In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
04/12/2006
at 02:29 PM, andy corpes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Currently, we use region=0M for all of our batch jobs without any
noticeable problems.
It's not my dog.
What is the groups opinion on this issue.
I don't know about the group, but IMHO you're living
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/11/2006
at 07:52
Sorry I haven't had a chance to respond you your assistance and replies,
but there was more pressing business that required my attention. I'm
presently rounding up all the pieces that I can find that make up the load
module. I have secured the Enterprise COBOL manuals. I checked linklst
Where's TSO COPY documented? I just got to wondering idly how hard it would
be to write a clone or semi-clone (without the bugs, or at least with new
and better bugs) in Rexx. It's not in the TSO commands manual (okay, it's
not a TSO command). I don't see any likely manual in the TSO bookshelf.
Try to find a copy of TSO Data Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST, MERGE User's
Guide and Reference . I haven't looked, but I went to OS/390 V2R4 and did
a search in the TSO bookshelf, and found that hit.
Check the pubs site - maybe it's still orderable.
Later,
Ray
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In a message dated 4/12/2006 1:10:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Does anyone know when SHARE - Baltimore registration will be available?
Keep checking their website at _http://www.share.org/_
(http://www.share.org/) or this one
From the TSO HELP members:
COPY
)F FUNCTION-
THE COPY COMMAND IS USED TO DUPLICATE A SEQUENTIAL OR
PARTITIONED DATA SET OR A MEMBER OF A PARTITIONED DATA
SET, TO ADD A MEMBER TO AN EXISTING PARTITIONED DATA SET,
OR TO MERGE TWO PARTITIONED DATA SETS.
)X SYNTAX -
COPY
what are the bytes around the PSW address, particularly before, It would be
nice to see the instruction that caused the error and a few leading up to
it.
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Not on the V2R10 CDs but I may have an earlier one somewhere.
maybe it's still orderable.
Not THAT curious! g
Charles
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Thanks. I was too lazy to see if my (not licensed for the add-on product)
TSO HELP had this info. Unlike some of you folks, I'm not signed onto TSO
all day.
Gee, how hard could it be to write COPY 'DSN1' 'DSN2' in Rexx? I suppose the
entire PDS would be a little tricky. I'd leave out the
To put some perspective on the 'upward compatibility' issue with respect
to various platforms: our copies of the TSO DATA UTILITIES were last link
edited in 1976. They work as well today as when they were installed.
We had a bit of a battle during Y2K remediation because some people felt
that
All this chat about COPY, FORMAT, LIST, MERGE.
It seems a lot of people didn't think much of this product - more later.
Fortunately I didn't know how rubbishy this product was and I found a good
use for it, specifically COPY.
I used to run a number of systems under VM which shared a system
I'm looking for a free or very inexpensive utility ***available in source
code form*** that would convert an arbitrary mainframe file to a character
(such as hex) format, and back again.
I've got a situation where I must access a client mainframe through
Hummingbird running on MS Remote Desktop.
Print is usually synonymous with list in DP circles, and since the statement
is wrong either way, ...
Excuse me?
List/type/cat displays a file to the STDOUT.
Are you saying that that is an incorrect statement?
Are we arguing semantics?
What word would you like to use to say:
Take the
In a recent note, Charles Mills said:
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:54:19 -0700
I've got a situation where I must access a client mainframe through
Hummingbird running on MS Remote Desktop. I can't get a file from my PC to
the remote desktop due to security, but I can get a clipboard
On Apr 12, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Chase, John wrote:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of George Bly
[ snip ]
Last upgrade in my small shop cost for just ISV software was
$300,000 in just upgrade fees. I didn't need to change one
piece of code. That's hard
1) Could RNL=NO be the issue that causes the ENQ to fail?
3) Is there latency in the updating of the catalog by IDCAMS?
What makes you think the ENQ has failed? There is certainly latency in
updating the catalog between the catalog address spaces on the different
systems. Are you using the
IIRC the proper name is TSO Command Utilities (5734-???)
25+ years ago bits are starting to drop.
Ed
On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
Where's TSO COPY documented? I just got to wondering idly how hard
it would
be to write a clone or semi-clone (without the bugs, or at least
On 4/12/06, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excuse me?
List/type/cat displays a file to the STDOUT.
Are you saying that that is an incorrect statement?
Most UNIX comands display their output to STDOUT. The normal behavior
of cat is to print its *output* to STDOUT. However it's reason
However it's reason
d'etre is indicated by its name, short for catenate. It's purpose is
to take multiple files and catenate all the input into a single output
stream.
And, catenate is intuitive?
My point was that all OS's have a LIST command.
I was told that LIST was an invalid description of
Whose security? Someone's job security? I don't know. Seriously, the
client's security. In fairness, let me say the client has more reason than
most to be careful about such things.
Nope, no e-mail on remote desktop. That would be too easy. A very bare-bones
Windows desktop with Hummingbird and
On 4/12/06, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point was that all OS's have a LIST command.
I was told that LIST was an invalid description of what the command did.
What word would you pick?
I would use
grep '.*'
or perhaps
awk '{print}'
or you could even just use
dd
and leave out
Ed Gould wrote;
I cannot say if the cost is more in PC land than in MF land.
I just don't have the background in the PC arena. The two
(was three) major vendors have been raked over the coals by
just about everyone on here. So there is no use in namimg
them again.
Not to pick on Ed, but
Welcome to the Borg Collection. Resistance is futile!
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 SYSN 6:57 PM
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Ed Gould wrote;
I
At the risk of starting a never ending thread:
Today, we just don't look at how much mainframe hardware and software costs.
Rather, we need to look at the value it brings in support of a business's
strategic
direction.
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There have been some good discussions in the past which suggest that the
DFP access methods don't use STARTIO directly.
Sam, that sounds like semantics. Most of the non-VSAM access methods
(xSAM, BPAM, BDAM) issue EXCP SVCs, and EXCP invokes STARTIO. In that
sense they are indirect. VSAM
Welcome to the Borg Collection.
Actually it is Bord Collective. The Borg Collection is probably
something you buy from one of those collectible stores gr
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:57 PM
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Subject:Re: Mainframe Evil
BTW
On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Bruce Black wrote:
Welcome to the Borg Collection.
Actually it is Bord Collective. The Borg Collection is probably
something you buy from one of those collectible stores gr
Bruce,
I think he misspoke I think he meant Welcome to the CA Imperial Army
In a recent note, Charles Mills said:
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:13:11 -0700
My mainframe to mainframe sequence is FTP from my mainframe to my desktop
using desktop FTP client. Open file in NoteTab*. Copy to clipboard. Toggle
to remote desktop Hummingbird. Transfer file from
Kirk Wolf writes:
I don't see the SOD re: Apache in the referenced announcement. Can
you provide a link?
It's on page 6 (left hand column, about 40% from the top) in the
announcement letter:
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/7/897/ENUS206-077/ENUS206-077.PDF
Just search on Apache if you
Charles Mills wrote:
Gee, how hard could it be to write COPY 'DSN1' 'DSN2' in Rexx? I suppose the
entire PDS would be a little tricky. I'd leave out the bug-prone numbering
options. What does LRECL/RECFM do? Let you re-block if you are creating an
entire dataset? ASCII? I probably skip that
Clark Morris writes:
So will you be able to compile COBOL programs that can run in 64 bit
mode inside of Websphere? Can they interoperate with JAVA and will
they finally recognize IEEE floating point so that NO conversions are
needed to work with JAVA.
Really good questions. All I know at this
My esteemed colleague writes:
I think you hit the nail on the head here Steve. I volunteer to help
with
Universities in Arizona for the IBM Academic Initiative. 2 of the 3
Universities have been approached in Arizona and the heads of the CS
departments have stopped IBM in their tracks saying
I'll have to officially call this a rumor and only specify the general
parameters, but I'll see what I can say.
Apparently there's some group sponsored by some software company that
alleges that it makes business sense to move everything away from the
mainframe to an unreliable, expensive,
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