Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Tony Anderson]

I think this started with an observation from Adam. We have used 
deployment in the community to refer to the institution where the 
laptops are located and the overall environment; hence, the Deployment 
Guide. In our current context, Uruguay is not a deployment but each 
school in Uruguay with laptops is a deployment. Some may be doing well, 
some not so well.


Intervention sounds like taking some action in an ongoing situation. 
This is rare (Uruguay, Peru, Rwanda may justify intervention since the 
deployments were and are being put in place by the national government 
(Ministry of Education). In many others, a deployment is made by a 
sponsor ($) and a dedicated individual or team who visit the school or 
institution, deliver the hardware, set the system up, and provide 
initial training. Intervention does not sound like the right word for 
these cases.


What we need to understand by deployment or 'intervention' is a school 
or institution which has multiple laptops (normally XOs) and, possibly a 
school server and lan, and, probably little or no access to the internet.


From a Sugar community perspective, we are talking about a 'customer' 
or 'client'.


Maybe 'olpc site' would be good - where olpc is the community name not 
the commercial OLPC.


Tony

On 04/25/2016 08:12 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:



El 25/04/16 a las 06:11, Sean DALY escribió:


the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is
a poor marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)



Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with 
everything connected to it (logistics, support).
Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not 
common IT and /deployment/ does sound like an impositive, top down 
approach.


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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

On 25 April 2016 at 13:42, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> I love the word Workshop. In spanish it does
> not carry the "training session" meaning as much as a place filled with
> tools to work with (such as an artisan shop).
>

The closely English word is "studio"
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sebastian Silva]

El 25/04/16 a las 10:37, Dave Crossland escribió:
>
> However, for me, it also sound like an impositive, top down approach. 
>
> I like "lab" because the essential idea of a laboratory is that it
> runs its own (somewhat scientific) experiments and judges its own
> results; no top-down impositions. 
>
> But having a set of reference experiments to self-assess is wise. 
>
> What are your expected results? :) 

Beyond homeschooling our children and mentoring some others, we've never
been in charge of what people in the OLPC/Sugar Labs community call a
(laptop) "deployment".

Expected result is that they learn to learn to be happy :-)

On a broader picture, we hope children will be empowered and liberated
by technology, not enslaved by it. We hope they will use these commons
for the good of their own communities. We also hope they will use it to
enable meaningful cultural exchange and empathy accross cultures.

In an intervention, it's good to keep these primary goals in mind as
some of them are hard to measure.

Talking about terminology, I love the word Workshop. In spanish it does
not carry the "training session" meaning as much as a place filled with
tools to work with (such as an artisan shop).

Regards,
Sebastian





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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

On 25 April 2016 at 11:20, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> El 25/04/16 a las 08:55, Dave Crossland escribió:
>
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva 
> wrote:
>
>> Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not
>> common IT and *deployment* does sound like an impositive, top down
>> approach.
>>
>
> Sounds like psychiatry ;)
>
>
> Although I code since childhood, my academic deformation is in Psychology
> :-)
>
> Generally in social sciences intervention refers to taking action with the
> intention to change something in a person or group. It implies an expected
> outcome and responsibility beyond, in this case, merely providing access to
> technology.
>
> The big difference I guess is that a proper intervention's results are
> measured and evaluated.
>

However, for me, it also sound like an impositive, top down approach.

I like "lab" because the essential idea of a laboratory is that it runs its
own (somewhat scientific) experiments and judges its own results; no
top-down impositions.

But having a set of reference experiments to self-assess is wise.

What are your expected results? :)

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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sebastian Silva]

El 25/04/16 a las 08:55, Dave Crossland escribió:
>
> On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva  > wrote:
>
> Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are
> not common IT and /deployment/ does sound like an impositive, top
> down approach.
>
>
> Sounds like psychiatry ;) 

Although I code since childhood, my academic deformation is in
Psychology :-)

Generally in social sciences intervention refers to taking action with
the intention to change something in a person or group. It implies an
expected outcome and responsibility beyond, in this case, merely
providing access to technology.

The big difference I guess is that a proper intervention's results are
measured and evaluated.
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not common
> IT and *deployment* does sound like an impositive, top down approach.
>

Sounds like psychiatry ;)
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

On 25 April 2016 at 07:11, Sean DALY  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:02 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a poor
>> marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)
>
>
>
> Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with
> everything connected to it (logistics, support).
>

I know :)
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sebastian Silva]

El 25/04/16 a las 06:11, Sean DALY escribió:
>
> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a
> poor marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)
>
>
>
> Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with
> everything connected to it (logistics, support).
Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not
common IT and /deployment/ does sound like an impositive, top down approach.
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Sean DALY]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:02 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a poor
> marketing term, since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)



Deployment is the common IT term for rolling out a solution, with
everything connected to it (logistics, support).
Sean
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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

On 24 April 2016 at 21:44, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> The strategic need is to establish direct communication with folks at
> these deployments to get first-hand information. This direct communication
> can put the community in direct contact with the user community and help us
> provide more relevant capabilities.
>
> I think this is going to be a deployment-by-deployment process.
>

I agree


> [deployment ideas]
>

I added them to the Local Labs Contact page


> The webpage is a good start (
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs/Contacts). However, it is
> connected to the local labs program. You may want to find out from Walter
> about its current status. The idea died aborning because under our
> agreement with the Conservancy, Sugar Labs was not permitted to establish
> subsidiary groups. So I think the wiki effort should be independent of that
> initiative.


The Conservancy position sort of makes sense, but I understood that a
"Local Lab" is just what Sugar Labs calls a user community, the same thing
that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a poor marketing term,
since it has US-imperial/military overtones.)


> We also need a format where we can gather significant information -
> perhaps a link from this page to a page per deployment.


Right; the https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs page has a directory
like that.


> The key in each case is to have a local contact (e.g. email address) where
> we can get direct answers to questions as they come up and propose
> capabilities which may be of help.


Right; that's what I want to tabulate on the Contact page.


> The questions we need answered go far beyond whether XOs are used inside a
> classroom or elsewhere. For example, if users are allowed to take laptops
> away from the institution, what has been the impact on wear and tare. If
> users 'own' the laptop; how does the institution replace them for incoming
> students.
> How has the Uruguay Plan Ceibal impacted learning in later grades - e.g.
> in readiness to use computers effectively in secondary school learning. The
> list could go on.


All good ideas, I put them into
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Local_Labs_Survey_2016 :)

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Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Dave

On 04/25/2016 09:17 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:

Hi Tony

Would you be willing to post this wonderful email to the group thread? :)


On 24 April 2016 at 21:11, Tony Anderson > wrote:


Hi, Dave

I hope you can continue your quest for information on how XOs are
used in deployments.

(edited)

The strategic need is to establish direct communication with folks
at these deployments to get first-hand information. This direct
communication can put the community in direct contact with the
user community and help us provide more relevant capabilities.

I think this is going to be a deployment-by-deployment process.

I received this in a communication from Anish Mangal:

If the issue is about XO's then perhaps contacting Prof. Nagarjuna
and Rafikh from TIFR, Bombay might yield something, as they have a
deployment in the city and another near it.

And this you may remember from Walter:

I know nothing about G1G1 Round Two but the laptops from the first
round went to many more places than just Mongolia. For example, it
was from that program that the first batch of laptops went to
Caacupé in Paraguay, a program that continues to be robust today.

Caryl Bigenho has supported a deployment at a shelter in Los
Angeles where the residents are not allowed access to the
internet. I haven't heard much on this recently.

The webpage is a good start
(https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs/Contacts). However, it
is connected to the local labs program. You may want to find out
from Walter about its current status. The idea died aborning
because under our agreement with the Conservancy, Sugar Labs was
not permitted to establish subsidiary groups. So I think the wiki
effort should be independent of that initiative.

We also need a format where we can gather significant information
- perhaps a link from this page to a page per deployment. The key
in each case is to have a local contact (e.g. email address) where
we can get direct answers to questions as they come up and propose
capabilities which may be of help. The questions we need answered
go far beyond whether XOs are used inside a classroom or
elsewhere. For example, if users are allowed to take laptops away
from the institution, what has been the impact on wear and tare.
If users 'own' the laptop; how does the institution replace them
for incoming students.
How has the Uruguay Plan Ceibal impacted learning in later grades
- e.g. in readiness to use computers effectively in secondary
school learning. The list could go on.

Tony
Tony




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