Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:14:23 -0700,
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
 
 At Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:56:03 +0200,
 Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
  
  What about the clock in Etoys?
 
   Are you asking the maintainer of the clock done in Etoys?  That
 one has more complicated eye candy but a teacher or a helper of the
 teacher should make one in 10 minutes or so.
 
   However, my point of making that clock was that each kid should make
 one to understand it.

  At the Squeakfest Brasil conference, Kathleen Smith conducted a
tutorial session to make a clock in Etoys.  Dozens of teachers from
Brazil, Uruguay, Peru, etc. attended and making their own clocks.  So
hopefully the idea spreads in the continent...

-- Yoshiki

I don't subscribe the olpc-sur list.  Please forward this to the list
and connect the original person to these Squeakfest attendees.
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Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-25 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:55:53 -0300,
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
 
 At Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:14:23 -0700,
 Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
  
  At Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:56:03 +0200,
  Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
   
   What about the clock in Etoys?
  
Are you asking the maintainer of the clock done in Etoys?  That
  one has more complicated eye candy but a teacher or a helper of the
  teacher should make one in 10 minutes or so.
  
However, my point of making that clock was that each kid should make
  one to understand it.
 
   At the Squeakfest Brasil conference, Kathleen Smith conducted a
 tutorial session to make a clock in Etoys.  Dozens of teachers from
 Brazil, Uruguay, Peru, etc. attended and making their own clocks.  So
 hopefully the idea spreads in the continent...

  One more thing...

  In my version, I sort of cheated and used the premade digital clock
object that is available in the Object Catalog-Just for Fun to get
the system clock.  If you just need to know the current time, you can
pull out the object from catalog.  Also, in various ways, you can
come up with more arithmetic tricks to teach.

-- Yoshiki
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Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-20 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:56:03 +0200,
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 
 What about the clock in Etoys?

  Are you asking the maintainer of the clock done in Etoys?  That
one has more complicated eye candy but a teacher or a helper of the
teacher should make one in 10 minutes or so.

  However, my point of making that clock was that each kid should make
one to understand it.

-- Yoshiki
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Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-20 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Monday 20 Jul 2009 10:44:23 pm Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
 However, my point of making that clock was that each kid should make
 one to understand it.
An objective tick-tock is just one way to understand time. It is the kronos 
time. However, the round clock face stood for a different concept of time - 
time as an interval between events. This is a much more interesting story to 
play out in Etoys.

The 12 divisions of a day (and twelve of night) trace back to the need for 
farmers to predict onset of annual rainy season. Rain leads to floods in the 
river depositing rich silt along the banks (and ground water) to raise crops. 
There are approximately 12 full moons between one Rainy season to another and 
approximately 30 sun rises between two full moons. The same divisions were 
also applied to day and night. Some cultures (like India) divided day and 
night into 30 slots each (or 60 slots total) while others divided them into 12 
slots each (24 total) and further into 60 minute slices. Some (like 
Babylonians) divided both day and night into 12 slots. These divisions allowed 
one reckon and predict the onset of rains. The numbers 12, 24, 30, 60 and 360  
became important in math. We continue to divide a circle into 360 degrees 
(12x30) to this day.

The word time itself is from a root word meaning 'to slice, to cut'. The Greek 
word, kairos  means both weather and opportune time. The Sanskrit word for 
year (varsha) also means rain.  Many words in our daily use are tied to this 
concept of time (hour, minute, temporary, noon, meal, siesta, tide).

Of course, 12 moons per year is approximate so an 'extra moon' is added every 
few years to catch up. This year is one of them, so it is a good opportunity 
to learn about  'blue moon'.

Subbu
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Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Paola asks in olpc-sur about adding to the Clock activity the
capability of changing the time. Don't know who is the maintainer of
the Clock activity, thus sending this email to IAEP.

What about the clock in Etoys?

Regards,

Tomeu

2009/7/18 Paola Bruccoleri pbruccol...@adinet.com.uy:
 Hola..
 hoy estuve con unas maestras a las que le había
 recomendado esta actividad, y que viene muy bien
 a los niños cuando están aprendiendo la hora,
 pero me comentaron que sería de mayor utilidad
 aún si se pudiera modificar la hora y de esa manera poder hacer ejericios.
 chauuu


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Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-18 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu,

On 18 Jul 2009, at 10:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 Paola asks in olpc-sur about adding to the Clock activity the
 capability of changing the time. Don't know who is the maintainer of
 the Clock activity, thus sending this email to IAEP.

It's another Sugar Labs adoptee Activity I'm maintaining now. At the  
moment it is designed to display and/or speak out the current real  
time in a number of different formats.

By changing the time does Paola intend this like a system control  
module type thing, changing the physical laptop time? Or is it for the  
child to move the hands about and print/speak the different times?  
Kind of, Teacher says make it 11:30, everyone sets the hands of the  
clock face and then shows the teacher.

Regards,
--Gary

P.S. There is also a GCompris ClockGame on activities.SL.org, but I've  
not tried it myself yet.

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4112
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Re: [IAEP] [Sur] sugerencia para actividad clock

2009-07-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 16:20, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 Hi Tomeu,

 On 18 Jul 2009, at 10:56, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

 Paola asks in olpc-sur about adding to the Clock activity the
 capability of changing the time. Don't know who is the maintainer of
 the Clock activity, thus sending this email to IAEP.

 It's another Sugar Labs adoptee Activity I'm maintaining now. At the moment
 it is designed to display and/or speak out the current real time in a number
 of different formats.

 By changing the time does Paola intend this like a system control module
 type thing, changing the physical laptop time? Or is it for the child to
 move the hands about and print/speak the different times? Kind of, Teacher
 says make it 11:30, everyone sets the hands of the clock face and then shows
 the teacher.

From my understanding of the original email, I think the latter.

 Regards,
 --Gary

 P.S. There is also a GCompris ClockGame on activities.SL.org, but I've not
 tried it myself yet.

         http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4112

Paola, puedes probar esta actividad y ver si funciona en la version de
Sugar usada en Uruguay?

Gracias/Thanks,

Tomeu
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