[IAEP] Sugar on Android (was Questions for SCaLE 11X)
On 2/21/13, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: The Sugar Labs Oversight Board confirmed Android compatibility as a strategic goal at the January 14 meeting [1]... 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2013-01-14 Thanks, Sean. You're the best! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android (was Questions for SCaLE 11X)
On 21 February 2013 09:35, Ron Feigenblatt doc...@gmail.com wrote: The big news is that OLPC reports potential buyers have expressed interest in Android, so it has a plan to move the XO-4 that way by YE2013. This poses an implicit challenge to Sugar Labs, namely, could Sugar sit on top of Android rather than Linux Fedora by then? I think that's never going to happen unless we come up with a plan. There have been a couple of isolated efforts that would lead there at some point, but I'm not aware of even a discussion about it on the devel mailing list. It's not going to be trivial at all. I have my strong opinions about how we should get there and I've been posting on sugar-devel about the work I'm doing. But other approaches are possible. I just hope people will realize that it's urgent to do something about this and that we need with a concerted effort. It's not going to magically happen :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar on Android (was Questions for SCaLE 11X)
On 21 February 2013 09:35, Ron Feigenblatt doc...@gmail.com wrote: The big news is that OLPC reports potential buyers have expressed interest in Android, so it has a plan to move the XO-4 that way... could Sugar sit on top of Android rather than Linux Fedora by then? On 2/21/13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's never going to happen unless we come up with a plan. ... I just hope people will realize that it's urgent to do something about this... Let me hazard mockery by citing a very obvious incentive to getting Sugar to run on Android. If Sugar could be an Android .apk, it could not merely run on some future Android-based OLPC, but on over a million new devices EVERY DAY, closing in on a total of a billion - and be trivial to install in the bargain. Isn't that worth lots more attention than a million Raspberry Pi's, which aren't even full appliances, but merely boards mainly of interest to DIY embedded system guys? Moving to Android would also address OLPC's new Android-tablet line. (Perhaps one might even partner with profit-seeking hardware keyboard aftermarket vendors, by encouraging them to conceptually bundle Sugar.) The game console market has been off-limits to Sugar due to large developer license fees. But what if an Android-based project like the Ouya (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya ), with zero fees, can prove successful? On the other hand, with limited developer staffing, maybe Sugar Labs should just dig in its heels and concentrate on supporting the nearly 3 million units to which the educational systems of at least two nations have made deep and expensive commitments. Few things have given the information technology industry a worse name than the rate at which it often tries to force users to migrate away from legacy systems, rather than perfect their flaws. The REALLY BIG CHANGE is not from one electronic learning system to a newer one, but from one based on printed matter, blank paper and pencils, to one based on electronics - thereby enabling audio, animation, photography, interactivity, zero-inventory-zero-unit-cost courseware, and total portability. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android (was Questions for SCaLE 11X)
The Sugar Labs Oversight Board confirmed Android compatibility as a strategic goal at the January 14 meeting [1]. It goes without saying that this is far easier said than done. There are several technical approaches possible, and coming to a decision how to proceed is itself a challenge. Sean. 1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2013-01-14 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ron Feigenblatt doc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 February 2013 09:35, Ron Feigenblatt doc...@gmail.com wrote: The big news is that OLPC reports potential buyers have expressed interest in Android, so it has a plan to move the XO-4 that way... could Sugar sit on top of Android rather than Linux Fedora by then? On 2/21/13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's never going to happen unless we come up with a plan. ... I just hope people will realize that it's urgent to do something about this... Let me hazard mockery by citing a very obvious incentive to getting Sugar to run on Android. If Sugar could be an Android .apk, it could not merely run on some future Android-based OLPC, but on over a million new devices EVERY DAY, closing in on a total of a billion - and be trivial to install in the bargain. Isn't that worth lots more attention than a million Raspberry Pi's, which aren't even full appliances, but merely boards mainly of interest to DIY embedded system guys? Moving to Android would also address OLPC's new Android-tablet line. (Perhaps one might even partner with profit-seeking hardware keyboard aftermarket vendors, by encouraging them to conceptually bundle Sugar.) The game console market has been off-limits to Sugar due to large developer license fees. But what if an Android-based project like the Ouya (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya ), with zero fees, can prove successful? On the other hand, with limited developer staffing, maybe Sugar Labs should just dig in its heels and concentrate on supporting the nearly 3 million units to which the educational systems of at least two nations have made deep and expensive commitments. Few things have given the information technology industry a worse name than the rate at which it often tries to force users to migrate away from legacy systems, rather than perfect their flaws. The REALLY BIG CHANGE is not from one electronic learning system to a newer one, but from one based on printed matter, blank paper and pencils, to one based on electronics - thereby enabling audio, animation, photography, interactivity, zero-inventory-zero-unit-cost courseware, and total portability. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
