Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Lionel Laské]

When I talked about Labyrinth I talked about LabyrinthJS: the one include
in Sugarizer (and ported in JS by me), not the Sugar version.
Regarding eToys it's already included in Sugarizer. I've worked with Bert
on it. Unfortunately eToys use some extended JavaScript so it don't work
very well on mobile browsers. It's why it's not on the favorite view by
default but it's there, you could test it yourself.
Regarding Scratch 3.0, I've already talked with Scratch guys on that at
Bordeaux. Scratch 3.0 is a full rewrite of Scratch in JS. A pre-version is
already playable here [1], source code is here [2]. I don't think it will
be a hard work to integrate it in Sugarizer when it will be ended.

Regards.

   Lionel.

[1] https://llk.github.io/scratch-gui/
[2] https://github.com/LLK/scratch-gui



2017-09-26 22:03 GMT+02:00 Chris Leonard :

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
> wrote:
>
>> Fascinating! Labyrinth was also the favorite of both teachers and
>> students when we were at the EduJam in Uruguay.
>>
>
> Sadly, the upstream home of Labyrinth is more or less dormant.
>
> https://github.com/labyrinth-team/labyrinth
>
> Someone does check in from time to time, so pull requests might be
> welcomed.
>
> cjl
>
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Chris Leonard]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
wrote:

> Fascinating! Labyrinth was also the favorite of both teachers and students
> when we were at the EduJam in Uruguay.
>

Sadly, the upstream home of Labyrinth is more or less dormant.

https://github.com/labyrinth-team/labyrinth

Someone does check in from time to time, so pull requests might be welcomed.

cjl
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Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Caryl Bigenho]

Fascinating! Labyrinth was also the favorite of both teachers and students when 
we were at the EduJam in Uruguay.


Sadly, Rosamel reports that most teachers are not using Sugar now. They are 
actually surprised when they find out it is on their students' machines!


At the moment, she is doing a lot with Etoys. She will be going to Montevideo 
to do an Etoys workshop for other educators. I asked if she could get them to 
record it... she will try. It would be nice to see how she puts it to use.


Is is possible to include Etoys in the mix for Sugarizer on tablets?


Caryl


From: Samson Goddy 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 3:16:44 PM
To: Lionel Laské
Cc: Caryl Bigenho; Walter Bender; Caryl Bigenho; iaep; Adam Holt; Shameer 
Verma; Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony Anderson; James Cameron; Rosa; 
José Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard; Bastien Guerry
Subject: Re: Sugarizer1° Revisited

Lionel, any plans for Scratch 3.0 in Sugarizer?





On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Lionel Laské 
> wrote:
Hi Caryl,

Thanks for your support to Sugarizer.
I remember your Sugarizer Primero idea and as I said to you I'm agree to help 
you as possible.

Here is a short description of our Sugarizer deployment this year (I'm CC 
Bastien so he could give more information):
- The deployment was in a CM1 class in French so Grade 4 for US.
- The deployment was between February 2017 and July 2017
- We've deployed 25 tablets Lenovo A10-30 tablets with a supplementary microSD 
16Gb card with
- Each tablet has a protection and we later add a headphone and a bluetooth 
keyboard for each
- Sugarizer OS - so Sugarizer as an Android launcher - v0.8 was deployed on all 
tablets, we've also included 82 Android activities. Most famous are: GCompris, 
ScratchJr and Wikipedia. The list was decided by Sandrine, our education 
specialist.
- The school had no internet access, we planned to deploy a Sugarizer Server on 
a RaspberryPI with a bunch of content but we didn't had time to finalize it
- The main work done by the teacher with the tablets was:
   * Mind mapping using the Sugarizer Labyrinth activity
   * Scratch using ScratchJR application
   * E-book creation using BookCreator application
- Sandrine had regular contacts with the teacher during the year. We had few 
meetings with her too and we had a meeting with parents at the end of the year

We're starting these days a new deployment in another school with 10 tablets 
(same model). AFAK these tablets will not be dedicated to a specific grade  
this time.

Best regards.

   Lionel.




2017-09-24 20:52 GMT+02:00 Caryl Bigenho 
>:

Hi Walter,


Thanks for replying! Yes, we find things a bit hectic here too... we just made 
our semi-annual move from Montana and are in the midst of unpacking our stuff.


I look forward to seeing what results Lionel gets from his pilot test of 
Sugarizer in a school. Do you know what grade (age) levels he is testing?


We can ask Rosamel for some input. As you probably know she is not only working 
in a school but also is teaching prospective teachers in a local university! 
She really knows her stuff!


I was hoping she could do a survey for us from some of the most successful 
users of Sugar in the schools she worked with.  Her school, which we visited at 
the EduJam, was very impressive. Some of the others ... not so much. 
Teacher/parent "buy in" is very important! If we want to do that, it would be 
good to do it before they go into their summer vacation.


Lionel mentioned someone liking Abecederium. It is a good one for primary 
school, but there may be problems when we try to translate it into other 
languages.


I was thinking that, after releasing a Sugarizer1° there could be other 
specialized versions of Sugerizer... eg Sugarizer+-x/ (specially for math) 
SugarizerCompute (with Pippy and other programming Activities), Sugarizer 
(Music) and so forth! There are so many possibilities.


I see Sugarizer1° as a "trial balloon" where we could get all the kinks out... 
testing, documentation, translations, marketing, distribution and the like. I 
also have a granddaughter in the first grade and her Daddy has his PhD in 
Cognitive Science and Educational Technology. He is a "hard sell" on things 
like this so, if he likes it, you know it is good!


Caryl


From: Walter Bender >
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:18:20 AM
To: Caryl Bigenho
Cc: Caryl Bigenho; iaep; Adam Holt; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma; Lionel Laske; 
Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony 
Anderson; James Cameron; Rosa; José Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
Subject: Re: Sugarizer1° Revisited



On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
> 

Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Samson Goddy]

Lionel, any plans for Scratch 3.0 in Sugarizer?





On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Lionel Laské 
wrote:

> Hi Caryl,
>
> Thanks for your support to Sugarizer.
> I remember your Sugarizer Primero idea and as I said to you I'm agree to
> help you as possible.
>
> Here is a short description of our Sugarizer deployment this year (I'm CC
> Bastien so he could give more information):
> - The deployment was in a CM1 class in French so Grade 4 for US.
> - The deployment was between February 2017 and July 2017
> - We've deployed 25 tablets Lenovo A10-30 tablets with a supplementary
> microSD 16Gb card with
> - Each tablet has a protection and we later add a headphone and a
> bluetooth keyboard for each
> - Sugarizer OS - so Sugarizer as an Android launcher - v0.8 was deployed
> on all tablets, we've also included 82 Android activities. Most famous are:
> GCompris, ScratchJr and Wikipedia. The list was decided by Sandrine, our
> education specialist.
> - The school had no internet access, we planned to deploy a Sugarizer
> Server on a RaspberryPI with a bunch of content but we didn't had time to
> finalize it
> - The main work done by the teacher with the tablets was:
>* Mind mapping using the Sugarizer Labyrinth activity
>* Scratch using ScratchJR application
>* E-book creation using BookCreator application
> - Sandrine had regular contacts with the teacher during the year. We had
> few meetings with her too and we had a meeting with parents at the end of
> the year
>
> We're starting these days a new deployment in another school with 10
> tablets (same model). AFAK these tablets will not be dedicated to a
> specific grade  this time.
>
> Best regards.
>
>Lionel.
>
>
>
>
> 2017-09-24 20:52 GMT+02:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for replying! Yes, we find things a bit hectic here too... we just
>> made our semi-annual move from Montana and are in the midst of unpacking
>> our stuff.
>>
>>
>> I look forward to seeing what results Lionel gets from his pilot test of
>> Sugarizer in a school. Do you know what grade (age) levels he is testing?
>>
>>
>> We can ask Rosamel for some input. As you probably know she is not only
>> working in a school but also is teaching prospective teachers in a local
>> university! She really knows her stuff!
>>
>>
>> I was hoping she could do a survey for us from some of the most
>> successful users of Sugar in the schools she worked with.  Her school,
>> which we visited at the EduJam, was very impressive. Some of the others ...
>> not so much. Teacher/parent "buy in" is very important! If we want to do
>> that, it would be good to do it before they go into their summer vacation.
>>
>>
>> Lionel mentioned someone liking Abecederium. It is a good one for primary
>> school, but there may be problems when we try to translate it into other
>> languages.
>>
>>
>> I was thinking that, after releasing a Sugarizer1° there could be other
>> specialized versions of Sugerizer... eg Sugarizer+-x/ (specially for math)
>> SugarizerCompute (with Pippy and other programming Activities), Sugarizer
>> (Music) and so forth! There are so many possibilities.
>>
>>
>> I see Sugarizer1° as a "trial balloon" where we could get all the kinks
>> out... testing, documentation, translations, marketing, distribution and
>> the like. I also have a granddaughter in the first grade and her Daddy has
>> his PhD in Cognitive Science and Educational Technology. He is a "hard
>> sell" on things like this so, if he likes it, you know it is good!
>>
>>
>> Caryl
>> --
>> *From:* Walter Bender 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:18:20 AM
>> *To:* Caryl Bigenho
>> *Cc:* Caryl Bigenho; iaep; Adam Holt; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma;
>> Lionel Laske; Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony Anderson; James
>> Cameron; Rosa; José Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
>> *Subject:* Re: Sugarizer1° Revisited
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks...
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Perhaps you have been too busy
>>> and overlooked my email about Sugarizer1°.
>>>
>> Things have been a bit chaotic of late :P
>>
>>
>>> I am resending it and hoping to get some honest opinions and
>>> suggestions, especially from those of you who have been interested in and
>>> working with Sugarizer and those of you who are candidates for the Sugar
>>> Labs Oversight Board.
>>>
>>
>> I undestand that Lionel is in the midst of his first pilot test of
>> Sugarizer in a school, although I don't know any of the specifics. It would
>> seem we should consider what he learns from the pilot before executing a
>> plan such as you describe. In the meantime, we should be able to gather
>> some data from the Ceibal team that is already on the ground in UY and in
>> daily contact with teachers and students. Lots we can learn from them.
>>

Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Lionel Laské]

Hi Caryl,

Thanks for your support to Sugarizer.
I remember your Sugarizer Primero idea and as I said to you I'm agree to
help you as possible.

Here is a short description of our Sugarizer deployment this year (I'm CC
Bastien so he could give more information):
- The deployment was in a CM1 class in French so Grade 4 for US.
- The deployment was between February 2017 and July 2017
- We've deployed 25 tablets Lenovo A10-30 tablets with a supplementary
microSD 16Gb card with
- Each tablet has a protection and we later add a headphone and a bluetooth
keyboard for each
- Sugarizer OS - so Sugarizer as an Android launcher - v0.8 was deployed on
all tablets, we've also included 82 Android activities. Most famous are:
GCompris, ScratchJr and Wikipedia. The list was decided by Sandrine, our
education specialist.
- The school had no internet access, we planned to deploy a Sugarizer
Server on a RaspberryPI with a bunch of content but we didn't had time to
finalize it
- The main work done by the teacher with the tablets was:
   * Mind mapping using the Sugarizer Labyrinth activity
   * Scratch using ScratchJR application
   * E-book creation using BookCreator application
- Sandrine had regular contacts with the teacher during the year. We had
few meetings with her too and we had a meeting with parents at the end of
the year

We're starting these days a new deployment in another school with 10
tablets (same model). AFAK these tablets will not be dedicated to a
specific grade  this time.

Best regards.

   Lionel.




2017-09-24 20:52 GMT+02:00 Caryl Bigenho :

> Hi Walter,
>
>
> Thanks for replying! Yes, we find things a bit hectic here too... we just
> made our semi-annual move from Montana and are in the midst of unpacking
> our stuff.
>
>
> I look forward to seeing what results Lionel gets from his pilot test of
> Sugarizer in a school. Do you know what grade (age) levels he is testing?
>
>
> We can ask Rosamel for some input. As you probably know she is not only
> working in a school but also is teaching prospective teachers in a local
> university! She really knows her stuff!
>
>
> I was hoping she could do a survey for us from some of the most successful
> users of Sugar in the schools she worked with.  Her school, which we
> visited at the EduJam, was very impressive. Some of the others ... not so
> much. Teacher/parent "buy in" is very important! If we want to do that, it
> would be good to do it before they go into their summer vacation.
>
>
> Lionel mentioned someone liking Abecederium. It is a good one for primary
> school, but there may be problems when we try to translate it into other
> languages.
>
>
> I was thinking that, after releasing a Sugarizer1° there could be other
> specialized versions of Sugerizer... eg Sugarizer+-x/ (specially for math)
> SugarizerCompute (with Pippy and other programming Activities), Sugarizer
> (Music) and so forth! There are so many possibilities.
>
>
> I see Sugarizer1° as a "trial balloon" where we could get all the kinks
> out... testing, documentation, translations, marketing, distribution and
> the like. I also have a granddaughter in the first grade and her Daddy has
> his PhD in Cognitive Science and Educational Technology. He is a "hard
> sell" on things like this so, if he likes it, you know it is good!
>
>
> Caryl
> --
> *From:* Walter Bender 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:18:20 AM
> *To:* Caryl Bigenho
> *Cc:* Caryl Bigenho; iaep; Adam Holt; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma; Lionel
> Laske; Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony Anderson; James Cameron;
> Rosa; José Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
> *Subject:* Re: Sugarizer1° Revisited
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks...
>>
>>
>> I hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Perhaps you have been too busy
>> and overlooked my email about Sugarizer1°.
>>
> Things have been a bit chaotic of late :P
>
>
>> I am resending it and hoping to get some honest opinions and suggestions,
>> especially from those of you who have been interested in and working with
>> Sugarizer and those of you who are candidates for the Sugar Labs Oversight
>> Board.
>>
>
> I undestand that Lionel is in the midst of his first pilot test of
> Sugarizer in a school, although I don't know any of the specifics. It would
> seem we should consider what he learns from the pilot before executing a
> plan such as you describe. In the meantime, we should be able to gather
> some data from the Ceibal team that is already on the ground in UY and in
> daily contact with teachers and students. Lots we can learn from them.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>>
>> I look forward to a discussion about how we could best make something
>> like this happen to bring the magic of Sugar to children everywhere.
>>
>>
>> Caryl
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Caryl Bigenho on behalf of Caryl Bigenho 

Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi Walter,


Thanks for replying! Yes, we find things a bit hectic here too... we just made 
our semi-annual move from Montana and are in the midst of unpacking our stuff.


I look forward to seeing what results Lionel gets from his pilot test of 
Sugarizer in a school. Do you know what grade (age) levels he is testing?


We can ask Rosamel for some input. As you probably know she is not only working 
in a school but also is teaching prospective teachers in a local university! 
She really knows her stuff!


I was hoping she could do a survey for us from some of the most successful 
users of Sugar in the schools she worked with.  Her school, which we visited at 
the EduJam, was very impressive. Some of the others ... not so much. 
Teacher/parent "buy in" is very important! If we want to do that, it would be 
good to do it before they go into their summer vacation.


Lionel mentioned someone liking Abecederium. It is a good one for primary 
school, but there may be problems when we try to translate it into other 
languages.


I was thinking that, after releasing a Sugarizer1° there could be other 
specialized versions of Sugerizer... eg Sugarizer+-x/ (specially for math) 
SugarizerCompute (with Pippy and other programming Activities), Sugarizer 
(Music) and so forth! There are so many possibilities.


I see Sugarizer1° as a "trial balloon" where we could get all the kinks out... 
testing, documentation, translations, marketing, distribution and the like. I 
also have a granddaughter in the first grade and her Daddy has his PhD in 
Cognitive Science and Educational Technology. He is a "hard sell" on things 
like this so, if he likes it, you know it is good!


Caryl


From: Walter Bender 
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 11:18:20 AM
To: Caryl Bigenho
Cc: Caryl Bigenho; iaep; Adam Holt; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma; Lionel Laske; 
Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony Anderson; James Cameron; Rosa; José 
Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
Subject: Re: Sugarizer1° Revisited



On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
> wrote:

Hi Folks...


I hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Perhaps you have been too busy and 
overlooked my email about Sugarizer1°.

Things have been a bit chaotic of late :P


I am resending it and hoping to get some honest opinions and suggestions, 
especially from those of you who have been interested in and working with 
Sugarizer and those of you who are candidates for the Sugar Labs Oversight 
Board.

I undestand that Lionel is in the midst of his first pilot test of Sugarizer in 
a school, although I don't know any of the specifics. It would seem we should 
consider what he learns from the pilot before executing a plan such as you 
describe. In the meantime, we should be able to gather some data from the 
Ceibal team that is already on the ground in UY and in daily contact with 
teachers and students. Lots we can learn from them.

regards.

-walter


I look forward to a discussion about how we could best make something like this 
happen to bring the magic of Sugar to children everywhere.


Caryl



From: Caryl Bigenho on behalf of Caryl Bigenho 
>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:51:32 PM
To: iaep; Adam Holt; Walter Bender; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma; Lionel Laske; 
Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony 
Anderson; James Cameron; Rosa; José Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
Subject: Sugarizer1° Revisited

Hello All,

I think somewhere some of the people of SugarLabs have “lost their way.” When I 
joined the OLPC support-gang nearly ten years ago and, later, Sugar Labs I was 
excited by the concept of bringing collaborative, constructionism to children’s 
learning all over the world. Later, as the XOs were no longer readily 
available, Lionel’s idea of “Sugar on any device” promised an exciting way that 
this could still actually happen.

Now, I am seeing an attempt by a few individuals to usurp all this and drive 
the program to just a few chosen areas. I believe this is wrong! I believe this 
should be a world-wide movement to improve education of children everywhere! I 
also believe many of you agree with me.

A couple of summers ago I proposed, via a motion, a project that I felt would 
help fulfill that original vision of bringing the magic of learning with Sugar 
to children all over the world. It addressed what have been some of the 
weaknesses in prior projects… principally not meeting the perceived needs of 
children, parents and teachers. Without doing that (which was done, 
masterfully, in Uruguay), Sugar just won’t get used. The prospective users have 
to want to use it. They have to see it as the powerful educational tool that it 
is.

My proposed project would start small, with a special version of Sugarizer 
designed just for children in the first 2 or 3 

Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Walter Bender]

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:

> Hi Folks...
>
>
> I hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Perhaps you have been too busy
> and overlooked my email about Sugarizer1°.
>
Things have been a bit chaotic of late :P


> I am resending it and hoping to get some honest opinions and suggestions,
> especially from those of you who have been interested in and working with
> Sugarizer and those of you who are candidates for the Sugar Labs Oversight
> Board.
>

I undestand that Lionel is in the midst of his first pilot test of
Sugarizer in a school, although I don't know any of the specifics. It would
seem we should consider what he learns from the pilot before executing a
plan such as you describe. In the meantime, we should be able to gather
some data from the Ceibal team that is already on the ground in UY and in
daily contact with teachers and students. Lots we can learn from them.

regards.

-walter

>
> I look forward to a discussion about how we could best make something like
> this happen to bring the magic of Sugar to children everywhere.
>
>
> Caryl
>
>
> --
> *From:* Caryl Bigenho on behalf of Caryl Bigenho 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 22, 2017 9:51:32 PM
> *To:* iaep; Adam Holt; Walter Bender; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma; Lionel
> Laske; Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony Anderson; James Cameron;
> Rosa; José Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
> *Subject:* Sugarizer1° Revisited
>
> Hello All,
>
> I think somewhere some of the people of SugarLabs have “lost their way.”
> When I joined the OLPC support-gang nearly ten years ago and, later, Sugar
> Labs I was excited by the concept of bringing collaborative,
> constructionism to children’s learning all over the world. Later, as the
> XOs were no longer readily available, Lionel’s idea of “Sugar on any
> device” promised an exciting way that this could still actually happen.
>
> *Now, I am seeing an attempt by a few individuals to usurp all this and
> drive the program to just a few chosen areas. I believe this is wrong! I
> believe this should be a world-wide movement to improve education of
> children everywhere! I also believe many of you agree with me.*
>
> A couple of summers ago I proposed, via a motion, a project that I felt
> would help fulfill that original vision of bringing the magic of learning
> with Sugar to children all over the world. It addressed what have been some
> of the weaknesses in prior projects… principally not meeting the perceived
> needs of children, parents and teachers. Without doing that (which was
> done, masterfully, in Uruguay), Sugar just won’t get used. The prospective
> users have to want to use it. They have to see it as the powerful
> educational tool that it is.
>
> My proposed project would start small, with a special version of Sugarizer
> designed just for children in the first 2 or 3 years of school. It would
> begin with a survey of students and teachers in Uruguay who had used Sugar
> Activities in the Project Ceibal program. After finding a small number of
> favorite Activities, say ten to twelve, the first version would be produced
> in both Spanish and English. It would be called Sugarizer1°, or Sugarizer
> Primero because it would be designed especially for children in the
> "primary grades".
>
> When the first versions were ready, they would be tested by children,
> teachers, and parents using all sorts of devices. Surveys to find favorite
> Activities would be done. Ways to use them with classroom lessons would be
> found. Ways to enhance learning at home would be found. Fun things to do
> with Sugar as a family would be found. Documentation of all this would be
> made universally available online. Versions in other languages would be
> added at this point. French would be logical then possibly Hindi, Arabic,
> and Chinese. Other smaller language groups could also be served such as
> Haitian Creole, Aymara, and the like.
>
> For the regular Release Candidate, an energetic “Marketing campaign” would
> be needed with Sugar Labs volunteers going to all sorts of educational and
> open source fairs and conferences, presenting at teacher education
> institutions, and the like. Getting some of the teachers, students, and
> parents from the beta testing stage to write articles, blogs, and the like
> about their experiences would help. Some travel expenses might be incurred
> and some stipends for writers might be appropriate.
>
> As you can see in the paragraph above, many of these steps should cost
> money. For example, a coordinating teacher in Uruguay should be paid to
> conduct the studies there (logically this would be Rosamel Ramirez).
> Possibly educators who work for us as documentation writers should be paid.
> Etc. Etc. Etc.
>
> This proposal needs lots of work. It did 2 summers ago and it still does.
> If others tell me they also feel that *the Magic of Sugar should be for
> children everywhere*, I’ll proceed 

Re: [IAEP] Sugarizer1° Revisited

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi Folks...


I hope you are all enjoying your weekend. Perhaps you have been too busy and 
overlooked my email about Sugarizer1°. I am resending it and hoping to get some 
honest opinions and suggestions, especially from those of you who have been 
interested in and working with Sugarizer and those of you who are candidates 
for the Sugar Labs Oversight Board.


I look forward to a discussion about how we could best make something like this 
happen to bring the magic of Sugar to children everywhere.


Caryl



From: Caryl Bigenho on behalf of Caryl Bigenho 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:51:32 PM
To: iaep; Adam Holt; Walter Bender; Samson Goddy; Shameer Verma; Lionel Laske; 
Laura Vargas; igna...@sugarlabs.org; Tony Anderson; James Cameron; Rosa; José 
Miguel García; Gonzalo Odiard
Subject: Sugarizer1° Revisited

Hello All,

I think somewhere some of the people of SugarLabs have “lost their way.” When I 
joined the OLPC support-gang nearly ten years ago and, later, Sugar Labs I was 
excited by the concept of bringing collaborative, constructionism to children’s 
learning all over the world. Later, as the XOs were no longer readily 
available, Lionel’s idea of “Sugar on any device” promised an exciting way that 
this could still actually happen.

Now, I am seeing an attempt by a few individuals to usurp all this and drive 
the program to just a few chosen areas. I believe this is wrong! I believe this 
should be a world-wide movement to improve education of children everywhere! I 
also believe many of you agree with me.

A couple of summers ago I proposed, via a motion, a project that I felt would 
help fulfill that original vision of bringing the magic of learning with Sugar 
to children all over the world. It addressed what have been some of the 
weaknesses in prior projects… principally not meeting the perceived needs of 
children, parents and teachers. Without doing that (which was done, 
masterfully, in Uruguay), Sugar just won’t get used. The prospective users have 
to want to use it. They have to see it as the powerful educational tool that it 
is.

My proposed project would start small, with a special version of Sugarizer 
designed just for children in the first 2 or 3 years of school. It would begin 
with a survey of students and teachers in Uruguay who had used Sugar Activities 
in the Project Ceibal program. After finding a small number of favorite 
Activities, say ten to twelve, the first version would be produced in both 
Spanish and English. It would be called Sugarizer1°, or Sugarizer Primero 
because it would be designed especially for children in the "primary grades".

When the first versions were ready, they would be tested by children, teachers, 
and parents using all sorts of devices. Surveys to find favorite Activities 
would be done. Ways to use them with classroom lessons would be found. Ways to 
enhance learning at home would be found. Fun things to do with Sugar as a 
family would be found. Documentation of all this would be made universally 
available online. Versions in other languages would be added at this point. 
French would be logical then possibly Hindi, Arabic, and Chinese. Other smaller 
language groups could also be served such as Haitian Creole, Aymara, and the 
like.

For the regular Release Candidate, an energetic “Marketing campaign” would be 
needed with Sugar Labs volunteers going to all sorts of educational and open 
source fairs and conferences, presenting at teacher education institutions, and 
the like. Getting some of the teachers, students, and parents from the beta 
testing stage to write articles, blogs, and the like about their experiences 
would help. Some travel expenses might be incurred and some stipends for 
writers might be appropriate.

As you can see in the paragraph above, many of these steps should cost money. 
For example, a coordinating teacher in Uruguay should be paid to conduct the 
studies there (logically this would be Rosamel Ramirez). Possibly educators who 
work for us as documentation writers should be paid. Etc. Etc. Etc.

This proposal needs lots of work. It did 2 summers ago and it still does. If 
others tell me they also feel that the Magic of Sugar should be for children 
everywhere, I’ll proceed to produce a good formal motion to the board. If there 
is no interest, I won’t waste any more time on it (planning and writing this 
would take many hours of thought, research, and discussion with other Sugar 
Labs members).

What do you all think???

Caryl

P.S. the logo for Sugarizer1° would still be the cute little XO man! He is 
recognized by people all over the world and thus has lots of value as a 
marketing tool. It would be foolish to replace him with anything else.
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