Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-03-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Btw, we'll need to update the link to http://addons.sugarlabs.org/ at the top to the page to point to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/ when it gets ready. Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 17:51, David Farning wrote: > Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually > http://w

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-03-01 Thread Sean DALY
Building a website for kids seems like a great idea to me. An online extension of the Sugar interface could foster interaction between Sugarized schools in a country and even beyond borders. The commitment of choosing a username is not major for an existing Sugar user. And, it could provide curious

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-28 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > I second Michael's suggestion about a web design that echoes the Sugar > design.  Think how useful this would be if carried to school servers.  And > as a basis for web-served Sugar-like activities. This would be delightful. * No text

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-28 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > > I forcefully object to everything about this website. It is ugly, > off-putting, unnavigable, unreadable, buggy, empty of any helpful > information, and in many other ways among the worst websites I could

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Thank you, everyone, for your feedback on the test site. The goal remains to get the site launched very soon‹we¹ll work on a revised build will that will attempt to address the main concerns raised today. Best, Christian On 2/27/09 2:55 PM, "Carol Farlow Lerche" wrote: > I second Michael's s

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I second Michael's suggestion about a web design that echoes the Sugar design. Think how useful this would be if carried to school servers. And as a basis for web-served Sugar-like activities. I have to agree with the conclusion that the test design is off-putting. It is certainly not intelligi

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:56:52AM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: >David Farning wrote: >> Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually >> http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ > >I forcefully object to everything about this website. It is ugly, >off-putting, unnavigable, unreadabl

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Dave Bauer
Hmmm, I haven't noticed before this requires javascript and I was using the noscript addon to firefox. It is VERY disconcerting to have the screen scroll with the flashing highlight. I am not really clear on what the design goals are but personally the design is not working for me. On Fri, Feb 27

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread ,Josh williams
Hi Nate, I agree with you completely, actually I'd have to say that you're preaching to the choir; I'm a huge fan of Helvetica. I've been meaning to check that film out. I've heard mixed reviews, but I think it's something I'd enjoy. I just think embedding a clone to replace a clone is overki

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Nate Ridderman
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM, ,Josh williams wrote: > In my experience, most fonts in Windows look bad anyway. I don't think > it would be worth the effort embed a helvetica clone, arial is already a > clone of helvetica. However, when firefox 3.1 comes out embedding fonts > is something to con

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread ,Josh williams
In my experience, most fonts in Windows look bad anyway. I don't think it would be worth the effort embed a helvetica clone, arial is already a clone of helvetica. However, when firefox 3.1 comes out embedding fonts is something to consider. There's an outstanding article on the subject here h

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Sean DALY
Some information about free/libre fonts: http://www.unifont.org On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > >> >> Adding to the visual problems is that I don't have Helvetica installed on my >> machine. I think I'm getting the standard, ugly Arial that comes with >> Windows

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
> > Adding to the visual problems is that I don't have Helvetica installed on my > machine. I think I'm getting the standard, ugly Arial that comes with Windows. > Perhaps we can embed a Creative Commons licensed Helvetica clone in the site? Thanks for your feedback, Nate. Installing Helvetica i

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > Ben, perhaps you can help us write some of the content you think is > inadequate. You are entitled to your opinion about the design, but really > what we need is constructive criticism, as many of us have dedicated a lot > of time to put this together. In my opinion

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Nate Ridderman
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > 2a. The cardinal sin, in both sites, is to prize form over function. OLPC > didn't mind this, since they were sure that everyone who needed to know > about OLPC already knew about it. In fact, they were t

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
> > 6. The elliptical text snippets are good demo / PowerPoint fodder but > don't help peolpe answer the questions I imagine people are going to > come to the site to find out. Especially since they're phrased as > statements/answers, so people with different questions have to read > each one and

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Dave Bauer
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt < schm...@pentagram.com> wrote: > Ben, perhaps you can help us write some of the content you think is > inadequate. You are entitled to your opinion about the design, but really > what we need is constructive criticism, as many of us have de

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:47:31PM -0500, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > what we need is constructive criticism 1. The random color scheme is surprising and confusing to me. 2. The essential information conveyed by the main text on http://sugarlabs.org/go/Main_Page ("The learning engine for ever

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Ben, perhaps you can help us write some of the content you think is inadequate. You are entitled to your opinion about the design, but really what we need is constructive criticism, as many of us have dedicated a lot of time to put this together. Best, Christian On 2/27/09 12:39 PM, "Benjamin

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > Ben, could you please let us know where you encountered any bugs? Clicking "collaborative learning through rich-media expression" causes the page to scroll to a point where the "About" button obscures the text. In general, the floating About button is ugly, confusi

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Please let me know if anyone else encounters this. I haven't seen it while testing on Mac/PC systems in Firefox, Safari and IE... Christian On 2/27/09 12:12 PM, "David Farning" wrote: > For some reason, the first couple of times I looked at the site from > www-testing.sl.o the floating menu w

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
For some reason, the first couple of times I looked at the site from www-testing.sl.o the floating menu was rather jerky. But now I can not reproduce it. david On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > Ben, could you please let us know where you encountered any bugs? > >

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Ben, could you please let us know where you encountered any bugs? Thanks, Christian On 2/27/09 11:56 AM, "Benjamin M. Schwartz" wrote: > David Farning wrote: >> Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually >> http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ > > I forcefully object to every

Re: [IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
David Farning wrote: > Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually > http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ I forcefully object to everything about this website. It is ugly, off-putting, unnavigable, unreadable, buggy, empty of any helpful information, and in many other ways among the

[IAEP] http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep