Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-14 Thread Frederick Grose
Hi again Gaurav!
I suggest that those interested in this topic subscribe to this discussion
thread on http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing.

I couldn't wait to reference your diagram, so I loaded a copy at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Social_Communication_System.jpg
referenced at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization and
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization.

I suggest we post the graphical tools and elements at the laptop.org wiki so
we can take advantage of the wiki extensions there and deploy OLPC-related
work there.  The Sugar Labs wiki would be the place to continue the broader
Sugar-related work.

I've started an outline for contributors to start submitting ideas at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization.

Note also the work of a team at San Francisco State University,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Information_Systems_Analysis_and_Design_Project,
and http://n2.nabble.com/-Marketing--Information-flow-problem-tc2885268.html

Thank you again for contributing!


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote:

 Hi Frederick,
 I have been a stuck at work off late, will update the wiki with my raw
 material (icons, etc.) soon.

 At the same time, it would be good to get ideas from you guys on the
 categorization and naming of the various collaboration points on the
 diagram, so by the time I get free, we may have some thoughts
 on restructuring the diagram I had sent. They could be in a document, a
 rough flowchart sketch, etc.

 How do you think we could go about this, and who all can actively
 contribute to this?

 Sorry about the delay in posting on the wiki. Will do it by this weekend.

 Regards,
 Gaurav

 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Gaurav and all,
 market...@lists.sugarlabs.org seems like the best place to continue this
 discussion thread.

 Thank you all for recognizing the potential in this project.

 I've started these pages,
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Project_Visualization, 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_visualization for our combined
 collaboration.

 We can take advantage of the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Wiki#ImageMap 
 resource
 immediately, so please upload the graphic images initially to
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Special:Upload.  (This project will justify
 adding the extension to the Sugar Labs wiki soon.)

 Please contribute content ideas and suggestions here and at either wiki.
  This will be a good stimulus to visually clarify the tight relationship
 between OLPC and Sugar Labs as well.

 Best wishes, --Fred



 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gau...@schmizz.netwrote:

 Hi everyone,
 Thanks Sameer for forwarding the conversation to me, I was not on the
 IAEP and Marketing lists so far, just joined.

  It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary
  and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive
  'map' for the project.

 David, I would love to work on this further and collaborate with Fred,
 Christian, Eben and Gary to shape it into an interactive map for the
 project. My skill sets lie in graphics and visualization, and can help you
 guys take it to that level with some help in the technical implementation.

  FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for
  naming and categorization:)

 I am keen on making any changes that are needed to the naming and
 categorization :) I realize it is still very crude, but I think it is in
 shape now to trigger more ideas amongst you guys as to what it can become,
 and I am pretty excited about that.

 I think if we can brainstorm on the structure, naming and categorization
 and freeze on a model, I can take it forward from there to do a couple of
 iterations on the icons. Fred, I can share the icons as SVGs, can we create
 a wiki where we could assemble all our ideas and production material for an
 interactive map?

 Also I would like to mention that this poster would not have been
 possible without the support of Harriet and Amit at the Digital Bridge
 Foundation, Reliance Communications, Mumbai.

  Regards,
 Gaurav

 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu
 Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] Project process visualization
 To: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
 Cc: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com, olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org,
 iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org,
 gaura...@nid.edu, amit gogna amit.gog...@gmail.com, Harriet
 Vidyasagar outofin...@gmail.com


 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
  Hey Gaurav,
 
  The diagram is great!  This is what I had originally envisioned for
  our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org.
 
  The best part about the diagram 

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-05 Thread David Farning
Hey Gaurav,

The diagram is great!  This is what I had originally envisioned for
our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org.

The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the
different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work.  Yet,
individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they
can learn more about.

It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary
and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive
'map' for the project.

FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for
naming and categorization:)

David

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Gaurav,
 I like your visualization of the social communication process for the
 OLPC project.  The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept, the
 cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the overlap
 with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed.
 I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show more
 detail of a process.  For example, we could use such a map to explain and
 guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools.
 Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on
 prototypes and drafts for their processes?
 We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging concepts in
 our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a navigational
 aids.
 Thank you for your contributions!
        --Fred
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 While I was a student of information design at National Institute of
 Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem to
 support the OLPC project in India.

 I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger
 advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach.

 It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if you
 guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in terms
 of making it interactive.

 Regards,
 Gaurav Bhushan
 User Experience Design
 Google, India

 --
 Gaurav Bhushan
 Information Design
 National Institute of Design, India


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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-05 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Hey Gaurav,

 The diagram is great!  This is what I had originally envisioned for
 our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org.

 The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the
 different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work.  Yet,
 individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they
 can learn more about.

 It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary
 and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive
 'map' for the project.

 FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for
 naming and categorization:)

 David

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Gaurav,
 I like your visualization of the social communication process for the
 OLPC project.  The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept, the
 cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the overlap
 with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed.
 I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show more
 detail of a process.  For example, we could use such a map to explain and
 guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools.
 Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on
 prototypes and drafts for their processes?
 We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging concepts in
 our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a navigational
 aids.
 Thank you for your contributions!
        --Fred
 On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 While I was a student of information design at National Institute of
 Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem to
 support the OLPC project in India.

 I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger
 advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach.

 It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if you
 guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in terms
 of making it interactive.

 Regards,
 Gaurav Bhushan
 User Experience Design
 Google, India

 --
 Gaurav Bhushan
 Information Design
 National Institute of Design, India


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Hi Gaurav,

Its good to finally see your model on the lists here. I'm also quite
pleased that you are done with school and are at Google (Hyd I
presume?). Congratulations!

I saw Gaurav's model last year when I was visiting Reliance/DBF in
India - this is the group that did Khairat
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Khairat_school). Obviously, Gaurav has put
a lot of effort into it. My suggestions were to (1) release it under a
CC style license and (2) maybe explore an interface (AJAX or
otherwise) that would allow Zoom in and Zoom out of different
cycles and levels for big picture and drill down details with
explanations and links at each level.

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Information Systems
San Francisco State University
San Francisco CA 94132 USA
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Project process visualization

2009-05-05 Thread Gaurav Bhushan
Hi everyone,
Thanks Sameer for forwarding the conversation to me, I was not on the IAEP
and Marketing lists so far, just joined.

 It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary
 and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive
 'map' for the project.

David, I would love to work on this further and collaborate with Fred,
Christian, Eben and Gary to shape it into an interactive map for the
project. My skill sets lie in graphics and visualization, and can help you
guys take it to that level with some help in the technical implementation.

 FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for
 naming and categorization:)

I am keen on making any changes that are needed to the naming and
categorization :) I realize it is still very crude, but I think it is in
shape now to trigger more ideas amongst you guys as to what it can become,
and I am pretty excited about that.

I think if we can brainstorm on the structure, naming and categorization and
freeze on a model, I can take it forward from there to do a couple of
iterations on the icons. Fred, I can share the icons as SVGs, can we create
a wiki where we could assemble all our ideas and production material for an
interactive map?

Also I would like to mention that this poster would not have been possible
without the support of Harriet and Amit at the Digital Bridge Foundation,
Reliance Communications, Mumbai.

Regards,
Gaurav

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu
 Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] Project process visualization
 To: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
 Cc: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com, olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org,
 iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org,
 gaura...@nid.edu, amit gogna amit.gog...@gmail.com, Harriet Vidyasagar 
 outofin...@gmail.com


 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:55 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
  Hey Gaurav,
 
  The diagram is great!  This is what I had originally envisioned for
  our getting started page on the [www|wiki].sugarlabs.org.
 
  The best part about the diagram is how it communicates how all of the
  different pieces fit together to make the ecosystem work.  Yet,
  individuals can drill down to specific , manageable, areas which they
  can learn more about.
 
  It would be great if you could work with Fred, Christian, Eben, Gary
  and the rest of the wiki/web guy to create this into an interactive
  'map' for the project.
 
  FWIW, this rest of us will likely kibitz loudly about your choices for
  naming and categorization:)
 
  David
 
  On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi Gaurav,
  I like your visualization of the social communication process for the
  OLPC project.  The icons are simple and fun to associate with a concept,
 the
  cycles nicely emphasize the iteration needed in all domains, and the
 overlap
  with intersections demonstrate the coordination that is needed.
  I can imagine versions where nodes would be expanded in subsets to show
 more
  detail of a process.  For example, we could use such a map to explain
 and
  guide newcomers to the software development cycle and community tools.
  Could you share the icons and tools you used to allow others to work on
  prototypes and drafts for their processes?
  We could start using more of these and similar icons for tagging
 concepts in
  our wikis and Sweet software, and we could use the maps as a
 navigational
  aids.
  Thank you for your contributions!
 --Fred
  On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Gaurav Bhushan gaura...@nid.edu
 wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  While I was a student of information design at National Institute of
  Design, India, I worked on brainstorming and visualizing an ecosystem
 to
  support the OLPC project in India.
 
  I am attaching a poster representing the same. The idea was to trigger
  advocacy among key players in Education, Technology and Outreach.
 
  It is still very crude, and I can take out more time to work on it if
 you
  guys have some feedback and inputs. I feel a lot more can be done in
 terms
  of making it interactive.
 
  Regards,
  Gaurav Bhushan
  User Experience Design
  Google, India
 
  --
  Gaurav Bhushan
  Information Design
  National Institute of Design, India
 
 
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 Hi Gaurav,

 Its good to finally see your model on the