Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Also it suffers from not being able to work in a web page or on an mobile device which is what most people want to do. No scratch.. no python.. the future: html5 And Html6 and perhaps Back to the Future with Lively Kernelhttp://lively-kernel.org/:) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
And maybe in the sugar-devel you can obtain more ideas.. Or in IAEP.. From: alan...@hotmail.com To: andry...@gmail.com; olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:29:54 + Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, Maybe develop an activity to explain the parts of the eye.. There are some activitys called Conozco thatallow make simple question about an image.The usual uses: geography; where is the city where born ? And the answer, click on a city.The same code can be used to this activity with minor changes.An example of the geography use: I know America [1]Another use: health food Conozco Alimentos [2] Another idea: make a vision test. With random letters (to evite that the childrens memorize the letters)you put the XO to a some distance, and ask for the first line (0.2 or similar) and continues with smallletters. Regards! Alan [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4464[2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4324 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:19:16 -0500 From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? -- AAA ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
What would also, be good would be tests included in the activity to help detect color blindness, dyslexia and other common vision issues that affect kids ability to read/learn. My one son had a hard time learning to read and it took us a while to find a doctor who could diagnose the issue. Turns out he would occasionally see two fingers when we held up one and things would sometimes shake. He was bright otherwise so he had coping mechanisms, but it would have been good to catch this earlier, as there were a simple set of exercises that helped correct the issues and improve his reading. Stephen On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: And maybe in the sugar-devel you can obtain more ideas.. Or in IAEP.. -- From: alan...@hotmail.com To: andry...@gmail.com; olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:29:54 + Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, Maybe develop an activity to explain the parts of the eye.. There are some activitys called Conozco that allow make simple question about an image. The usual uses: geography; where is the city where born ? And the answer, click on a city. The same code can be used to this activity with minor changes. An example of the geography use: I know America [1] Another use: health food Conozco Alimentos [2] Another idea: make a vision test. With random letters (to evite that the childrens memorize the letters) you put the XO to a some distance, and ask for the first line (0.2 or similar) and continues with small letters. Regards! Alan [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4464 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4324 -- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:19:16 -0500 From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? -- AAA ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
help detect color blindness, dyslexia and other common vision issue +1 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:53:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: andry...@gmail.com; olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org What would also, be good would be tests included in the activity to help detect color blindness, dyslexia and other common vision issues that affect kids ability to read/learn. My one son had a hard time learning to read and it took us a while to find a doctor who could diagnose the issue. Turns out he would occasionally see two fingers when we held up one and things would sometimes shake. He was bright otherwise so he had coping mechanisms, but it would have been good to catch this earlier, as there were a simple set of exercises that helped correct the issues and improve his reading. Stephen On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: And maybe in the sugar-devel you can obtain more ideas.. Or in IAEP.. From: alan...@hotmail.com To: andry...@gmail.com; olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:29:54 + Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, Maybe develop an activity to explain the parts of the eye.. There are some activitys called Conozco thatallow make simple question about an image. The usual uses: geography; where is the city where born ? And the answer, click on a city.The same code can be used to this activity with minor changes.An example of the geography use: I know America [1] Another use: health food Conozco Alimentos [2] Another idea: make a vision test. With random letters (to evite that the childrens memorize the letters)you put the XO to a some distance, and ask for the first line (0.2 or similar) and continues with small letters. Regards! Alan [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4464 [2] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4324 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:19:16 -0500 From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? -- AAA ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: I know the Eye and use asimilar image to this: (search: eye anatomy) External: (muscleds, etc) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg And internal: http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license). Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500 From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: andry...@gmail.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
For images of the eye under CC-BY-SA, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eye On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: I know the Eye and use a similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy) External: (muscleds, etc) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg And internal: http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license). Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500 From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: andry...@gmail.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
Thanks! Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 01:01:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] [IAEP] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity From: moku...@sugarlabs.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: sthom...@gosargon.com; andry...@gmail.com; olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org For images of the eye under CC-BY-SA, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eye On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: I know the Eye and use a similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy) External: (muscleds, etc) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg And internal: http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license). Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500 From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: andry...@gmail.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back and if there was some interest in this I'd look to build a more robust case and inquire more deeply into whether the company would be willing to put some resources behind this. Is there anyone on this distribution list that would be able to point me in the right direction? I would suggest taking a look at the accumulated notes and links on these pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vision_screening http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Visual_Acuity cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Olpc-open mailing list olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
Alan, So to quote your namesake *A change in perspective is worth 80 IQ points.* So let me see if I can change your perspective on Etoys. I just created a simple lesson in Etoys such as you described in about 10-15 minutes, most of that time was spent trying to find a good open source image of the eye (I used the one from WIkipedia which you may want to look at if you would like to take the Quiz I just developed). Here is the You Tube video of why Etoys rocks and howhttp://youtu.be/mqbnJG1dgkA I created the quiz with 5 lines of code an image, a holder and two text objects. You can put the lesson on a USB stuck and it will run on any Mac, PC and Linux, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms. No libraries to load or special drivers needed. Now of course perhaps this could be done quicker or more cost effectively in python :D Cheers, Stephen Below is a more full quote from Alan on IQ: Q - What if you had an IQ of 500, but were born in 10,000 BC. You would not be able to make a lot of progress. For example, Leonardo was very smart but couldn't come up with the engines his vehicle designs needed in order to work -- he was born in the wrong century for what he wanted to do. Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was able to combine engineering and production inventions to make millions of inexpensive automobiles. Outlook - what made Henry Ford powerful (and most other things today) was an enormous change in Outlook (you called it a paradigm shift) which we can symbolize by invoking Newton. Knowledge is Silver, but Outlook is Gold (IQ is Lead ... because most worthwhile problems we want to work on and solve are beyond mere IQ) In other words, most human cultures accumulate and use a lot of knowledge (this is what a culture is all about) that is used to survive, to accommodate to the environment and even sometimes thrive. But the knowledge of a traditional society is very different from that of a feudal society which in turn is very different from a technological scientifically based society. The bug most people have about schools (including many who set up schools) is the idea that they are there to teach knowledge. (Not a bad secondary goal, but it's a very bad idea for it to be the main goal.) Montessori was an early voice who pointed out that the main purpose of schooling (especially early schooling) was to help students learn and deeply internalize the most powerful outlooks that have been discovered/invented by humans. She observed that otherwise children wind up living in the 20th century but with a 10th century (or much earlier) outlook ... On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: I know the Eye and use a similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy) External: (muscleds, etc) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg And internal: http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license). -- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500 From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: andry...@gmail.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering if there was any need for material on healthy vision or perhaps an interactive eye model to teach children about the different parts of the eye. It could be anything in this realm really - the sky is the limit. My company is constantly looking for ways to give back
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity
Spelling correction: You can put the lesson on a USB stick and it will run on any Mac, PC or Linux box, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote: Alan, So to quote your namesake *A change in perspective is worth 80 IQ points.* So let me see if I can change your perspective on Etoys. I just created a simple lesson in Etoys such as you described in about 10-15 minutes, most of that time was spent trying to find a good open source image of the eye (I used the one from WIkipedia which you may want to look at if you would like to take the Quiz I just developed). Here is the You Tube video of why Etoys rocks and howhttp://youtu.be/mqbnJG1dgkA I created the quiz with 5 lines of code an image, a holder and two text objects. You can put the lesson on a USB stuck and it will run on any Mac, PC and Linux, because the code is Byte identical for all platforms. No libraries to load or special drivers needed. Now of course perhaps this could be done quicker or more cost effectively in python :D Cheers, Stephen Below is a more full quote from Alan on IQ: Q - What if you had an IQ of 500, but were born in 10,000 BC. You would not be able to make a lot of progress. For example, Leonardo was very smart but couldn't come up with the engines his vehicle designs needed in order to work -- he was born in the wrong century for what he wanted to do. Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was able to combine engineering and production inventions to make millions of inexpensive automobiles. Outlook - what made Henry Ford powerful (and most other things today) was an enormous change in Outlook (you called it a paradigm shift) which we can symbolize by invoking Newton. Knowledge is Silver, but Outlook is Gold (IQ is Lead ... because most worthwhile problems we want to work on and solve are beyond mere IQ) In other words, most human cultures accumulate and use a lot of knowledge (this is what a culture is all about) that is used to survive, to accommodate to the environment and even sometimes thrive. But the knowledge of a traditional society is very different from that of a feudal society which in turn is very different from a technological scientifically based society. The bug most people have about schools (including many who set up schools) is the idea that they are there to teach knowledge. (Not a bad secondary goal, but it's a very bad idea for it to be the main goal.) Montessori was an early voice who pointed out that the main purpose of schooling (especially early schooling) was to help students learn and deeply internalize the most powerful outlooks that have been discovered/invented by humans. She observed that otherwise children wind up living in the 20th century but with a 10th century (or much earlier) outlook ... On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm not sure why, but I not like much Etoys (with all my respect to my namesake Alan Kay :-) I prefer a pure-python activity. For example, a first activity could be: I know the Eye and use a similar image to this: (search: eye anatomy) External: (muscleds, etc) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-x4oGiQWiUA/TMP2dRqClBI/AGY/PuehgCY8WJM/s1600/eye+anatomy+2.jpg And internal: http://www.floridaeyeclinic.com/images/aao-G04-large.jpg The first problem is obtain a good image (CC creative commons or similiar free license). -- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:31:15 -0500 From: sthom...@gosargon.com To: andry...@gmail.com CC: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org; alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Alan, If you have the materials (images, test, knowledge, etc.) I would be happy to work with you to create some materials in Etoys that could help educate folks about the eye and more importantly detect vision problems and provide suggestions and resources on how to deal with them. If you send me some materials I can put something together in Etoys fairly quickly. It would be available to all OLPC XO's and because its Etoys, it can also run on Windows, Mac and Linux (with no code changes). If it works for both of us, we could put together some quick prototypes to help build a more robust case. Stephen On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: From: andry...@gmail.com To: olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Olpc-open] Healthcare - Potential Opportunity Hello, I'm new to this venue but am looking to contribute and/or determine if I might have some material that would benefit the community. I work for a healthcare company that specializes in vision and was wondering
