LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread Hans Visser
I have the following REXX: / REXX / /**/ /*TRACE R */ /*

Re: Command to stop queue of the jes2

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:48:35 -0500, Debbie Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can hold all queues by issuing $T JOBCLASS(*),QHELD=YES Alternatively, you could stop the initiators from selecting any work by issuing $P XEQ hth Debbie Mitchell If you are using a MAS (JES2 shared spool) you

Re: LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread Hans Visser
Gary, No, thats not true. See output below. Time: 13:47:37 DFHSMD.BACK.T153206.SYS3.GOL.J5315 DFHSMD.BACK.T303406.SYS3.GOL.J5315 SYS1.VTOCIX.SYHD99 === SYS1.VTOCIX.SYHD99 Time: 13:47:43 DFHSMD.BACK.T153206.SYS3.GOL.J5315 DFHSMD.BACK.T303406.SYS3.GOL.J5315

Re: LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread TISLER Zaromil
snip The differing datasets are temporary, allocated dynamically by processes running on your system, and you're listing a volume that's designated in your temp pool. Between the time your rexx reads that dataset list, and then reads it again, these easily could have changed. You're not scanning

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Leonard Woren
A big improvement would be to have mappings of DDNames on a TCB-level, i.e. each TCB has its own SYSPRINT/SYSOUT that is mapped in the TIOT to different DD-Names on AS-level. Right concept, but maybe the wrong suggested implementation. There is in fact already support for TCBs having their

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Kline
... but don't underreach. Such a mapping facility should apply not only to SYSPRINT/SYSOUT, but to any DD-Name for any device type. An ambitious programmer could always implement a RYO method. For example, implement SVC screening, intercepting the OPEN SVC to switch the DDNAME field in the

Re: LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread TISLER Zaromil
Sorry. snip - second part: only the dataset name snip should be: - second part: only the last dataset name Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: COBOL Program exhausting below the line storage

2005-11-11 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 07:24 +0800, Ron and Jenny Hawkins wrote: Someone mentioned striping using more storage, but I understand that B/QSAM buffers with Extended Format datasets go above the line. Hmmm, that's kind of interesting. I distinctly remember having a rash of region size issues with

Re: LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
All, Sorry about that. Thought I had the answer. After trying this again myself, several times, with several changes to the REXX code and more diagnostics, I finally hit the books. What your doing looks fine except for one thing listed in the book: Interactive System Productivity Facility

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Kline
Q: How does this work? A: When the init attaches the job step task, it provides a new TIOT for the jst. All that would be required would be to generalize and externalize this support. The initiator is responsible for creating DSAB, TIOT, JCT and other control blocks before the application

Re: HFS vs. zFS?

2005-11-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HFS vs. zFS? snip Talk to me off list if you just want to show them a PDF file served from

How much real is required for 64-bit

2005-11-11 Thread Don Ault
I have a few lpars with 192MB of real defined. Would that be enough for 64-bit testing ? The discussiong seemed to get off track about real storage. You can start testing 64 bit virtual with any amount of real storage. It is virtual storage and only what you use, requires backing in real or aux.

Re: Command to stop queue of the jes2

2005-11-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Helio, I know the command $HQ was used once To keep jobs in specified job queues or all job queues from being executed until you either issue a $AQ command or restart JES2. I think IBM started to change the $HQ to $HA around os/390 v1.1 0 with the command $HQ no longer documented around

Re: LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
Okay, I found the answer, in the book. It says: dataset-var The LMDLIST service uses this variable to establish a position in the list. To start at the beginning of the list set the dataset-var to blanks. To start at a specific data set in the list set the dataset-var to the name of

Fwd: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Ali Serdar Yakut
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ali Serdar Yakut [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Nov 11, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: Re: 3745 , Does anybody remember? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hi, I can not take the device online... Although channel seems to be online, As the path is not validated and can not

Re: LMDLIST, strange behaviour or WAD?

2005-11-11 Thread Hans Visser
Gary, many thanks. now i see the solution, i realize that i've made the same mistake a few years ago. Sometime you learn, sometimes you don't. :-( Hans -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: HFS vs. zFS?

2005-11-11 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Its funny that no one mentioned the most obvious place to keep documentation - printed in a 3 ring binder. Most of the procedures we need in operating our mainframe fit in one 2 binder. Certainly, any procedure that needs to be referenced when the system is down (IPL, SADump, Stand Alone

Re: Fwd: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Claude Richbourg
One other thing to try is this VARY command; V 0820,ONLINE,UNCOND which will bring it online for your system to use. Other than that, is the CHP a block or escon? HTH, Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/05 9:53 AM -- Forwarded message -- From: Ali Serdar Yakut [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How much real is required for 64-bit

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:54:26 -0500, Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: I have a few lpars with 192MB of real defined. Would that be enough for 64-bit testing ? The absolute minimums are documented in the Planning for Installation manual (see cut/paste from

Re: How much real is required for 64-bit

2005-11-11 Thread Jon Brock
In our case, we saw no problem whatsoever in moving from 32-bit OS/390 2.10 to 64-bit z/OS 1.4. We did, however, hit a couple of glitches (in ISV software -- Model 204 and CA-Dispatch) when we finally increased the amount of physical memory allocated to our production LPAR to more than

Re: Fwd: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Ali Serdar Yakut
No paths physically available message is given when I try to online unconditionally. 3745 is connected through parallel cable - optica - escon channel. When I check the MOSS conssole there are parameters to be set - Adapter Type: CADS/BCCA NSC or ESC address Channel Burst Length Data Transfer

Re: SETPROG Command question

2005-11-11 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos
Hi About the problem of IEFACTRT, I has the same problem to add a module of product ASG named IMPACT in Z/os 1.4, and the solution for the problem: (PROGAS - SYS1.PARMLIB) EXIT ADD EXITNAME (SYS.IEFACTRT) MODNAME (ASFACTRT) STATE (ACTIVE) DSNAME (ASFH1.VS360.LOADLIB) EXIT ADD EXITNAME

Re: SORTWKnn question

2005-11-11 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ed Gould wrote on 11/10/2005 08:23:20 PM: On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: I'm all for dynamic SORTWK, but we recently hit a problem that I posted to the List for help. Our installation default number for SORTWK is 3. An application did such a large sort that the work

Re: HFS vs. zFS?

2005-11-11 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:41:54 -0500, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z/OS is an awesome platform, but we really need as a group to get over this silly anti-Windows thing. Sorry, but um, no. We need to accommodate our Windows customers, sure -- they've been taken in and there's little we

Re: HFS vs. zFS?

2005-11-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/11/2005 8:59:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just realized I haven't posted for quite a while. It seems like traffic in general on IBM-Main has been a lot less in the last few months, although yesterday had more posts than usual as of

USN, GAO, SAP, haha

2005-11-11 Thread Jon Brock
I find some of the quotes in this article strangely amusing: http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/erp/story/0,10801,106121,00.html?source=NLT_PMnid=106121 For its part, SAP said in a statement that it applauds the GAO efforts to assist the Department of Defense . . .

Re: HFS vs. zFS?

2005-11-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Nov 2005 08:02:12 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Wunderlich) wrote: I think the strongest shops are those that embrace both platforms. There are strengths in both, and applications for both. The decision to host an application on a particular platform is an it depends business decision that

Re: SMTP inserting extra @ in front of domain Name

2005-11-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Just an additional comment (having just encountered this same problem as well): The @domainname: prefix to the addresses is the standard indication for relayed mail and results (with the NOSOURCEROUTE default) if you specify a FROM address that is from an address that has a different domain

Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Steely
I have auditor's after me.help! I need a RACF report which will show ID and password interval. I know RACF has a report writer utility, but I don't have time to do the research on how to get the information I need. We are z/OS V1R4. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Wilson
RACF report writer cannot do this for you. What reporting tools do you have? Vanguard Consul RACFICE Etc. Kind Regards Mark Wilson Mobile: +44 (0) 7768 617006 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Friday,

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Steely
The only Reporting tool we have is Easytrieve. Not much. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wilson Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Racf Reports RACF report writer cannot do

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Alan C. Field
Mark Its been a while but I think the SETR will show what you want - I haven;t got a RACF system to verify. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: Fwd: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:22:47 +0200, Ali Serdar Yakut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No paths physically available message is given when I try to online unconditionally. 3745 is connected through parallel cable - optica - escon channel. When I check the MOSS conssole there are parameters to be set -

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:47:33 -0600, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have auditor's after me.help! I need a RACF report which will show ID and password interval. I know RACF has a report writer utility, but I don't have time to do the research on how to get the information I need. We

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Alvaro Quintupray B.
Hello. I see that you suffers with the auditors...like me. First step. Unload from RACF DB to flat file. //*-- //*HACE UNLOAD DE BASE RACF A UN ARCHIVO PLANO //*--

Re: Fwd: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Brad S Carson
Ali, From what I'm seeing here it look like the 3745 doesn't have the subchannel address set properly. This is the last two bytes of the device address (i.e. XXUU). From one of the 3745 configuration screens (Its been a while and I can't remember which), you need to set the unit address

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/11/2005 11:35:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark, since you don't have any of the reporting products the best you can do is give the global setting without RYO code. You can unload the RACF DB to a flat file using IRRDBU00 and use whatever

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Wilson
Alan, Unfortunately, not what Mark asked for. He needs a list of Userids each expiry date. SETR will only show the system defaults at Userid creation time. These can be overridden of altered. Mark needs to run a report against the RACF database and list all the Userids and the fields he

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Richard Pinion
Hopefully the auditors are bilingual! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/2005 12:37 PM Hello. I see that you suffers with the auditors...like me. First step. Unload from RACF DB to flat file. //*-- //*HACE UNLOAD DE BASE RACF A UN ARCHIVO

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:34:39 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:47:33 -0600, Mark Steely wrote: I have auditor's after me.help! I need a RACF report which will show ID and password interval. I know RACF has a report writer utility, but I don't have time to do the research on how

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Ray Mullins
Been there, done that, works very nicely, actually. I wrote the code 11+ years ago, it's had only one fix since then. Hit me up off-list if you want more info. Best regards, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin

Quick HMC console question

2005-11-11 Thread Len Rugen
Ok, Friday play day question. I decided to dust off my sandbox LPAR to test a new version of ThruPut Manger. This LPAR hasn't been running in awhile, so when I get to the datacenter, I find the 3274 controller has died. I decide to use the HMC console to get things going, but I'm stuck. I

Re: Quick HMC console question

2005-11-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Rugen Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Quick HMC console question Ok, Friday play day question. I decided to dust off my sandbox LPAR to

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Staller, Allan
snip //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=6M //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * LU * /* // /snip This has the added benefit of generating so much output the auditor may give up and go away!!! HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: How much real is required for 64-bit

2005-11-11 Thread Skip Robinson
At several SHAREs I gave a pitch on this conversion. The last time was in Boston to a nearly empty room: I'm done with it. Check the proceedings for Session 2839 SHARE 105. . . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595

Re: Quick HMC console question

2005-11-11 Thread Brian Peterson
The below is an excellent suggestion and may well be sufficient for your needs. However, remember that the complete NIP syslog is available if you take a stand alone dump of your failing system. Since JES2 hasn't started yet, the system will be pretty small, so a stand alone dump will probably

Re: HFS vs. zFS?

2005-11-11 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
R.S. wrote: Demagoguery. Er, pardon?? I can put my Winodows doc (I could if I had any) on *another PC*. I have bunch of PCs in my shop, and even at home. I don't have too many mainframe CPCs, do you ? I remember pain in the **s, when, after POR, all the systems were un-IPLable.

Looking for a copy of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers 1999

2005-11-11 Thread Linda Hagedorn
Hi, Does anyone have a copy of 'Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers (Paperback - 1999) by Carmine A. Cannatello' they'd like to sell? It's out of print. I'm in the NY/NJ/CT area. Thanks, Linda

Re: Looking for a copy of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers 1999

2005-11-11 Thread ibm-main
Whoa !!! Just had a look on Amazon - where I imported my copy from a couple (er, few ??) years back. Holy mackeral !!!. Mine sits next to Linux Kernel Development and Linux Device Driver tomes. How things have changed. Sorry, mine's unavailable. I'm an old Sysprog - never toss anything out.

Re: Fwd: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Mike Maylone
Since you are trying to vary 0820 online, the correct setting at the MOSS console for the NSC or ESC address would be 20. In nearly all cases I ever ran across the default settings for the other parameters were correct, or at least would be close enough that the 3745 could be brought online

Re: Looking for a copy of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers 1999

2005-11-11 Thread Linda Hagedorn
Will you will it to me? It may be the only way I can afford one. :) I wrote to the publisher; if they reply with any good info, I'll pass it along here. Best regards, Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Quick HMC console question

2005-11-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:00:30 -0600, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The below is an excellent suggestion and may well be sufficient for your needs. However, remember that the complete NIP syslog is available if you take a stand alone dump of your failing system. Since JES2 hasn't

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Steely
Thanks, for every one who responded. The technique below is just what I needed to produce the reports. Thanks again for the response. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alvaro Quintupray B. Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:38

Re: Quick HMC console question

2005-11-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/11/2005 3:21:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: would reply END to the message, then Y to the others. IF JES2 comes up, then log onto the system and fix the error. Shouldn't be too much difference between test and prod. Maybe just copy over

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/10/2005 at 03:30 PM, Michael Knigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm running as a started task with several DD-Statements within my JCL. Now I need to run a program (let's say PROG) within my application. My application supports multiple threads and it may be needed to

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/11/2005 at 06:09 AM, Leonard Woren [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Here's a philosophical question that's been nagging me for decades: If the INIT (IEFIIC or whatever) processes JOB JCL, allocating the datasets and doing the ATTACH, and if even STCs and TSUs have invisible

Re: DD-Statements on a per thread basis ?

2005-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/11/2005 at 01:39 PM, Arthur Fichtl [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I would like to extend the question of Michael Knigge to the case of Stored Procedure Address Spaces. In this case, we don't have multiple threads on the application level, but independent programs running

Re: Looking for a copy of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers 1999

2005-11-11 Thread ibm-main
From: Linda Hagedorn Will you will it to me? Despite my (unfortunate as it turns out) use of old Sysprog hopefully you will be in for a bit of a wait before I shuffle off this mortal coil. And no comments from you lot in the peanut gallery - how about you all just sit down and keep quiet

Re: Looking for a copy of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers 1999

2005-11-11 Thread Joe Zitzelberger
On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:47 PM, ibm-main wrote: I wrote to the publisher; if they reply with any good info, I'll pass it along here. I think you can get this on Amazon.com. They have copies of both editions for sale. --

Sysplex and CPU Questions

2005-11-11 Thread Mohamed Juma
In Sysplex Environment: 1. Is it required or recommended in Sysplex system with DB2 data sharing to have more than one CP in the CPC. 2. Which is better to have CPC with one CP as example 200 Mips, or CPC with two CPs each 100 Mips. Thanks Mohamed Juma

Re: 3745 , Does anybody remember?

2005-11-11 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Ali, I have 3745s connected via both IBM and Optica converters. I do remember the IBM CE saying that the channel interface on the 3745 box had to be at the correct microcode level to support converter usage. Regards Bruce Hewson