Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

[samson goddy]

Sorry Sean, but i think you are getting this motion all wrong. First i don't 
think you should step away for anything, like i said it's just a motion. SL can 
decide what to do with it. If it get rejected i won't feel bad, just sad i 
guess for me and dave's time wasted effort. I also promise myself not to create 
any motions regarding making sugar bigger(Socially) after this one because i 
see it as wasted $$ in cyber cafe.

  To make something clear to everyone, I don't intend to do anything that will 
affect this organization. My aim is to make sure i help SL in my own way as a 
contributor. So to answer some of the questions, First i said that the 
monetizing can be debated. So it's up to SLOBs to decide what to do about the 
adsense. Secondly, my marketing objectives is to make SL socially active. And 
yes getting alot of likes and clicks will do SL good because it will get people 
talking. OLPC that is based just on producing machines  they have more 
followers on twitter/Facebook than us(SL) the software provider which is 
extremely bad. How is the activities.sugarlabs.org doing now?, look at the 
success of scratch in MIT media lab, Scratch is one of the main programming 
tool used by kids this days even in Nigeria, when we have something smarter 
than it(Turtleart/block). 

 Why is it like that, i think that we don't want to show the world what we are 
capable of, socially. When was our facebook page created, but what i know for 
sure is that it's over 3 years now and we still have what? 648 likes!. While 
communities like the scratch use the social media as a strategy to get people 
talking, i think they just signed a deal with cartoon network. Now scratch is 
trending topic in the tech world, while don't we use that as our advantage? we 
have scratch activity, why not tell people using the socia media that scratch 
is available in Sugar platform. If we do that, what do you think will happen?

   What do you mean by creating a Facebook-only version of Sugarizer (? if 
there are resources to do so?). I said that SL developers should also ports SL 
java-script project the facebook world for example sugarizer. They are some 
addicted facebook users that just facebook all day. So why won't SL port this 
project so that the addicted users can use. If it's a bad idea, i think is also 
a bad idea to make Sugarizer available on itunes, google playstores, 
chromestore etc. Because what is the point of making this application private 
when people from other world can access our activities. Think about it!

  Yes, we are using the Google AdGrants now. So that is not an issue! PLus, i 
think that there should be a paid manager. If the person is not financially 
strong. E.g like me i spent an average $20 a day in the cyber cafe browsing. 
For me to be the manager(for instance) it's will cost me more $$, when i can 
just get funds from SL to do the work done. So that it will be taken serious. I 
will see it as a responsibility. The SL paid social manager makes sure 
everything is in place by uploading SL work, news update, events, videos online 
etc, for example the same process as the translation manager. If SLOBs think it 
can be volunteer driven, it's for the benefit of SL and i won't be sad.  

 "however major media tech sites won't publish anything about us unless we
 have news, and right now we don't. (Ifeanyi - it's not the case that 
buying ads from news sites will generate coverage, that's not how 
journalists work.)" I don't think that's true, we do have something, that's why 
they are content creators in the community. We give them topic like "why 
Sugar?", "what is sugar?" etc. 

  So dave and I already set up SL accounts which are:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/sugar_labs https://twitter.com/sugarlabs
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SugarLabs-187845102582/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfsR9AEb7HuPRAc14jfiI6g
Google+: https://plus.google.com/b/111673993478233827739/
Instagram: Coming soon!

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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 11:40:53 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media
(Proposal/Motion)

I'm sorry, I don't see how SL can support a new paid position. My suggestion 
would be to evaluate how the paid Translation Manager position works out.

I'm glad Samson you are eager to work on social media (as I've said), however I 
don't understand your marketing objectives. Put another way, just what content, 
from where, will generate lots of likes and clicks, towards what goal? I think 
the goal is developer recruitment, not for teachers or education IT buyers, or 
small donors, or major donors. If they matter too, do we use the same plan and 
tactics for them?

As I've said, I am opposed to associating random advertising with Sugar Labs 
for negligeable income. We should really do 

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

[Dave Crossland]

On 8 June 2016 at 07:11, samson goddy  wrote:
> Nice one mattew, yeah we already proposed $100/Month for ads.

That's $100 for ads on top of the $120,000/year of Google AdWords we
will get to spend thanks to http://www.google.com/grants/

However, the terms of the AdWords grant are that we can't have further
ads on our own pages (which I think is fine)
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

[samson goddy]

Hello dave, can you also add me to the youtube channel?, here is my google+ ID 
https://plus.google.com/102080796483526406108/ . 

> From: d...@lab6.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:52:35 -0600
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> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)
> 
> On 7 June 2016 at 16:50, samson goddy  wrote:
> > Sure I am going to use your help on that.
> 
> Let me know your G+ profiles and I'll add you to the YouTube Channel
> that I've set up:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/c/SugarlabsOrg-EN
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