Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
Thanks Andrea! I put this thread into a Wiki page for future reference: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Intro_to_Sugar_Session On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Andrea Mangiatordi andrea.mangiato...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, Caroline Meeks wrote: 1. This is the Home Screen. [snip] 8. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. in the last months I was (and I still am, but for short) in Uruguay for my PhD research project, which involves educational software and special needs. I was asked to give some Sugar classes to teachers, and more or less the procedure I used was the same described above by Caroline. I would like to add some more points, to introduce the teachers to activity sharing: 9. This baloon is the Chat Activity - it only has a simple toolbar, and it can be easily used to explain activity sharing essentials. 10. This - the share with: combo box - makes your activity appear in the neighborhood view. Your friends can connect to it. Enjoy a little chat with your friends and see how important are Sugar colors to identify you. 11. This pen and paper icon is a text editor. Yes, it has the same toolbar of the chat. No, you don't have to use it like a chat.. :) Hope this hint could be useful to someone. Saluti Andrea -- Andrea Mangiatordi www.farfalla-project.org www.bglug.it ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 02:19, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are things I would do differently. Always bring an AP. Don't use existing wireless. When I tested before class the wireless seemed great. We packed the room. The wireless network got very flacky. Next time I'm going to bring an AP and just try to collaborate locally. I'm thinking of getting one of the open-mesh $29.00 units and seeing how that works. Either get USB sticks to boot OR teach about Sugar, don't try to do both at once. The class was packed and although most of the computers finally booted to sugar it took a lot of time. Until we really get things down I think I'm going to hand out LiveCDs then after wards tell people I'll work with them one-on-one to get it to boot from USB. Perhaps the main medium of SoaS distribution should be a SoaS LiceCD with an activity that would make very simple to flash a USB stick? That would allow us to control better the flashing process, where is very easy to get into trouble. And maybe that LiveCD could double as a Boot helper? Regards, Tomeu We need to create a list of Sugar Basics that we cover before we turn people loose to explore. This is the Home Screen. This icon represents you and its your colors Here is how you get to the frame. This is the Neighborhood view. You can get there from the frame or from F1. Here is how you connect to the AP. More color in the circle means stronger signal (Someone told me that he thought he should go for the empty ones cause it meant they had more room) This the your group view. Your friends will show up here. This is the Journal where your work is saved. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. We didn't do this and people got frustrated needlessly. We want them to explore but I think we need to figure out what people need to oriented too before they explore. I wonder if showing the demo movie would have been a good way to cover this. We didn't get to the lesson plan I created because we had so many people and so many problems booting. Luckily Walter can do a Sugar and Turtle Art presentation in his sleep. One thing we should have done, and would have gotten to if we had been able to follow our plan, is to demo Write and peer editing. This is a big deal for teachers. We need to remember to do it early in the presentation, before we get sucked into playing with the cute turtle. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:19:11PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are things I would do differently. Thanks for the summary. I put it up here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/How_to_present_sugar ...along with the links to the presentation and the video of the presentation. Martin (and of course I added it to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_UK/Pilots/London2009/OLPC_UK/Pilots/Resources ) pgpUgQWmC43K8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
On 6/27/09, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 02:19, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are things I would do differently. Always bring an AP. Don't use existing wireless. When I tested before class the wireless seemed great. We packed the room. The wireless network got very flacky. Next time I'm going to bring an AP and just try to collaborate locally. I'm thinking of getting one of the open-mesh $29.00 units and seeing how that works. Either get USB sticks to boot OR teach about Sugar, don't try to do both at once. The class was packed and although most of the computers finally booted to sugar it took a lot of time. Until we really get things down I think I'm going to hand out LiveCDs then after wards tell people I'll work with them one-on-one to get it to boot from USB. Perhaps the main medium of SoaS distribution should be a SoaS LiceCD with an activity that would make very simple to flash a USB stick? That would allow us to control better the flashing process, where is very easy to get into trouble. And maybe that LiveCD could double as a Boot helper? +1 +1 +1 Pretty Please with Sugar on Top Should I put in a ticket? Regards, Tomeu We need to create a list of Sugar Basics that we cover before we turn people loose to explore. This is the Home Screen. This icon represents you and its your colors Here is how you get to the frame. This is the Neighborhood view. You can get there from the frame or from F1. Here is how you connect to the AP. More color in the circle means stronger signal (Someone told me that he thought he should go for the empty ones cause it meant they had more room) This the your group view. Your friends will show up here. This is the Journal where your work is saved. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. We didn't do this and people got frustrated needlessly. We want them to explore but I think we need to figure out what people need to oriented too before they explore. I wonder if showing the demo movie would have been a good way to cover this. We didn't get to the lesson plan I created because we had so many people and so many problems booting. Luckily Walter can do a Sugar and Turtle Art presentation in his sleep. One thing we should have done, and would have gotten to if we had been able to follow our plan, is to demo Write and peer editing. This is a big deal for teachers. We need to remember to do it early in the presentation, before we get sucked into playing with the cute turtle. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
I wanted to thank Caroline and Walter for doing the presentation at FOSSed. Caroline was very generous with her time and we had many questions! The level of remote support was very impressive. Despite some of the roadblocks encountered during the presentation, I left the conference with enough understanding and software to get a classroom using Sugar. The demo done as we were trying to boot up was helpful. An orientation prior to that would also have been helpful. Laura Johns Middle School MathScience Penobscot ME la...@penobscotschool.org Begin forwarded message: From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Date: June 26, 2009 8:19:11 PM EDT To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are things I would do differently. Always bring an AP. Don't use existing wireless. When I tested before class the wireless seemed great. We packed the room. The wireless network got very flacky. Next time I'm going to bring an AP and just try to collaborate locally. I'm thinking of getting one of the open-mesh $29.00 units and seeing how that works. Either get USB sticks to boot OR teach about Sugar, don't try to do both at once. The class was packed and although most of the computers finally booted to sugar it took a lot of time. Until we really get things down I think I'm going to hand out LiveCDs then after wards tell people I'll work with them one-on-one to get it to boot from USB. We need to create a list of Sugar Basics that we cover before we turn people loose to explore. This is the Home Screen. This icon represents you and its your colors Here is how you get to the frame. This is the Neighborhood view. You can get there from the frame or from F1. Here is how you connect to the AP. More color in the circle means stronger signal (Someone told me that he thought he should go for the empty ones cause it meant they had more room) This the your group view. Your friends will show up here. This is the Journal where your work is saved. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. We didn't do this and people got frustrated needlessly. We want them to explore but I think we need to figure out what people need to oriented too before they explore. I wonder if showing the demo movie would have been a good way to cover this. We didn't get to the lesson plan I created because we had so many people and so many problems booting. Luckily Walter can do a Sugar and Turtle Art presentation in his sleep. One thing we should have done, and would have gotten to if we had been able to follow our plan, is to demo Write and peer editing. This is a big deal for teachers. We need to remember to do it early in the presentation, before we get sucked into playing with the cute turtle. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
Perhaps the main medium of SoaS distribution should be a SoaS LiceCD with an activity that would make very simple to flash a USB stick? That would allow us to control better the flashing process, where is very easy to get into trouble. And maybe that LiveCD could double as a Boot helper? +1 +1 +1 Pretty Please with Sugar on Top Should I put in a ticket? See http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/907, linked to this post. --Fred ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
Hi everybody, Caroline Meeks wrote: 1. This is the Home Screen. [snip] 8. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. in the last months I was (and I still am, but for short) in Uruguay for my PhD research project, which involves educational software and special needs. I was asked to give some Sugar classes to teachers, and more or less the procedure I used was the same described above by Caroline. I would like to add some more points, to introduce the teachers to activity sharing: 9. This baloon is the Chat Activity - it only has a simple toolbar, and it can be easily used to explain activity sharing essentials. 10. This - the share with: combo box - makes your activity appear in the neighborhood view. Your friends can connect to it. Enjoy a little chat with your friends and see how important are Sugar colors to identify you. 11. This pen and paper icon is a text editor. Yes, it has the same toolbar of the chat. No, you don't have to use it like a chat.. :) Hope this hint could be useful to someone. Saluti Andrea -- Andrea Mangiatordi www.farfalla-project.org www.bglug.it ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are things I would do differently. - Always bring an AP. Don't use existing wireless. When I tested before class the wireless seemed great. We packed the room. The wireless network got very flacky. Next time I'm going to bring an AP and just try to collaborate locally. I'm thinking of getting one of the open-mesh $29.00 units and seeing how that works. - Either get USB sticks to boot OR teach about Sugar, don't try to do both at once. The class was packed and although most of the computers finally booted to sugar it took a lot of time. Until we really get things down I think I'm going to hand out LiveCDs then after wards tell people I'll work with them one-on-one to get it to boot from USB. We need to create a list of Sugar Basics that we cover before we turn people loose to explore. 1. This is the Home Screen. 2. This icon represents you and its your colors 3. Here is how you get to the frame. 4. This is the Neighborhood view. You can get there from the frame or from F1. 5. Here is how you connect to the AP. More color in the circle means stronger signal (Someone told me that he thought he should go for the empty ones cause it meant they had more room) 6. This the your group view. Your friends will show up here. 7. This is the Journal where your work is saved. 8. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. We didn't do this and people got frustrated needlessly. We want them to explore but I think we need to figure out what people need to oriented too before they explore. I wonder if showing the demo movie would have been a good way to cover this. We didn't get to the lesson plan I created because we had so many people and so many problems booting. Luckily Walter can do a Sugar and Turtle Art presentation in his sleep. One thing we should have done, and would have gotten to if we had been able to follow our plan, is to demo Write and peer editing. This is a big deal for teachers. We need to remember to do it early in the presentation, before we get sucked into playing with the cute turtle. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
Absolutely spot on. And I would add, it is too overwhelming to give a lecture and let them explore Sugar at the same time... -walter On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are things I would do differently. Always bring an AP. Don't use existing wireless. When I tested before class the wireless seemed great. We packed the room. The wireless network got very flacky. Next time I'm going to bring an AP and just try to collaborate locally. I'm thinking of getting one of the open-mesh $29.00 units and seeing how that works. Either get USB sticks to boot OR teach about Sugar, don't try to do both at once. The class was packed and although most of the computers finally booted to sugar it took a lot of time. Until we really get things down I think I'm going to hand out LiveCDs then after wards tell people I'll work with them one-on-one to get it to boot from USB. We need to create a list of Sugar Basics that we cover before we turn people loose to explore. This is the Home Screen. This icon represents you and its your colors Here is how you get to the frame. This is the Neighborhood view. You can get there from the frame or from F1. Here is how you connect to the AP. More color in the circle means stronger signal (Someone told me that he thought he should go for the empty ones cause it meant they had more room) This the your group view. Your friends will show up here. This is the Journal where your work is saved. To do something go to your Home screen and click on any of these icons. They are the activities. We didn't do this and people got frustrated needlessly. We want them to explore but I think we need to figure out what people need to oriented too before they explore. I wonder if showing the demo movie would have been a good way to cover this. We didn't get to the lesson plan I created because we had so many people and so many problems booting. Luckily Walter can do a Sugar and Turtle Art presentation in his sleep. One thing we should have done, and would have gotten to if we had been able to follow our plan, is to demo Write and peer editing. This is a big deal for teachers. We need to remember to do it early in the presentation, before we get sucked into playing with the cute turtle. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo
As a participant in Caroline and Walter's presentation, I agree with almost everything they said. However, the lecture/demo was helpful while waiting to get Sugar working on my machine. The Orientation piece, like Caroline listed, would have been very helpful - (us older folks need a bit of direction to be constructivist :) ) - it could have been delivered via a presentation or through a video. But either way it should be available after a workshop for reference, reteaching, and sharing with others. Another helpful piece would be a poster/grid explaining the icons. Yes, the kids will figure them out, but the adults need to feel a certain level of comfort with the icons. As a second grade teacher, I love the balance between pre-made activities and creation of new activities. The education possibilities are amazing with that balance! I can't wait to explore all the options. I would be interested in having Sugar on a Stick work in a K12LTSP environment as well as having clear, non-technical directions for using it on other platforms. Thanks again for all your hard work and for such an amazing product! Deborah White Asa C. Adams School Orono, ME 04473 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
