Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > I'm curious, what links do we have with the Scratch community? We have > superhero Bert here from the Squeak community :D > There are the obvious MIT MediaLab connections. Back in the day, we hosted Scratch on our

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Laura Vargas
For those of us interested in statistics, I recommend to check out the amazing job they did with this -clear to understand- dashboard: https://scratch.mit.edu/statistics/ A lot to learn, 2016-05-20 0:44 GMT+08:00 Walter Bender : > I had considered rebasing Turtle

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 16:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > For those of us interested in statistics, I recommend to check out the > amazing job they did with this -clear to understand- dashboard: > > https://scratch.mit.edu/statistics/ > > A lot to learn, > Thanks for pointing this

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-05-19 20:40 GMT+08:00 Tony Anderson : > Hi, Laura > > Hi Tony! > Sorry about my confusing message with the digest title. > > No problem :D > I tried the Sugar network several years ago but decided that it was not > usable because it is dependent on internet

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-19 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Alternatively (or perhaps alongside) a lot of schools are moving to Chromebooks these days. http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/03/googles-chromebooks-make-up-half-of-us-classroom-devices.html If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in a Chromebook's web browser or as an

[IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi If we want to grow Sugar's userbase 10x, I think Sugar must run not only on GNU but also Windows and Mac OS X. 1. Rewriting everything in JavaScript for Sugarizer 2. Implementing "Sugar As A Service" with GTK3-Broadway, https://SandStorm.io and https://os.js.org 3. Packaging Sugar to run on

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 19:23, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > I'm curious, what links do we have with the Scratch community? We have > > superhero Bert here from the Squeak community :D > > > > There

[IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-19 Thread Laura Vargas
Hi all, There is a current discussion about the need for a financial manager but at the same time there is a lack of clear vision for the technical direction for the Sugar Labs project. As in free software, in organizations, one should follow what works for others and incorporate and/or adapt

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-19 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 19/05/16 a las 23:16, Samuel Greenfeld escribió: > Alternatively (or perhaps alongside) a lot of schools are moving to > Chromebooks these days. > http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/03/googles-chromebooks-make-up-half-of-us-classroom-devices.html > > If Sugar wants to be used in such environments,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 08:02, Walter Bender wrote: > I don't know how to make these decisions sticky vis-a-vis the reporting > requirements of the Conservancy. They seem to want a full oversight board > vote on every expenditure. Adam, as the nominated single point of

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

2016-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
That's great. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1] > livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon > so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future > > Tom

[IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/scratch-google-next-generation-of-programming-blocks-for-kids-5f377ec9ff0 Interesting evolution of the blocks programming approach :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
I am not sure of my arithmetic. Six mentors at $500 is $3000, so 10% is $300 and 5% is $150. Leaving $2550 or $255 per mentor. Tony On 05/18/2016 02:37 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: Hi On 18 May 2016 at 04:15, Tony Anderson > wrote: In

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > I think motion A could be simplified: > > The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar > Labs Oversight Board and may be either a non-voting officer or one of the > current Oversight Board

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

2016-05-19 Thread Chris Leonard
Tom, Thanks for your work on Live media and for keeping a weather eye out on SoaS. cjl On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1] > livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon > so

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 04:01, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1] > livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon > so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future > AWESOME work Tom!! :D

[IAEP] interesting summary on FOSS project management

2016-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
In light of our recent discussions about migrating more fully to the github infrastructure, I thought community members might find this article from LWN.net of interest. https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/687736/ba8b082ec178312a/ It is nice to know that we are not alone in wrestling with these

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave The 'normal mail': tony_ander...@usa.net is rejected by gmail per some security check installed in January of this year. Sending emails from t...@olenepal.org works because it is a gmail account. I guess I am going to have to register for the lists a second time with the other

Re: [IAEP] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 03:18, Tony Anderson wrote: > Most of the rest is implicit I think there is no hard at all in making what is implicit explicit; to leave things implicit simplifies the text, but complicates the execution. ___

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Laura Sorry about my confusing message with the digest title. I tried the Sugar network several years ago but decided that it was not usable because it is dependent on internet access. Is that still the case? Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 19 May 2016 at 09:02, Tony Anderson wrote: > It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each day. > The digest now doesn't really help as much because almost all emails are > sent to three or more lists. > I agree, there are a lot of lists for a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] interesting summary on FOSS project management

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I suppose "public software" ought to have some kind of license for the general public where could we find such a thing?? lol On 19 May 2016 at 08:17, Walter Bender wrote: > In light of our recent discussions about migrating more fully to the > github

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tony On 19 May 2016 at 08:40, Tony Anderson wrote: > Sorry about my confusing message with the digest title. > Would you consider changing your list preference from digest to seperate-emails? :) Cheers Dave ___ IAEP --

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Dave, It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each day. The digest now doesn't really help as much because almost all emails are sent to three or more lists. I just forget to change the subject. Unfortunately, I am not registered on the lists as t...@olenepal.org and

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Nick Doiron
They don't have a lot of technical details in the post, but reading between the lines, it sounds like Google and Scratch are settling on Google Blockly library? This is the same one used by Code.org in their examples On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Caryl! On 12 May 2016 at 11:08, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > >> Dues are a bad idea! >> Sorry folks >> > > Please could you explain why you think this? > I'm keen to understand your concern :) --

Re: [IAEP] New Scratch Blocks announced at Google IO

2016-05-19 Thread Walter Bender
I had considered rebasing Turtle Blocks to a Blocky library base, but I have never convinced myself it is worth the bother and there are some design decisions I am not happy with (e.g., infix vs prefix) and the general model of how screen space is used. -walter On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:24 AM,

[IAEP] What will we do this year?

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson < sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The SLOBs already seem to have some capital ... the SLOBS should do > something before seeking to raise

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 May 2016 at 11:21, Tony Anderson wrote: > I am not sure of my arithmetic. Six mentors at $500 is $3000, so 10% is > $300 and 5% is $150. Leaving $2550 or $255 per mentor. > Works for me. I updated the motion! :) ___ IAEP

[IAEP] Trip Advisor Agreement?

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas < la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among > activities/teams/projects etc. Hmm. I think the

Re: [IAEP] SLOB Motions A & B

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
I think motion A could be simplified: The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board and may be either anon-voting officer or one of the current Oversight Board members. The Finance Manager will serve at the will of the Board and may be removed and

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 98, Issue 61

2016-05-19 Thread Tony Anderson
I tried this several years ago but decided that it was not usable because it is dependent on internet access. Is that still the case? Tony On 05/19/2016 07:40 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote: Send IAEP mailing list submissions to iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org To subscribe or

[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] f24 Live-Media-Creator for Building Live DVD Remixes

2016-05-19 Thread Thomas Gilliard
I have finally worked out how to Do a livemedia-creator Remix in f24 [1] livecd-creator [2] will be phased out soon so this will be the only way we can do a live remix in the future Tom Gilliard satellit [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_24#livemedia-creator [2]