Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

[Dave Crossland]

On 22 April 2016 at 20:31, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> This is central to the 'vision'. In my 'vision', the goal is to promote
> Sugar in the consumer world as an effective learning resource for learners
> who
> do not have access to computers or the internet (live on the wrong side of
> the digital divide).
>

I agree, I already put this in the
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 and have now made it
more prominent.


> There are many commercial and non-profit organizations which are trying to
> show a snappy interface attractive to parents of children used to Android
> or the iPhone. Sugar can easily become one choice among many - where most
> have far more resources than we do.
>
> I think we have an opportunity to work to the original concept of olpc -
> using Sugar to attract sponsors for deployments at schools or other
> community institutions in the two-thirds of the world that does not have
> effective access to the internet.
>

Yep, I think this is wise positioning.


> The problem with jazzing up the interface with 'gradients, transparency,
> shadows, and stuff' is that it demands more system resources without a
> clearly commensurate value to the learning experience.
>

I think for at least another 5 years, Sugar must continue to be workable on
the XO-1; and work on all XO laptops in the hidpi grey-scale screen mode.

I don't think this precludes 'gradients, transparency, shadows, and stuff'
but it means careful profiling of performance impact and careful visual
design.
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Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

[Tony Anderson]

This is central to the 'vision'. In my 'vision', the goal is to promote 
Sugar in the consumer world as an effective learning resource for 
learners who
do not have access to computers or the internet (live on the wrong side 
of the digital divide).


There are many commercial and non-profit organizations which are trying 
to show a snappy interface attractive to parents of children used to 
Android or the iPhone. Sugar can easily become one choice among many - 
where most have far more resources than we do.


I think we have an opportunity to work to the original concept of olpc - 
using Sugar to attract sponsors for deployments at schools or other 
community institutions in the two-thirds of the world that does not have 
effective access to the internet.


The problem with jazzing up the interface with 'gradients, transparency, 
shadows, and stuff' is that it demands more system resources without a 
clearly commensurate value to the learning experience.


Tony

On 04/23/2016 07:56 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:

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Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 09:56:37 +1000
From: Sam Parkinson<sam.parkins...@gmail.com>
To: Dave Crossland<d...@lab6.com>
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Subject: Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007
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I think that reducing the "interface prejudice" is an interesting
question.  Changing the theme to use more gradients, transparency,
shadows and stuff is very easy; we literally use the same toolkit that
powers GNOME's interface.  The real question would be if we can test
this feature; if anybody would be willing to do some usability testing
in comparison of both.

I actually think that some features contribute to the interface issue.
For example, we only allow 1 activity on the screen at the time.  Maybe
if we add the ability to split the screen vertically, we could appear
more mature.  It would also probably be useful for many users.  I might
draw up a design, unless somebody beats me to it.

Thanks,
Sam


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Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

[Sam Parkinson]

I think that reducing the "interface prejudice" is an interesting 
question.  Changing the theme to use more gradients, transparency, 
shadows and stuff is very easy; we literally use the same toolkit that 
powers GNOME's interface.  The real question would be if we can test 
this feature; if anybody would be willing to do some usability testing 
in comparison of both.


I actually think that some features contribute to the interface issue.  
For example, we only allow 1 activity on the screen at the time.  Maybe 
if we add the ability to split the screen vertically, we could appear 
more mature.  It would also probably be useful for many users.  I might 
draw up a design, unless somebody beats me to it.


Thanks,
Sam

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:



On 22 April 2016 at 19:27, Sebastian Silva 
 wrote:


The UI described has some interesting features:

" Aqua sugar - the children's machine translated for adults"
Alex Van de Sande  - 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnEtoYlRiE


Nice! Do you think any of these ideas should go on the sugar roadmap? 
:)
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Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

[Dave Crossland]

On 22 April 2016 at 19:27, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

>
> The UI described has some interesting features:
>
> " Aqua sugar - the children's machine translated for adults"
> Alex Van de Sande  - 2007
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnEtoYlRiE
>

Nice! Do you think any of these ideas should go on the sugar roadmap? :)
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[IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

[Sebastian Silva]

The UI described has some interesting features:

" Aqua sugar - the children's machine translated for adults"
Alex Van de Sande  - 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnEtoYlRiE

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