and internet but not very good
connectivity. We need more information to test for Colombia.


Icarito and alfredogutierrez spoke from Lima, Peru.
http://somosazucar.org/  and http://pe.sugarlabs.org/
They are working with native Amazonian schools in Lima and going to Puno
next. They have XOs and there is an etoys expert local (zdenka). They will
get connectivity in the school from the education board. They plan to
discuss with the board how to get schools collaborating. They use Sugar
0.82.


tch (Martin) spoke from Paraguay where they have 4000 F11 Sugar 0.84 XO-1.0
they want to update to 0.88 in August and want to deploy next 5000 XO-1.5
with 0.88 in September. They are working on some sugar activities like poll
and adding new features.


I look forward to being able to test for these deployments and any other
that requests testing - mail test...@lists.laptop.org your test request.


There were two closing questions:
1) how do we (deployments) aggregate our feedback so developers can know
better how to act upon problems
2) how do we (deployments) share our lessons learned to make it easier for
new/others deployments
I am hoping someone else can summarise this as I had to leave. :-(


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Re: [IAEP] community team

[Tabitha Roder]

Please include the timezone when you decide a time so I can work out what
time that translates to in NZ please.

Thanks
Tabitha




On 25 May 2010 08:42, Anurag Goel agoe...@gmail.com wrote:

 In light of the olpc realness summit running until June 2nd, June 3rd seems
 appropriate and the best date for me. I'll be attending my sister's
 graduation on the 4th then flying to India on the 5th. Does June 3rd work
 for those interested in attending?

 Thanks,
 Anurag


 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Anurag Goel agoe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shall we start throwing out dates for the first meeting? How about June
 1st or 2nd?


 On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nzwrote:

 I am watching this conversation with deep interest. In my attempts to
 develop a community of olpc and sugar volunteers in New Zealand I have
 experienced all sorts of extremes in emotion, energy drain, feelings of
 success and failure, and I still wouldn't give it up because I believe in
 what olpc and sugar have been striving for.

 Mostly I wish for more hours in the day; more hours for me and for the
 volunteers who have been trying to help along this journey with me. It takes
 a whole community and each of the players contributes in a different way. I
 have been frustrated when I have not been able to fill a role that requires
 a certain skill (e.g. translation, programmer, educator, funding guru,
 importing guru, etc) and disappointed with myself for not learning all these
 skills (obviously you can't learn everything).

 As a community of practice subgroup here in New Zealand we have tried to
 nurture each other and help each other learn so we all have more knowledge,
 we have shared challenges, learned the importance of regular interaction (we
 would have failed if it were not for the regularity of same place, same
 time, every week). We have had to define what we do and how will we do it,
 as well as build confidence in talking to others about what we do and why.
 This identity helps us. We have all had to work hard in our roles as
 volunteers, whether that be in recruiting others or in sacrificing time to
 investigate bugs or in other ways, or in financially supporting events to
 get olpc and sugar news out to others in New Zealand.

 As community lead for NZ I have had to learn how to set boundaries and
 minimums (this has been hard for me, but I have had to learn it for the good
 of the community). I have had to provide direction at times and step back
 and see what happens at other times. I have been surprised by some of those
 things. I have encouraged a culture of support and nurturing with the
 community. I have made mistakes and wished I had done better.

 My two cents: a community leader MUST have time, understanding of the
 nature of volunteers contributions in all their forms, and clarity in
 communication.

 Tabitha


 On 22 May 2010 20:15, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote:

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:59, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
 wrote:
  El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió:
 
  We also need to ask the Wiki team to create a new instance of the
 team
  template, such as this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team
 
  Perhaps we don't need a new template. The Community Team page could
  simply be this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs
 
  The header already reads Community Home, and the content of the
 other
  subpages is already more or less appropriate.

 Sounds like a great topic for the kick-off meeting!

 Regards,

 Tomeu

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Re: [IAEP] community team

[Tabitha Roder]

I am watching this conversation with deep interest. In my attempts to
develop a community of olpc and sugar volunteers in New Zealand I have
experienced all sorts of extremes in emotion, energy drain, feelings of
success and failure, and I still wouldn't give it up because I believe in
what olpc and sugar have been striving for.

Mostly I wish for more hours in the day; more hours for me and for the
volunteers who have been trying to help along this journey with me. It takes
a whole community and each of the players contributes in a different way. I
have been frustrated when I have not been able to fill a role that requires
a certain skill (e.g. translation, programmer, educator, funding guru,
importing guru, etc) and disappointed with myself for not learning all these
skills (obviously you can't learn everything).

As a community of practice subgroup here in New Zealand we have tried to
nurture each other and help each other learn so we all have more knowledge,
we have shared challenges, learned the importance of regular interaction (we
would have failed if it were not for the regularity of same place, same
time, every week). We have had to define what we do and how will we do it,
as well as build confidence in talking to others about what we do and why.
This identity helps us. We have all had to work hard in our roles as
volunteers, whether that be in recruiting others or in sacrificing time to
investigate bugs or in other ways, or in financially supporting events to
get olpc and sugar news out to others in New Zealand.

As community lead for NZ I have had to learn how to set boundaries and
minimums (this has been hard for me, but I have had to learn it for the good
of the community). I have had to provide direction at times and step back
and see what happens at other times. I have been surprised by some of those
things. I have encouraged a culture of support and nurturing with the
community. I have made mistakes and wished I had done better.

My two cents: a community leader MUST have time, understanding of the nature
of volunteers contributions in all their forms, and clarity in
communication.

Tabitha


On 22 May 2010 20:15, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote:

 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:59, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
 wrote:
  El Tue, 18-05-2010 a las 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió:
 
  We also need to ask the Wiki team to create a new instance of the team
  template, such as this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team
 
  Perhaps we don't need a new template. The Community Team page could
  simply be this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs
 
  The header already reads Community Home, and the content of the other
  subpages is already more or less appropriate.

 Sounds like a great topic for the kick-off meeting!

 Regards,

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Re: [IAEP] Looking for Montreal XO/Sugar users

[Tabitha Roder]

 One of the teachers has an affinity for the city, and Canada is part of the
 5th grade social studies curriculum.
 Did you have somewhere else in mind?

 No where else in mind, just having the reasons helps people decide if they
should put their hand up with alternatives - would you like to be contacted
by other XO using schools if they are interested in a penpal arrangement?
(what age is 5th grade? is that 10 year olds? we have different terminology
here).
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] contents of Need Resources for Presentation

[Tabitha Roder]

 Are you talking about me and SCaLE 8X?  I don't think the projector will
 work with an XO. The XO doesn't have a port for the projector dongle does
 it?  I plan to make my presentation from slides I already have plus a few
 new ones.

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Projector


 I will admit that I am not a purist. When the presentation program in Open
 Office kept crashing during the prep of my first slide show, I finally gave
 up in frustration and went out and bought Work for my Mac.  I can
 comfortably make a nice presentation in Keynote and then export it to ppt,
 pdf, or open office and use it there.

 I have a Mac and use Keynote sometimes.  I also use google presentation so
I can work collaboratively (as I am with the next olpc / sugarlabs
presentation for LCA2010 in a week).


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[IAEP] NZ Volunteers presenting at LCA2010

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi

The NZ volunteers are presenting at LCA2010 during the education miniconf
(Tuesday 19 January) and are going to have a booth at the Open Day (well
actually two booths - OLPC and Sugar) in Wellington. We have started a
presentation that will lead to workshop on how to hack Sugar activity view
layouts (note the audience of LCA is technical).

http://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AaE4gRWaGNm1ZHFyaDNqcl8xOWNjeDV4eGg2hl=en

If anyone would like to input into our presentation or give us ideas and
feedback please feel free to email us on our list  olpc...@lists.laptop.org
.

We appreciate any help offered and will make the presentation available to
others to use at other events.

Thanks
Tabitha Roder

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Re: [IAEP] contents of IAEP Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8

[Tabitha Roder]

 1. http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/recommended


can the downloaders of the activities be asked to recommend an activity?
user recommendation list?
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Short Survey for Educators

[Tabitha Roder]

Thanks for starting the survey, some thoughts...

 1) Your position:
how about we add parent or student?

 Elementary (specify grades) ___  Middle School (specify grades) ___
 High School (specify grades)   Other (specify) _
Can we use terminology that is not country specific please?
We would not know an elementary from a middle school here, likely same
issue in other countries. We have preschool, primary, secondary,
tertiary.
Suggestion:
Ages of students: from  to __

 5) What kind of computers do you have for student use? (Check all that
 apply)
 PCs   Older Mac G4s or Power Macs ___
 Newer Intel Based Macs ___ Laptops (specify kind) __

Some people might not know what Intel or G4 or Power Mac means, but
can remember what is written on the front of the screen. e.g. MacBook
or iBook, HP or Dell. Is there away to capture that information if
they can't use the categories above?


 6) Where did your school get the computers? (check all that apply)
 Bought new __ Donated new _  Donated used _

What about bought second hand?

 7) What software is used most by your students? ___

Do we want examples?
Do we want to know operating system?

Thought: They might be able to tell us more information from pictures
than words

 8) Does your school have plans to buy new computers in the near future?

 Yes__  No 

don't know is a category for some of the people answering this survey


 9) If you could have free access to any kind of software for your students,
 what kinds of learning activities would you want to have available for them?

 __



 Optional (only if you wish)
 Your name:
 Email:
 School Name:
 ___

school phone number?
school address?
how big is your school? student numbers and teacher numbers?

Does the school have internet access? what kind?

Is there a contact at the school that the surveyed person wants us to contact?



That is about all I can think of right now
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Re: [IAEP] contents of IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 121

[Tabitha Roder]

 I would like to announce the completion of the Sugar Labs Test Election.

 Does anyone else have feedback on the test election?  Please submit
 that feedback to this list or to me personally.

 David Farning
 SLOBs election 2009-2010 referee


Hi David
The first time I submitted my vote the next page asked for
confirmation - it showed a different order to the order I had put in.
Went back and changed to the order I wanted again and resubmitted. The
second time it confirmed the order correctly. So I submitted it and
got a confirmation vote token.
Tabitha
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Re: [IAEP] Contents of IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 99

[Tabitha Roder]

   5. Re: A Virtual Box solution that works with Sticks (Gary C Martin)
 Message: 5
 From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] A Virtual Box solution that works with Sticks
 Can anyone think of way to use Virtual Box that would allow students
 to use the info on their sticks so they can at another point in time
 use a classroom computer and not always need to use the same MacBook?

 Sure, you could just link the ~/default/datastore directory on the VM
 to the matching location on the stick. I'm not sure how the pretty way
 to do this would be (likely at this moment in time would be just
 tweaking the VMs to assume the stick was there). Pop stick in, then
 run the VM would be the workflow once set-up. From a future stand
 point, you'd likely want to push upstream for a feature where Sugar
 checked for valid (and correct version) data-stores on start-up
 (perhaps with a UI if more than one valid data-store was found), so
 any external media device, or perhaps even mounted network volume
 could become the default data-store for that session.

 Regards,
 --Gary


Hi Gary - is there any wiki page with this sort of information we can
link to for mac users? we have come across the mac issue here when we
gave out SoaS USB keys at Software freedom day, and have volunteers in
our testing group who are mac users running virtual box who have been
unable to test SoaS USB keys. Thanks, Tabitha.
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Re: [IAEP] Contents of IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 78

[Tabitha Roder]

 Anyway, as a muggle or someone with little information (a.k.a. the
 public) I actually thought, could say was sure, eve, that Sugarlabs was
 pushing SOaS as their flagship product, maybe SugarLive was there around
 somewhere, or course (?!?!) Sugar for the XO, whose status seems so
 unclear...  Being better informed that most I knew that SOaS ran on
 top of Fedora, like the XO Sugar did, so no surprises, but that's it
 AFAIK.  I was glad people kept an eye on Ubuntu (my distro of choice),
 and there's been some enthusiasm around Xtra something going on last
 week in OLPCNews, and SD card based distro.


For what its worth, I thought Sugarlabs were using Sugar on a Stick as
an entry tool to introduce people to Sugar before deploying Fedora
with Sugar as the operating system and GUI of choice for schools. I
assume that Sugarlabs are still making this possible for XO hardware
as well as other hardware that schools can get their hands on.


 So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs
 Sugar on a Stick and each individual team and product Fedora Sugar
 on a Stick, OpenSUSE Sugar on a Stick, etc. From time to time SLs
 would decide to call and market as Sugar on a Stick a particular
 release of a particular flavor. This decision process should be very
 transparent and fair, of course.

IMHO, It is confusing to non geeks when you everything has strange
names that dont make sense to them. Can we say Sugar on a Stick to
public (and that is always the SoaS that sugarlabs thinks is the
safest for public consumption) with a flavour tacked for techie
tracking? Incremental seems logical for those lucky enough to learn
maths, so can I suggest we tag numbers on. E.g. Sugar on a Stick -
Strawberry 1.01 could be code for the SoaS that is Fedora based and
is release 1.01 and the next SoaS that is Fedora based be Strawberry
1.02. Ubuntu versions would be Vanilla 1.01 and OpenSUSE versions
would be Lime 1.01 or something. That takes only one page on the
sugarlabs wiki to check what you actually have and means end users
just see minimal information = Sugar on a Stick.

 register SOaSFedora.org and such others
 sugaronastick.com

IMHO, Also easier for end user if there are only a few sites to look
at not many. We point everyone to laptop.org and sugarlabs.org - we
can tell people that information here is most likely to be accurate.
If it is spread over many sites they might miss finding accurate and
current information. Redirects could be useful though. One page
websites that give basics and then point to the correct sugarlabs page
maybe?
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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 61

[Tabitha Roder]

 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

With the struggle to to get small quantities of XOs into countries and
through customs and getting funding for hardware, Sugar on a Stick is
vital. It has helped us get information out and publicise the great
work going on in developing countries and makes it possible for us to
utilise existing hardware in schools.

We are giving out SoaS at Software Freedom Day - we have about seventy
USB keys that have been donated to us by Sun Microsystems for this
purpose.

SoaS allows us much easier means of getting Sugar into government too.

We initially struggled to get SoaS working and found it hard to get
support from the community. Making SoaS an official project might make
this easier. It would also be good to have a a clear indication of
which is the best version for us to hand out to people (we chose
Strawberry) and which version we should only be testing with.

Thanks
Tabitha
Wellington OLPC and Sugar volunteer group coordinator - http://laptop.org.nz
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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 61

[Tabitha Roder]

Hi Caroline

Volunteers roped into slave labour was the key to getting all those
USB keys setup with SoaS. Seriously, I don't know, Alastair and Carl
did it. Copied them in, don't think they will mind sharing how they
did it. After weeks of trying to get it setup right and installing
properly, on the day it took hardly any time at all. We did test a
good portion booted to be sure before handing them out. We used USB
hubs and two laptops.

Kind regards
Tabitha


2009/9/17 Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com:
 Great news!
 What method did you use to burn that many USB sticks? How long did it take?
 Thanks,
 Caroline

 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@hrdnz.com wrote:

  Subject: Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

 With the struggle to to get small quantities of XOs into countries and
 through customs and getting funding for hardware, Sugar on a Stick is
 vital. It has helped us get information out and publicise the great
 work going on in developing countries and makes it possible for us to
 utilise existing hardware in schools.

 We are giving out SoaS at Software Freedom Day - we have about seventy
 USB keys that have been donated to us by Sun Microsystems for this
 purpose.

 SoaS allows us much easier means of getting Sugar into government too.

 We initially struggled to get SoaS working and found it hard to get
 support from the community. Making SoaS an official project might make
 this easier. It would also be good to have a a clear indication of
 which is the best version for us to hand out to people (we chose
 Strawberry) and which version we should only be testing with.

 Thanks
 Tabitha
 Wellington OLPC and Sugar volunteer group coordinator -
 http://laptop.org.nz
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