Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 June 2016 at 17:41, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Your "ageism" is showing. > I'm talking about all adults 18+ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-18 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Dave, Your "ageism" is showing. Caryl (age 79 years young) Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > >> On 17 June 2016 at 01:17, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >> >> 2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-18 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-17 21:37 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > > On 17 June 2016 at 01:17, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> >> >> 2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : >> >>> >>> On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas wrote: >>>

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On 17 June 2016 at 01:17, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > >> >> On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas wrote: >> >>> Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the >>>

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 16/06/16 a las 23:32, Dave Crossland escribió: > >> When I spoke to Rangan a couple months ago, he said that there is >> no demand from the schools that One Education serves for such an >> image. > > It all depends on your intervention principles. In education, *we > see

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the >> conversation on the IEP list. >> > > Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 11:30, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Where is the original text? > > > > The old site was zapped before I could archive anything, so I just use the > Internet Archive Wayback Machine >

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 16 June 2016 at 13:45, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > > El 15/06/16 a las 22:02, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > Hi > > On 15 June 2016 at 12:51, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > >> >> >> On 15/06/16 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: >> > However,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas wrote: > Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the > conversation on the IEP list. > Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at OLPC to join this list. > - OLPC offered XO-1.75 and XO-4 upgrade

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 15/06/16 a las 22:02, Dave Crossland escribió: > > Hi > > On 15 June 2016 at 12:51, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > > > > On 15/06/16 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > > However, http://www.one-education.org has just announced

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-16 22:12 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 14 June 2016 at 21:57, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> ACTION ITEM: Dave will talk with Leah at OLPC on Thursday, and ask what >> their goals are for the next few years, when they will end support for >> XO-1s, and what

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Where is the original text? The old site was zapped before I could archive anything, so I just use the Internet Archive Wayback Machine ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Where is the original text? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Do you think anything should be changed? Yes, the "desktop" reference should be replaced with the original text. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 10:09, Sean DALY wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> I'm confused; what do you think should be changed on the current site? > > > > The homepage says: > Sugar is both a desktop and a collection of Activities.

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 21:57, Dave Crossland wrote: > ACTION ITEM: Dave will talk with Leah at OLPC on Thursday, and ask what > their goals are for the next few years, when they will end support for > XO-1s, and what they would advise in the scenario that we break Sugar for > XOs in

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I'm confused; what do you think should be changed on the current site? The homepage says: Sugar is both a desktop and a collection of Activities. This means something to GNU/Linux developers, but is meaningless to a

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 08:25, Sean DALY wrote: > This was always the case on the old site - it's the new site, which I > hadn't see before it went up, which brought it back. > I'm confused; what do you think should be changed on the current site?

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I think since Sugar launched the rise and now dominance of iOS and Android > - which also do away with the desktop metaphor - means this is no longer as > big a claim as it once was, and I don't think its even worth

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 04:34, Sean DALY wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> There is Sugar (now being referred to as a desktop which is ironic since >> the Sugar HIG were intended to >> replace the desktop metaphor) and the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > There is Sugar (now being referred to as a desktop which is ironic since > the Sugar HIG were intended to > replace the desktop metaphor) and the Sugar activities > I have always vigorously opposed referring to Sugar as a

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 15 June 2016 at 12:51, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > > On 15/06/16 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > > However, http://www.one-education.org has just announced their new > > unit, which is US$260 including tax (but plus shipping from Australia) > > > > Perhaps that

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Sean DALY
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Are they subscribed to this list? Quite. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 June 2016 at 11:02, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > We're "on the road" for a few days so I'm missing all the "fun." I hope > some of the key people like Adam, Tony, Sameer, and Lionel are being > included. They all have great global perspectives and a realistic maturity >

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Sebastian Silva
On 15/06/16 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > However, http://www.one-education.org has just announced their new > unit, which is US$260 including tax (but plus shipping from Australia) > > Perhaps that should be the reference unit? Just saw this closer and it looks like a really nice laptop. It's

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Caryl Bigenho
We're "on the road" for a few days so I'm missing all the "fun." I hope some of the key people like Adam, Tony, Sameer, and Lionel are being included. They all have great global perspectives and a realistic maturity that should be a welcome asset in these discussions. Caryl Sent from my

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Sean DALY
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > However, http://www.one-education.org has just announced their new unit, > which is US$260 including tax (but plus shipping from Australia) > > Perhaps that should be the reference unit? > Interesting but - Running Windows

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 21:57, Dave Crossland wrote: > Should we support the XO-1? > > No: > > The Browse activity is fundementally broken: We can't use old browsers > (webkit v1) on modern websites, and that hardware isn't powerful enough for > new browsers and modern websites either;

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi After the call we are not really closer to concluding the revision of https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 or https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mission_proposal_2016 or https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals But, for me, the call was very interesting for me to hear Walter, Sam,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-14 Thread Laura Vargas
I don't think I'll be able to assist to the Hang Out. Still, in order to facilitate the collaborative construction of our vision statement, I created a pad at https://titanpad.com/SLVision with my personal vision. I hope you all can share it at some point. >From there I hope you all can