Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization
Hi again Gaurav! I suggest that those interested in this topic subscribe to this discussion thread on http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing. I couldn't wait to reference your diagram, so I loaded a copy at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Social_Communication_System.jpg referenced at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization. I suggest we post the graphical tools and elements at the laptop.org wiki so we can take advantage of the wiki extensions there and deploy OLPC-related work there. The Sugar Labs wiki would be the place to continue the broader Sugar-related work. I've started an outline for contributors to start submitting ideas at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization. Note also the work of a team at San Francisco State University, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Information_Systems_Analysis_and_Design_Project, and http://n2.nabble.com/-Marketing--Information-flow-problem-tc2885268.html Thank you again for contributing! On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote: Hi Frederick, I have been a stuck at work off late, will update the wiki with my raw material (icons, etc.) soon. At the same time, it would be good to get ideas from you guys on the categorization and naming of the various collaboration points on the diagram, so by the time I get free, we may have some thoughts on restructuring the diagram I had sent. They could be in a document, a rough flowchart sketch, etc. How do you think we could go about this, and who all can actively contribute to this? Sorry about the delay in posting on the wiki. Will do it by this weekend. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gaurav and all, market...@lists.sugarlabs.org seems like the best place to continue this discussion thread. Thank you all for recognizing the potential in this project. I've started these pages, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization for our combined collaboration. We can take advantage of the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Wiki#ImageMap resource immediately, so please upload the graphic images initially to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Special:Upload. (This project will justify adding the extension to the Sugar Labs wiki soon.) Please contribute content ideas and suggestions here and at either wiki. This will be a good stimulus to visually clarify the tight relationship between OLPC and Sugar Labs as well. Best wishes, --Fred On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gau...@schmizz.netwrote: Hi everyone, Thanks Sameer for forwarding the conversation to me, I was not on the IAEP and Marketing lists so far, just joined. It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive 'map' for the project. David, I would love to work on this further and collaborate with Fred, Christian, Eben and Gary to shape it into an interactive map for the project. My skill sets lie in graphics and visualization, and can help you guys take it to that level with some help in the technical implementation. FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for naming and categorization:) I am keen on making any changes that are needed to the naming and categorization :) I realize it is still very crude, but I think it is in shape now to trigger more ideas amongst you guys as to what it can become, and I am pretty excited about that. I think if we can brainstorm on the structure, naming and categorization and freeze on a model, I can take it forward from there to do a couple of iterations on the icons. Fred, I can share the icons as SVGs, can we create a wiki where we could assemble all our ideas and production material for an interactive map? Also I would like to mention that this poster would not have been possible without the support of Harriet and Amit at the Digital Bridge Foundation, Reliance Communications, Mumbai. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] Project process visualization To: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org Cc: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com, olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org, iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org, gaura...@nid.edu, amit gogna amit.gog...@gmail.com, Harriet Vidyasagar outofin...@gmail.com On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hey Gaurav, The diagram is great! This is what I had originally envisioned for our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org. The best part about the diagram
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization
Hey Gaurav, The diagram is great! This is what I had originally envisioned for our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org. The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work. Yet, individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they can learn more about. It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive 'map' for the project. FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for naming and categorization:) David On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gaurav, I like your visualization of the social communication process for the OLPC project. The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept, the cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the overlap with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed. I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show more detail of a process. For example, we could use such a map to explain and guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools. Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on prototypes and drafts for their processes? We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging concepts in our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a navigational aids. Thank you for your contributions! --Fred On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote: Hi everyone, While I was a student of information design at National Institute of Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem to support the OLPC project in India. I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach. It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if you guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in terms of making it interactive. Regards, Gaurav Bhushan User Experience Design Google, India -- Gaurav Bhushan Information Design National Institute of Design, India ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hey Gaurav, The diagram is great! This is what I had originally envisioned for our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org. The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work. Yet, individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they can learn more about. It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive 'map' for the project. FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for naming and categorization:) David On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gaurav, I like your visualization of the social communication process for the OLPC project. The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept, the cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the overlap with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed. I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show more detail of a process. For example, we could use such a map to explain and guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools. Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on prototypes and drafts for their processes? We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging concepts in our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a navigational aids. Thank you for your contributions! --Fred On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote: Hi everyone, While I was a student of information design at National Institute of Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem to support the OLPC project in India. I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach. It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if you guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in terms of making it interactive. Regards, Gaurav Bhushan User Experience Design Google, India -- Gaurav Bhushan Information Design National Institute of Design, India ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing Hi Gaurav, Its good to finally see your model on the lists here. I'm also quite pleased that you are done with school and are at Google (Hyd I presume?). Congratulations! I saw Gaurav's model last year when I was visiting Reliance/DBF in India - this is the group that did Khairat (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_school). Obviously, Gaurav has put a lot of effort into it. My suggestions were to (1) release it under a CC style license and (2) maybe explore an interface (AJAX or otherwise) that would allow Zoom in and Zoom out of different cycles and levels for big picture and drill down details with explanations and links at each level. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization
Hi everyone, Thanks Sameer for forwarding the conversation to me, I was not on the IAEP and Marketing lists so far, just joined. It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive 'map' for the project. David, I would love to work on this further and collaborate with Fred, Christian, Eben and Gary to shape it into an interactive map for the project. My skill sets lie in graphics and visualization, and can help you guys take it to that level with some help in the technical implementation. FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for naming and categorization:) I am keen on making any changes that are needed to the naming and categorization :) I realize it is still very crude, but I think it is in shape now to trigger more ideas amongst you guys as to what it can become, and I am pretty excited about that. I think if we can brainstorm on the structure, naming and categorization and freeze on a model, I can take it forward from there to do a couple of iterations on the icons. Fred, I can share the icons as SVGs, can we create a wiki where we could assemble all our ideas and production material for an interactive map? Also I would like to mention that this poster would not have been possible without the support of Harriet and Amit at the Digital Bridge Foundation, Reliance Communications, Mumbai. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] Project process visualization To: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org Cc: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com, olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org, iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org, gaura...@nid.edu, amit gogna amit.gog...@gmail.com, Harriet Vidyasagar outofin...@gmail.com On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hey Gaurav, The diagram is great! This is what I had originally envisioned for our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org. The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work. Yet, individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they can learn more about. It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive 'map' for the project. FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for naming and categorization:) David On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gaurav, I like your visualization of the social communication process for the OLPC project. The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept, the cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the overlap with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed. I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show more detail of a process. For example, we could use such a map to explain and guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools. Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on prototypes and drafts for their processes? We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging concepts in our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a navigational aids. Thank you for your contributions! --Fred On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote: Hi everyone, While I was a student of information design at National Institute of Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem to support the OLPC project in India. I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach. It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if you guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in terms of making it interactive. Regards, Gaurav Bhushan User Experience Design Google, India -- Gaurav Bhushan Information Design National Institute of Design, India ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing Hi Gaurav, Its good to finally see your model on the