Lha EM ngapain berburu. Shale gas di Polandia, wong dinegaranya aja katanya msh berlimpah dan harganya murah.
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: nyoto - ke-el <ssoena...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:57:57 To: <iagi-net@iagi.or.id> Reply-To: <iagi-net@iagi.or.id> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Shale gas news Yg jelas operatornya EM (Exxon-Mobil) dari negara adidaya & sudah menang perang di Iraq ...? Terus apa hubungannya dg Shale Gas ? Wass, nyoto On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Anggoro Dradjat <adradjat....@gmail.com>wrote: > Nama cekungan yang di Polandia itu apa yaa? shale di formasi apa? kalau > ngak salah yang di Amerika itu kebanyakan berada di Intra Craton Basin dan > dari lingkungan pengedapan Lacustrin, > Kalau yang di Amerika seperti yang dipresentasikan Pak Naslin di UGM, > horizontal layeringnya terlihat jelas adanya Vertikal Transfer Isotropic > yang menggambarkan perbedaan cepat rambat gelombang P secara vertikal, > perubahan TOC dari shale juga tercermin dari sonic resistivity DlogR. > Wah kalau abu-abu isotropic dong, sedikit organiknya dan ngak fracable. > Mungkin lokasinya dipilih dari sweet spot seismic? Tapi seharusnya kan > dilihat dahulu dari data sumur yang ada? apakah sweet spot itu mengambarkan > zona resistivitas yang tinggi dan zona anisotropi dari shale. > Kemungkinan yang lain adalah belum ada data sumur, jadi explorasi banget > buat shale? > Atau operatornya dari negara dengan kekuatan militer terbesar di dunia > tapi ngak pernah menang perang...heee...heeee > > > Salam > Anggoro Dradjat > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:04 PM, nyoto - ke-el <ssoena...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Apakah itu berarti operatornya tertipu atau ditipu atau salah >> interpretasi sebelumnya sehingga mengexecute project tsb ? Rasa2nya >> operator sebesar EM itu dg jumlah PhD nya yg sampai 600 (email cak Avi), >> tidak mungkin deh. Atau ada info2 lain ? >> >> Wass, >> nyoto >> >> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, naslin lainda <nas...@rediffmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Tadi saya barusan ngobrol ama teman yg terlibat di eksplorasi shale gas >>> di polandia ini. Katanya TOC nya rendah dibawah 1%. Dari foto core nya >>> warnanya abu2, bukan seperti black shale yg di US. Jadi kayaknya bukan >>> organic rich shale yg mereka dapatkan. >>> >>> >>> >>> Naslin >>> >>> >>> From: "rakhmadi avianto"rakhmadi.avia...@gmail.com >>> Sent:Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:17:44 +0530 >>> To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id >>> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Shale gas news >>> >>> Dari awal aku memang sudah curiga, mungkin ngga ya Shale Gas >>> Exploration, dg exitnya EM dari Poland saya kira bukan hal yg main2. Saya >>> yg alumnus EM merasa bahwa EM tidak pernah main2 dalam research di Houston >>> setahu saya waktu di sana ada 600an lebih PHD yg kerja di Lab yg diambil >>> dari lulusan hampir seluruh dunia dg GPA yg mendekati 4 yg diterima artinya >>> lulusan Top of the nudge lah >>> >>> > >>> >>> >Untuk Indonesia, mungkin tidak semua shale punya potential jadi Shale >>> Gas, ini yg belum di evaluasi, belum apa2 koq ujuk2 udah sekian TCF emang >>> dari mana dan dasarnya apa? >>> >>> > >>> >>> >Ingat RDP waktu jadi panelis di gas hydrate, acara Pertamina di >>> Kempinski Hotel, RDP mengusulkan harus ada Pilot Project dari Zero ke Hero, >>> artinya research yg ter-integrasi, ada G&G, ada drilling, dll krn >>> menyangkut fracturing dimana ada usaha dari shale yg nature-nya impermeable >>> menjadi permeable, tentu tidak mudah dan tentu perlu dedikasi yg tinggi >>> dalam research ini. >>> >>> > >>> >>> >Salam, >>> >>> >Avi NPA 06666 >>> >>> >Nomor cantik >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Fatrial Bahesti >>> <bahe...@gmail.com<http://ajaxprism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individual&email=bahe...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> Mudah2an shale exit tidak terjadi di Indonesia, melainkan tetap exist >>> for shale gas exploration.. >>> >>> > ExxonMobil in Poland shale exit >>> >>> By Kathrine Schmidt and news wires >>> >>> 18 June 2012 18:00 GMT >>> *Following two disappointing test wells in January, ExxonMobil has >>> made the decision to call off further exploration there, a spokesman said >>> Monday. * >>> >>> "There have been no demonstrated sustained commercial hydrocarbon flow >>> rates in our two wells in the Lublin and Podlasie basins," ExxonMobil >>> spokesman Patrick McGinn told Upstream in an email. >>> >>> "We do not have additional drilling plans in Poland." >>> >>> The supermajor's chief executive Rex Tillerson in March alluded to some >>> of the technical challenges of drilling in rock formations that had >>> initially held high hopes for unconventional production. >>> >>> The US Energy Information Administration has pegged Poland as having >>> among the largest shale reserves in Europe. >>> >>> Nonetheless, ExxonMobil chief executive Rex Tillerson spoke to the >>> technical difficulties there in a New York meeting with analysts in March. >>> >>> “Some of the shales don’t respond as well to hydraulic fracturing,” the >>> news wire quoted Tillerson as saying during a meeting with reporters after >>> his presentation to analysts. “It’s going to take research and time in the >>> lab to understand that.” >>> >>> Reuters said that a government report in March slashed estimates of >>> Poland's shale gas reserves to 346 billion to 768 billion cubic meters, or >>> about one-tenth of previous estimates, denting hopes for an energy source >>> that could play a key role in weaning Europe off Russian gas. >>> >>> Poland has granted 112 shale exploration licences to ExxonMobil, Chevron >>> and other firms, even as some countries, including France and Bulgaria, >>> have banned shale exploration pending further environmental studies. >>> >>> The Poles are keen to wean themselves off their heavy reliance on coal >>> and imported Russian gas, partly due to environmental commitments they face >>> as a European Union member nation. >>> >>> "ExxonMobil realised that commercial extraction was not possible with >>> currently available technology. This is a general problem in Poland that >>> shale rocks are too tight to allow extraction," an industry source told the >>> news wire, asking not to be identified. >>> >>> Abundant shale gas production in Poland poses a potential threat to >>> Russia's supremacy in Europe, where it supplies a quarter of the gas used >>> in the EU. >>> >>> Yet Russian gas export monopoly Gazprom has repeatedly played down the >>> threat and on Monday Sergei Komlev, head of contract structuring and price >>> formation at Gazprom Export, told a conference in London that Polish gas >>> would struggle to achieve the low prices of US shale rivals. >>> >>> "In Poland the price for shale gas will be above $15 per million British >>> thermal units, over three times than in the US where prices will rise to >>> $5-10 (from a current $2.50) once they export gas," Komlev said. >>> >>> Last Wednesday, the government abruptly called off a presentation of a >>> legal framework for the development of shale gas resources, disappointing >>> industry players eager for more clarity before committing further to >>> investing in the sector. >>> >>> "If this draft was published and ExxonMobil later declared it was >>> leaving the country, it would most likely have been a disaster in terms of >>> the country's image," said Piotr Spaczynski, partner at law firm >>> Spaczynski, Szczepaniak & Wspolnicy, which advises foreign oil companies >>> investing in Polish shale. >>> >>> The government now plans to unveil the draft law by the end of the >>> month, and has said it will cover exploration and extraction of oil and gas >>> from both conventional and unconventional sources, including taxation, >>> licensing and environmental issues. >>> >>> "If I were the government, I would scrap all drafts and let companies >>> work, or publish a draft supporting exploration and not one directed at >>> excessive taxation," Spaczynski said. >>> >>> Poland had high hopes for shale after a study by the US Energy >>> Information Association in 2011 estimated Polish reserves at 5.3 trillion >>> cubic metres, enough to cover domestic demand for some 300 years. >>> >>> The government's study in March slashed estimates for recoverable shale >>> gas reserves at 346 to 768 billion cubic metres. >>> >>> Despite ExxonMobil, the world's most valuable energy company, to >>> deciding to scrap exploration, other firms said they remained committed. >>> >>> "(Our company) continues to remain extremely optimistic about the >>> outlook for Polish shale gas," said John Buggenhaggen, exploration director >>> at UK-listed San Leon Energy. >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> <http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline.htm@Middle?> >>> Follow *Rediff Deal ho >>> jaye!<http://track.rediff.com/click?url=___http://dealhojaye.rediff.com?sc_cid=rediffmailsignature___&cmp=signature&lnk=rediffmailsignature&newservice=deals> >>> * to get exciting offers in your city everyday. >> >> >> >
