Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On 22 June 2016 at 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > There are 2 obvious candidates to me, the new "olpc laptop" available from > olpc inc to USA resident individuals for us$200 plus us$100 shipping from > china, with other countries shipping fees varying; and the One Education >

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

Quoting Samuel Greenfeld (2016-06-23 01:10:53) > I am going to take the unpopular stance here and say if all you are > willing to support is a computer which requires no binary blobs, you > are going to support no computer at all. Seems you misread my mail, then: I explicitly do not talk about

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Jun 22, 2016 7:11 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld" wrote: > > I am going to take the unpopular stance here and say if all you are willing to support is a computer which requires no binary blobs, you are going to support no computer at all. If being fully free is a goal - which I

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

What laptop do you use Jonas? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

I am going to take the unpopular stance here and say if all you are willing to support is a computer which requires no binary blobs, you are going to support no computer at all. It's just a question of who loads what binary blobs. Even x86 CPUs have their microcode loaders and digitally signed

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

Quoting Sam Parkinson (2016-06-23 00:07:34) > I think that the issue was mainly it was hard to install Sugar on the > 1st generation rpis. The 1st gen was a special snowflake and it > didn't run normal distros that could normally intall sugar. RPi1 _also_ was slow, like most devices of that

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

If we want a reference device, it needs to be as boring as possible. Let's not repeat the XO situation. The issue with XOs now seems to be that they are all special snowflakes with their special kernel versions. This is my understanding of why we can't update them to the new versions of

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Walter Bender wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: I wouldn't dismiss the Raspberry Pi 3 or similar

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Walter Bender (2016-06-22 16:33:15) > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Sebastian Silva > >> wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

Quoting Walter Bender (2016-06-22 16:33:15) > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Sebastian Silva >> wrote: >>> I wouldn't dismiss the Raspberry Pi 3 or similar single board >>> computer >> >>

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On 22 June 2016 at 10:30, Sean DALY wrote: > Around the time RPi hit the million unit mark I floated the idea of a > Sugar-branded enclosure for it, distributed through the RPi partner network. I've added this idea to https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals and encourage

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On 22 June 2016 at 10:33, Walter Bender wrote: > The problem at the time was that the Sugar experience on RPi was pretty > terrible. I suspect it is pretty decent on the newer models. Do we know? Very decent! :) Tony's remark was about the "Pi Zero" "$5" model. On the

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > I wouldn't dismiss the Raspberry Pi 3 or similar single board computer Around the time RPi hit the million unit mark I floated the idea of a Sugar-branded enclosure for it, distributed through the RPi partner

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Sebastian Silva < > sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: > >> I wouldn't dismiss the Raspberry Pi 3 or similar single board computer > > > > Around the time RPi hit the million unit mark I

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

El 22/06/16 a las 07:40, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > On Jun 21, 2016 10:41 AM, "Walter Bender" > wrote: > > > > soliciting a small donation of hardware from Google as a reference > platform. > > Who do we know at google who could help

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

Intel markets latest Classmate reference design as "2 in 1" tablet + laptop. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/solutions/2-in-1.html http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/products/versatility-for-learning.html Sean On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Walter Bender

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2016 10:41 AM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > > > soliciting a small donation of hardware from Google as a reference > platform. > > Who do we know at google who could help with that? > >

[IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

On Jun 21, 2016 10:41 AM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > soliciting a small donation of hardware from Google as a reference platform. Who do we know at google who could help with that? Despite google fonts being a client, I don't know anyone there who could help with this