Re: [IAEP] Looking for very old hardware

2009-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 05:03:33PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote:

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:55:33PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

I would like very much to be able to put these old 5 1/2 floppies 
in, boot them up and print out the code so some enterprising Python 
programmer could convert them for Sugar.  I'm not even sure the 
disks will still work.  They are probably 20+ years old.
Sorry to be unhelpful, but I doubt those floppies still work. I have 
thrown away all my 3.5 disks some years ago because they all had 
errors, and the 5.25 ones long before. Disks usually last about 5 
years, maybe 10 if you're lucky (depends on magnetic fields in the 
vicinity, including the earth magnetic field).
If you've got a chance go and try, but I wouldn't recommend spending 
any money on it.


If you choose to try anyway, despite the warnings of the floppies being 
too old, then this site looks like could be better than ebay: 
http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/m_parts.html


I still have various Mac hardware as old as a PowerBook 1xx with 
external 3.5 drive, and also have some PC 5.25 but according to some 
web pages they cannot read Macintosh floppies (as they are not variable 
speed drives as Apple used back then, berfore the Superdrives).


...also, I live in Denmark and wouldn't recommend sending those old 
floppies by snail mail...



Good luck!

 - Jonas


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Re: [IAEP] Looking for very old hardware

2009-08-07 Thread Sascha Silbe

On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:55:33PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

I would like very much to be able to put these old 5 1/2 floppies in, 
boot them up and print out the code so some enterprising Python 
programmer could convert them for Sugar.  I'm not even sure the disks 
will still work.  They are probably 20+ years old.
Sorry to be unhelpful, but I doubt those floppies still work. I have 
thrown away all my 3.5 disks some years ago because they all had 
errors, and the 5.25 ones long before. Disks usually last about 5 
years, maybe 10 if you're lucky (depends on magnetic fields in the 
vicinity, including the earth magnetic field).
If you've got a chance go and try, but I wouldn't recommend spending any 
money on it.


CU Sascha

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[IAEP] Looking for very old hardware

2009-08-06 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hello All,


I asked this question about a year ago, but would like to ask it again.  I have 
been given some educational math software for elementary school written in 
Basic (or,maybe, machine language) for the old Apple ii series.  I also have 
a copy of an excellent program for Algebra I, also for the Apple ii series. 
Both of these are teacher tested and approved.


About 2-3 years ago I gave away my old Apple iie along with the dual disk 
drive, monitor, and printer. I have looked on ebay and there are some for sale 
there for very low prices plus a high price for shipping. Of course, they all 
claim they work, but have no guarantees.


I would like very much to be able to put these old 5 1/2 floppies in, boot 
them up and print out the code so some enterprising Python programmer could 
convert them for Sugar.  I'm not even sure the disks will still work.  They are 
probably 20+ years old.  


Does anyone reading this list have access to a working Apple ii system with 
monitor and printer?  If so, I could send the disks to them and they could do 
the print out of the code.   These are excellent, public domain programs (one 
is from the old softsawap we used to have in California.


I have one of the disks here in MT. The other is at my home in CA.


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