Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-07-22 Thread Adam Holt
Alex & Walter, I can come by Walter's office if nec in coming weeks, to arrange shipping to Alex etc? Adam On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Alex Perez wrote: > >> Walter, >> >> On

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-07-22 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Alex Perez wrote: > Walter, > > On 2016-06-13 15:02:02 +, Walter Bender said: > > Off the top of my head, the bulk chargers do 10 batteries at a time. I >> have two to donate to a large order. >> > > Well, I bought the lot of these,

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-07-21 Thread Alex Perez
Walter, On 2016-06-13 15:02:02 +, Walter Bender said: Off the top of my head, the bulk chargers do 10 batteries at a time. I have two to donate to a large order. Well, I bought the lot of these, and, in addition, another ~90 units, which have various cosmetic issues, such as damaged

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2016-06-13 19:05 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender : > >> I have to say I with Samuel Greenfeld on this one. There are lots of >> potential issues with these machines (depending upon how they have

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 09:00, Dave Crossland wrote: > Do we want these or not? :) > I guess not! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-18 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-13 19:05 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender : > I have to say I with Samuel Greenfeld on this one. There are lots of > potential issues with these machines (depending upon how they have been > stored and maintained.) They could well have dead batteries (both the main >

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > the IAEP list: It's an educational project, remember. Sorry Jonas, I was thinking of you and others when I moved the discussion to the Marketing list. Sean. ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 15:14:32) > On 16 June 2016 at 09:16, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 14:48:56) >>> I think this is a really important discussion for the wider >>> community, as it relates to the future/vision topic :) >> >> It is

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 09:16, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 14:48:56) > > I think this is a really important discussion for the wider community, > > as it relates to the future/vision topic :) > > It is very very rarely sensible to cross-post. Less so

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Do we want these or not? :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: 16 June 2016 at 02:09 Subject: Re: [UKids] Unleash Kids / KOC trip to rescue laptops - April To: Dave Crossland , Alex Perez Cc: Unleash Kids!

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 12:09, Sean DALY wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> > >>> A brand that is not being diluted is stale, rigid, dying. > >> > >> I

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-14 Thread Sean DALY
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > A brand that is not being diluted is stale, rigid, dying. I completely disagree, but it doesn't matter. Sean. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 09:16, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> > That color combination has been very widely copied, even today. >> >> I think the amount of copying ought to be seen as a metrics of success >> for a

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-14 Thread Sean DALY
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > That color combination has been very widely copied, even today. > > I think the amount of copying ought to be seen as a metrics of success > for a brand. > Sure, except it dilutes the brand. > > > > which is why I

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 05:14, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> The green case is probably the most important thing, I think, because >> of that brand equity > > The green and white case (perhaps with a "crank

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 13 June 2016 at 22:06, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > I do not believe we would get significant new traction by trying to sell > XO-1s. Please enumerate why you think this. Would XO-4s be any better? > If we truly are going to force end of support in 2020, we should

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Having thought about this a bit more since this morning, I believe the best course of action would be to ask the recycler to directly donate the XO-1s to one or more projects which already accept them on a donation basis. These include the Columbus School for Girls (http://csgolpc.weebly.com/ ),

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 17:16, Sean DALY wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> what do you see as the difference in terms of sugar feedback? > > Students not using their native language, teachers at far lower level, > daunting

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > what do you see as the difference in terms of sugar feedback? Students not using their native language, teachers at far lower level, daunting infrastructure difficulties which mean limited laptop time, very limited

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 13:52, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > I think if you tell the sponsor you want a stash to sell them, they'll be > more than happy to keep them to sell for themselves. I doubt it - due to the labour costs you describe below :) > What Walter and I are getting

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I think if you tell the sponsor you want a stash to sell them, they'll be more than happy to keep them to sell for themselves. What Walter and I are getting at is that is servicing & reshipping 172 XOs (even if they come with 254 chargers + extra batteries) takes a lot more work than you may

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 04:19, Sam Parkinson wrote: > $100 seems steep for an XO1. We could also offer a 100% buy-back scheme to get them back if they aren't used regularly, and various discounts up to 100% for developers who want to pay $0 but are actively contributing. >

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 11:54, Sean DALY wrote: > What duplication? An island fishing community with a single one-room > school is quite a different place from an American classroom I think there's probably more education going on in the former, but what do you see as the

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Its a big market. OK, if I understand you correctly, your idea is to recruit Sugar developers by selling them XO-1s individually? This would be more efficient than engaging a computer science professor with a class,

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > OLPC France has managed the Nosy Komba, Madagascar microdeployment for > years > > now in partnership with other NGOs and the learnings have been fantastic. > > Great! No need to duplicate that :) What duplication? An

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Walter Bender
Off the top of my head, the bulk chargers do 10 batteries at a time. I have two to donate to a large order. -walter On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > On 13 June 2016 at 04:07, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:53

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 13 June 2016 at 04:07, Sean DALY wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam > wrote: >> >> Hi, i think this is a good idea, but i don't think buying and selling to >> make profit is part of SL's agenda. I'm i wrong? > > If

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 07:05, Walter Bender wrote: > Google just donated 8000 chromebooks to the X-Prize. Maybe we could try to > go that route? Well, are we supporting XO-1s in the next 3 releases or not? If we are, I think people get EXCITED about 'the little green $100

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Walter Bender
I have to say I with Samuel Greenfeld on this one. There are lots of potential issues with these machines (depending upon how they have been stored and maintained.) They could well have dead batteries (both the main battery and the battery for the RTC). They most certainly will need an investment

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
they mean loading dock i.e. where you send the truck Sean On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Dave, I don't frequent EBay listings, but it says: > > > Customer is responsible for arrangement of freight trucking pickup and > insurance from our

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sam Parkinson
Dave, I don't frequent EBay listings, but it says: > Customer is responsible for arrangement of freight trucking pickup and insurance from our dock Is that referring to the charging docks or the palette of laptops? Obviously this is a small detail that doesn't effect the discussion, but it

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sam Parkinson
Hi Dave, They are XO1s... does Sugar run OK on the XO1? $100 seems steep for an XO1. In the USA, apparently less than $100 yeilds you a "tablet" from "Walmart" (can't vouch for anything... just searched it on the net) [1]. Maybe sell it for less? Or try $100 and see if we need to go

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam < ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, i think this is a good idea, but i don't think buying and selling to > make profit is part of SL's agenda. I'm i wrong? If proceeds from the sale(s) benefit the organization and not individuals,

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
Hi, i think this is a good idea, but i don't think buying and selling to make profit is part of SL's agenda. I'm i wrong? On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > >

[IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qty-172-OLPC-One-Laptop-Per-Child-XO-1-w-7-5-TFT-256MB-RAM-1024KB-ROM-/262478690514 I propose that Sugar Labs buy these, image them with the 0.110 release, and sale them to raise funds; individual units regularly clear $100 each, so this will raise around $13,000 --