Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-06 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
 Hi,

    What about leaving it unstarred?  I'd hate to leave out a good
    practical activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments
    could be used as reasons not to have a word processor or
    spreadsheet altogether.

 Yes, I'm in favour of shipping Finance too, as long as Wade thinks
 it's ready/usable enough.  A local decision not to include it is fine,
 but separate from the question of what we should provide as a default.

Yeah, Finance is definitely usable.  It was one of those weekend
projects that I figured I'd take further if it got some interest, but
what is there now is quite functional.

Just make sure you get v3 from ASLO - it contains all the latest
translations and uses the correct version of json (thx to sugar-ports
lib).

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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Samuel Klein
Here's a list of activities that I think would be great, both worth starring
and worth having unstarred (it's a large enough list now that it's confusing
to have them all on the home screen by default, but there are lots of great
activities that people who know about them will want even when they're
offline with no way to get new activities).

There may be another 5-10 of these that are worth unstarring for a clean,
useful firstboot home screen...  I'm testing these over the weekend.

OLPCorps classes had lovely stories about using both Micropolis and Moon
with parents and students becoming interested because of those activities
(Moon for religious reasons).

Words still accumulates bad characters at the start of its input field if
you keep using it and encounter words with accents, but it's also been very
useful.

Read Etexts is a bit redundant with Get Books, but it is lovely in its own
focused way, and small.

OOo4kids and Gcompris (a suitable subset) would be excellent additions...
both have sizeable development communities compared to most of the
activities here

SJ


TO TEST:

 ==

 Browse
 Calculate
 Chat
 Distance
 Etoys
 Implode
 Infoslicer
 IRC
 Labyrinth
 Maze
 Measure
 Memorize

 Physics
 Pippy
 Read
 Record
 Scratch
 Speak
 TamTam *
 Terminal
 Turtle Art
 Typing Turtle
 Words
 Write

 [ADD]
 Get Books
 Help
 Wikibrowse (en, es)
 ..
 Falabracman
 FoodForce2
 Micropolis (Corps support!)
 OOo4Kids (link to Gnome)

GCompris
 TuxPaint
 ..
 Finance
 Geogebra
 SocialCalc


 [UNSTAR]
 Analyze
 Jukebox
 Log
 Moon (Corps story!)
 Paint

 [ADD  UNSTAR]
 VNC Launcher
 Read Etexts?




 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 Date: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Devel Digest, Vol 45, Issue 53
 To: Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org
 Cc: OLPC Development de...@lists.laptop.org, Eric Bachard 
 er...@openoffice.org


 Hi,

 [Added ericb to CC; Eric, we're talking about which applications to
 include by default on our OLPC XO-1.5 software release.]

How about suggestions for programs on the Gnome side?

 That's a good idea, thanks.

 I haven't decided what to do about OpenOffice yet -- at the moment we
 don't ship it, but do ship abiword and gnumeric.  The options for it
 look something like:

 * just add the openoffice.org Fedora packages for GNOME.
  (How much disk space would that use?)

 * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar.

 * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar, *and* find a way to make
  the same activity launchable inside GNOME.  This would need Ooo4Kids
  to be useful for older kids as well, since they're the target
  audience for using GNOME instead of Sugar.

 The OOo4Kids activity is here:

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4241  (100MB)

 Perhaps someone could try out OOo4Kids, see how it compares to
 standard OpenOffice, and see how much disk space adding the full
 OpenOffice packages would require?

 Thanks!

 - Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Samuel Klein wrote:
 [ADD  UNSTAR]
 VNC Launcher

Not sure what this category is for, but I feel like I need to put in a
plug for Watch Me [1].  VNC Launcher lets an XO copy its screen to a
non-Sugar client with VNC software.  Watch Me, wraps this process into a
pure Sugar form, so that XOs running Sugar can share their screens with
each other.

[1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4205



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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
I'd suggest Stopwatch

http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xo

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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

I'd suggest Stopwatch
http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xo

Thanks, added.

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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz 
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:

 Samuel Klein wrote:
  [ADD  UNSTAR]
  VNC Launcher

 Not sure what this category is for, but I feel like I need to put in a
 plug for Watch Me [1].


It's for activities with great demo potential, or that are useful in the
hands of clueful XO uses/techers/c -- but aren't so broadly useful as to
merit taking up 2% of the default desktop.


 Watch Me, wraps this process into a pure Sugar form, so that XOs running
 Sugar can share their screens with each other.

 [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/sugar/addon/4205


That's very cool; I hadn't tried it  before.

 http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xohttp://dev.laptop.org/%7Ebemasc/StopWatchActivity-3.xo

+1

Mike writes:
 I would recommend against including finance by default.  As laptops
 are given out by government agencies in countries where people are
 often suspicious of the government and it's often the time that they
 are trying to increase tax revenue this might well lead to suspicions.

What about leaving it unstarred?   I'd hate to leave out a good practical
activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments could be used as
reasons not to have a word processor or spreadsheet altogether.

SJ
(who wishes ImageQuiz  were available :)
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Mike,

On 5 Dec 2009, at 20:43, Mike Dawson wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 The GCompris stuff is very very nice indeed and I would highly
 recommend having some of them.  Even just because it has such great
 demo power and then further activities can be installed from the
 school server.

My concern with GCompris ports is they do not follow even the most basic of 
Sugar UI standards, many don't even support keeping a Journal resume state. 
There's are some nice applications, but highly concerned they dilute 
understanding of basic Sugar behaviours and UI expectations if installed as 
default demos of what is good.

Regards,
--Gary

 I would recommend against including finance by default.  As laptops
 are given out by government agencies in countries where people are
 often suspicious of the government and it's often the time that they
 are trying to increase tax revenue this might well lead to suspicions.
 We otherwise would have loved to include it.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Mike (in Afghanistan)
 
 2009/12/6 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
 Here's a list of activities that I think would be great, both worth starring
 and worth having unstarred (it's a large enough list now that it's confusing
 to have them all on the home screen by default, but there are lots of great
 activities that people who know about them will want even when they're
 offline with no way to get new activities).
 
 There may be another 5-10 of these that are worth unstarring for a clean,
 useful firstboot home screen...  I'm testing these over the weekend.
 
 OLPCorps classes had lovely stories about using both Micropolis and Moon
 with parents and students becoming interested because of those activities
 (Moon for religious reasons).
 
 Words still accumulates bad characters at the start of its input field if
 you keep using it and encounter words with accents, but it's also been very
 useful.
 
 Read Etexts is a bit redundant with Get Books, but it is lovely in its own
 focused way, and small.
 
 OOo4kids and Gcompris (a suitable subset) would be excellent additions...
 both have sizeable development communities compared to most of the
 activities here
 
 SJ
 
 
 TO TEST:
 
 ==
 Browse
 Calculate
 Chat
 Distance
 Etoys
 Implode
 Infoslicer
 IRC
 Labyrinth
 Maze
 Measure
 Memorize
 Physics
 Pippy
 Read
 Record
 Scratch
 Speak
 TamTam *
 Terminal
 Turtle Art
 Typing Turtle
 Words
 Write
 
 [ADD]
 Get Books
 Help
 Wikibrowse (en, es)
 ..
 Falabracman
 FoodForce2
 Micropolis (Corps support!)
 OOo4Kids (link to Gnome)
 
 GCompris
 TuxPaint
 ..
 Finance
 Geogebra
 SocialCalc
 
 
 [UNSTAR]
 Analyze
 Jukebox
 Log
 Moon (Corps story!)
 Paint
 
 [ADD  UNSTAR]
 VNC Launcher
 Read Etexts?
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 Date: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Devel Digest, Vol 45, Issue 53
 To: Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org
 Cc: OLPC Development de...@lists.laptop.org, Eric Bachard
 er...@openoffice.org
 
 
 Hi,
 
 [Added ericb to CC; Eric, we're talking about which applications to
 include by default on our OLPC XO-1.5 software release.]
 
How about suggestions for programs on the Gnome side?
 
 That's a good idea, thanks.
 
 I haven't decided what to do about OpenOffice yet -- at the moment we
 don't ship it, but do ship abiword and gnumeric.  The options for it
 look something like:
 
 * just add the openoffice.org Fedora packages for GNOME.
  (How much disk space would that use?)
 
 * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar.
 
 * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar, *and* find a way to make
  the same activity launchable inside GNOME.  This would need Ooo4Kids
  to be useful for older kids as well, since they're the target
  audience for using GNOME instead of Sugar.
 
 The OOo4Kids activity is here:
 
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4241  (100MB)
 
 Perhaps someone could try out OOo4Kids, see how it compares to
 standard OpenOffice, and see how much disk space adding the full
 OpenOffice packages would require?
 
 Thanks!
 
 - Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-12-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

What about leaving it unstarred?  I'd hate to leave out a good
practical activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments
could be used as reasons not to have a word processor or
spreadsheet altogether.

Yes, I'm in favour of shipping Finance too, as long as Wade thinks
it's ready/usable enough.  A local decision not to include it is fine,
but separate from the question of what we should provide as a default.

- Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-27 Thread Claudia Urrea
What about *SocialCalc*? I use it with measure to graph the data collected.
It can also be used to do any kind of budget, etc. People use it.. and they
are planning to release a new version with Spanish localization.

All my XOs have *VNC launcher*... I use it during workshops or demos, but I
couldn't find it in Sugar Labs.

Claudia.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero 
dir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 It's done..let's see what people says there.


 Rafael Ortiz



 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
  dir...@gmail.com wrote:
  Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
  they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.
 
  Should we ask in olpc-sur?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Tomeu
 
 
 
 
 
  Rafael Ortiz
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Chris,
 
  I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
  Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
  he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
  work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
 
  Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
  Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
  however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
  deserves to be.
 
  You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
  with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
  works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
  version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
  word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
  (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
 
  I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
  if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
 
  If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
  modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
  DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
  useful for Internet Archive books.
 
  James Simmons
 
 
  Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
  From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
  To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
  Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
  Message-ID:
 9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
  Chris,
 
  I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get
 IA
  Books.
 
  Otherwise, this list looks good.
 
  Thanks.
  Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-27 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Another suggestions from -Sur.

Geogebra and Wikibrowse.


cheers!
Rafael Ortiz



On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Claudia Urrea callaur...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about SocialCalc? I use it with measure to graph the data collected. It
 can also be used to do any kind of budget, etc. People use it.. and they are
 planning to release a new version with Spanish localization.

 All my XOs have VNC launcher... I use it during workshops or demos, but I
 couldn't find it in Sugar Labs.

 Claudia.

 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
 dir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 It's done..let's see what people says there.


 Rafael Ortiz



 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
  dir...@gmail.com wrote:
  Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
  they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the
  list.
 
  Should we ask in olpc-sur?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Tomeu
 
 
 
 
 
  Rafael Ortiz
 
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Chris,
 
  I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
  Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
  he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
  work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.
 
  Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
  Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
  however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
  deserves to be.
 
  You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
  with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
  works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
  version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
  word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
  (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.
 
  I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
  if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.
 
  If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
  modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
  DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
  useful for Internet Archive books.
 
  James Simmons
 
 
  Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
  From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
  To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
  Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
  Message-ID:
         9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
  Chris,
 
  I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get
  IA
  Books.
 
  Otherwise, this list looks good.
 
  Thanks.
  Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
dir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
 they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.

Should we ask in olpc-sur?

Thanks,

Tomeu





 Rafael Ortiz



 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris,

 I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
 Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
 he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
 work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.

 Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
 Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
 however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
 deserves to be.

 You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
 with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
 works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
 version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
 word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
 (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.

 I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
 if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.

 If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
 modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
 DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
 useful for Internet Archive books.

 James Simmons


 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
 Message-ID:
        9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Chris,

 I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
 Books.

 Otherwise, this list looks good.

 Thanks.
 Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-26 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi,

It's done..let's see what people says there.


Rafael Ortiz



On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
 dir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
 they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.

 Should we ask in olpc-sur?

 Thanks,

 Tomeu





 Rafael Ortiz



 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris,

 I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
 Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
 he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
 work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.

 Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
 Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
 however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
 deserves to be.

 You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
 with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
 works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
 version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
 word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
 (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.

 I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
 if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.

 If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
 modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
 DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
 useful for Internet Archive books.

 James Simmons


 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
 Message-ID:
        9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Chris,

 I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
 Books.

 Otherwise, this list looks good.

 Thanks.
 Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-25 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments,
they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list.





Rafael Ortiz



On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris,

 I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
 Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
 he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
 work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.

 Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
 Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
 however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
 deserves to be.

 You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
 with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
 works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
 version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
 word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
 (pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.

 I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
 if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.

 If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
 modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
 DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
 useful for Internet Archive books.

 James Simmons


 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
 Message-ID:
        9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Chris,

 I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
 Books.

 Otherwise, this list looks good.

 Thanks.
 Gerald
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-24 Thread Jim Simmons
Chris,

I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both).
Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps
he could get it in shape for inclusion in time.  Right now it doesn't
work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue.

Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the
Internet Archive.  There are only about a million books there!  It is,
however, ready to go.  It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it
deserves to be.

You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech
with highlighting feature and its own built in book search.  It only
works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures.  The present
version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports
word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences
(pitch and rate).  This is a popular download on ASLO.

I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder
if children would find that useful.  They already have Chat and Speak.

If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince
modules, etc. to include with it.  With the right modules Read can do
DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs.  DJVU in particular is
useful for Internet Archive books.

James Simmons


 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500
 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org
 Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org
 Message-ID:
        9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Chris,

 I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
 Books.

 Otherwise, this list looks good.

 Thanks.
 Gerald
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[IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-23 Thread Chris Ball
Hi folks,

We'd like your help in coming up with a list of default-installed
Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 software release.  The current
activity list, which wasn't chosen with any particular criteria
or thoughtfulness, is:

Analyze
Browse
Calculate
Chat
Distance
Etoys
Implode
Infoslicer
IRC
Jukebox
Labyrinth
Log
Maze
Measure
Memorize
Moon
Paint
Physics
Pippy
Read
Record
Scratch
Speak
TamTam *
Terminal
Turtle Art
Typing Turtle
Words
Write

Any suggestions for activities to add?  A reasonable set of criteria
for looking at the suggestions seems like:

(a) works on 0.84 (and preferably 0.82)
(b) complete translations for OLPC deployment countries
(c) reasonably low disk space use
(d) download popularity on activities.sugarlabs.org

Thanks!

- Chris.
-- 
Chris Ball   c...@laptop.org
One Laptop Per Child
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Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5

2009-11-23 Thread Gerald Ardito
Chris,

I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA
Books.

Otherwise, this list looks good.

Thanks.
Gerald

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:

 Hi folks,

 We'd like your help in coming up with a list of default-installed
 Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 software release.  The current
 activity list, which wasn't chosen with any particular criteria
 or thoughtfulness, is:

 Analyze
 Browse
 Calculate
 Chat
 Distance
 Etoys
 Implode
 Infoslicer
 IRC
 Jukebox
 Labyrinth
 Log
 Maze
 Measure
 Memorize
 Moon
 Paint
 Physics
 Pippy
 Read
 Record
 Scratch
 Speak
 TamTam *
 Terminal
 Turtle Art
 Typing Turtle
 Words
 Write

 Any suggestions for activities to add?  A reasonable set of criteria
 for looking at the suggestions seems like:

 (a) works on 0.84 (and preferably 0.82)
 (b) complete translations for OLPC deployment countries
 (c) reasonably low disk space use
 (d) download popularity on activities.sugarlabs.org

 Thanks!

 - Chris.
 --
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