Re: [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all,

Let me finalize this What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/etc
discussion :)

New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections

I think we can move tags GCompris and Fructose(Core, etc) to collections
moreover every user/deployer/editor could create theirs own collections.

Is it the way to go?

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:50:31AM -0500, James Simmons wrote:
 The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me 
 about the design of the site from the beginning.  The site does not do a 
 good job of showing just how much is available.  When you click on a 
 category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly picked 
 at random, and no indication that these Activities are not the only ones 
 available in the category.  Yes, there is a link to show everything in 
 the category.  It's not that you can't find anything if you really want 
 to.  It's that the site doesn't do a good job of selling what it has.
 
 What I would suggest is to put totals for each category in a prominent 
 place on the page.  When you first come into the site and no category is 
 selected you should see something like 500 Great Activities 
 Available!  Choose a category like Documents and the line would read 
 10 Activities In This Category.
 
 The other thing that has bugged me is the Recommended Activities.  We 
 need to put more thought into what gets recommended.  Currently one of 
 the Activities that is recommended is Read.  Now an XO owner or SoaS 
 user already has Read, so why recommend it?  Is there some reason I 
 should remove the Read I already have and install this one?
 
 Recommended Activities should promote Sugar.  They should meet the 
 following criteria:
 
 1).  Fairly robust.
 2).  Not included by default with anything.
 3).  Should do something interesting.  Think of the iPhone commercials 
 that show all the apps that are available.  Why not recommend something 
 like Food Force or Story Builder?
 
 I also question the category GCompris.  I understand these Activities 
 are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful 
 to a teacher or a student.
 
 A little salesmanship could go a long way in making this site better.
 
 James Simmons
 
 
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Re: [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Jun 2009, at 08:37, Aleksey Lim wrote:

 Hi all,

 Let me finalize this What tags we should use for GCompris/Fructose/ 
 etc
 discussion :)

 New AMO version and incoming ASLO v3 version have collections feature
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections

 I think we can move tags GCompris and Fructose(Core, etc) to  
 collections
 moreover every user/deployer/editor could create theirs own  
 collections.

 Is it the way to go?

Yes this seems to be a solution. Allows the tags (categories) to be  
simple and learner friendly, while collections can be used for for the  
rest (collections are a secondary site UI, so don't clutter up the  
main site unless you visit their page).

Regards,
--Gary

 On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:50:31AM -0500, James Simmons wrote:
 The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me
 about the design of the site from the beginning.  The site does not  
 do a
 good job of showing just how much is available.  When you click on a
 category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly  
 picked
 at random, and no indication that these Activities are not the only  
 ones
 available in the category.  Yes, there is a link to show everything  
 in
 the category.  It's not that you can't find anything if you really  
 want
 to.  It's that the site doesn't do a good job of selling what it has.

 What I would suggest is to put totals for each category in a  
 prominent
 place on the page.  When you first come into the site and no  
 category is
 selected you should see something like 500 Great Activities
 Available!  Choose a category like Documents and the line would read
 10 Activities In This Category.

 The other thing that has bugged me is the Recommended Activities.  We
 need to put more thought into what gets recommended.  Currently one  
 of
 the Activities that is recommended is Read.  Now an XO owner or SoaS
 user already has Read, so why recommend it?  Is there some reason I
 should remove the Read I already have and install this one?

 Recommended Activities should promote Sugar.  They should meet the
 following criteria:

 1).  Fairly robust.
 2).  Not included by default with anything.
 3).  Should do something interesting.  Think of the iPhone  
 commercials
 that show all the apps that are available.  Why not recommend  
 something
 like Food Force or Story Builder?

 I also question the category GCompris.  I understand these Activities
 are related to each other, but the relationship would not be  
 meaningful
 to a teacher or a student.

 A little salesmanship could go a long way in making this site better.

 James Simmons


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[IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread James Simmons
The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me 
about the design of the site from the beginning.  The site does not do a 
good job of showing just how much is available.  When you click on a 
category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly picked 
at random, and no indication that these Activities are not the only ones 
available in the category.  Yes, there is a link to show everything in 
the category.  It's not that you can't find anything if you really want 
to.  It's that the site doesn't do a good job of selling what it has.

What I would suggest is to put totals for each category in a prominent 
place on the page.  When you first come into the site and no category is 
selected you should see something like 500 Great Activities 
Available!  Choose a category like Documents and the line would read 
10 Activities In This Category.

The other thing that has bugged me is the Recommended Activities.  We 
need to put more thought into what gets recommended.  Currently one of 
the Activities that is recommended is Read.  Now an XO owner or SoaS 
user already has Read, so why recommend it?  Is there some reason I 
should remove the Read I already have and install this one?

Recommended Activities should promote Sugar.  They should meet the 
following criteria:

1).  Fairly robust.
2).  Not included by default with anything.
3).  Should do something interesting.  Think of the iPhone commercials 
that show all the apps that are available.  Why not recommend something 
like Food Force or Story Builder?

I also question the category GCompris.  I understand these Activities 
are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful 
to a teacher or a student.

A little salesmanship could go a long way in making this site better.

James Simmons


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Re: [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread David Farning
I think the Recommended activities are still those which were uploaded
early just to test the the recommendations worked.

IIRC, for a long time search was more broken than recommendations
Thus, search got the love.

That being said, modifying and updating recommendations are handled
through a web interface by editors.  If you have the time and interest
recommendations could use some love from you:)

david


On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:50 AM, James Simmonsjim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote:
 The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me
 about the design of the site from the beginning.  The site does not do a
 good job of showing just how much is available.  When you click on a
 category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly picked
 at random, and no indication that these Activities are not the only ones
 available in the category.  Yes, there is a link to show everything in
 the category.  It's not that you can't find anything if you really want
 to.  It's that the site doesn't do a good job of selling what it has.

 What I would suggest is to put totals for each category in a prominent
 place on the page.  When you first come into the site and no category is
 selected you should see something like 500 Great Activities
 Available!  Choose a category like Documents and the line would read
 10 Activities In This Category.

 The other thing that has bugged me is the Recommended Activities.  We
 need to put more thought into what gets recommended.  Currently one of
 the Activities that is recommended is Read.  Now an XO owner or SoaS
 user already has Read, so why recommend it?  Is there some reason I
 should remove the Read I already have and install this one?

 Recommended Activities should promote Sugar.  They should meet the
 following criteria:

 1).  Fairly robust.
 2).  Not included by default with anything.
 3).  Should do something interesting.  Think of the iPhone commercials
 that show all the apps that are available.  Why not recommend something
 like Food Force or Story Builder?

 I also question the category GCompris.  I understand these Activities
 are related to each other, but the relationship would not be meaningful
 to a teacher or a student.

 A little salesmanship could go a long way in making this site better.

 James Simmons


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