Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Well, IMHO, there are a lot of pressure on companies worldwide to keep costs low, the result is more and more sysprogs are pushed upward towards management so cheaper sysprogs can come from the OPS ranks. Especially banks and telecoms companies use this strategy. Herbie -Original

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread R.S.
Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: Well, IMHO, there are a lot of pressure on companies worldwide to keep costs low, the result is more and more sysprogs are pushed upward towards management so cheaper sysprogs can come from the OPS ranks. Especially banks and telecoms companies use this strategy.

TSO Rexx and SDSF

2007-02-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have heard a rumor that in z/OS V1.9 there is to be a TSO REXX interface to SDSF (or vise versa). I did not see anything in the presentations at Share in Tampa and was wondering if anyone had anymore details. The TSO-REXX newsgroup did not have any details. Also, do you know when the

Re: TSO Rexx and SDSF

2007-02-27 Thread Wayne Driscoll
According to the Feb 13 z/OS 1.9 Preview announcement http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/fcgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ansubtype= caappname=Demonstrationhtmlfid=897/ENUS207-018 SDSF is being enhanced to add the capability to provide access to SDSF functions through REXX variables. The variables will

Re: TSO Rexx and SDSF

2007-02-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Wayne, Exactly what I was looking to find. Lizette Snip - According to the Feb 13 z/OS 1.9 Preview announcement http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/fcgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ansubtype= caappname=Demonstrationhtmlfid=897/ENUS207-018 SDSF is being enhanced to add the

Re: HSM Missing Member from Recalled Dataset -- Update

2007-02-27 Thread Chase, John
Background: Over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend (U.S.) we relocated our datacenter. We moved the mainframes' DASD volumes via DFSMSdss DUMP FULL at the old site, followed by RESTORE FULL at the new site. On the day the DUMP FULL of every volume was taken, a TSO user had recalled a migrated

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of r hey Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: sysprog demand in USA There hasn't been much demand for sysprogs in Australia in the last 2 years. How

Re: KSDS immedial write

2007-02-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arie Kremer Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: KSDS immedial write I hope your boss was together with the end users. Less trouble. If no

Re: KSDS immedial write

2007-02-27 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: KSDS immedial write snip Would ESDS with AIX not be the ticket? There will be no CI or CA splits (with

Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS

2007-02-27 Thread Betsy Jeffery
I've got a developer just starting to use JAVA 1.4 under USS (z/OS 1.4 soon to be z/OS 1.7). I'm wondering what people are using as a general rule for TSO initial region size for JAVA developers. I don't like the idea of 256M per session - which is what I had to give this guy just to get

Re: Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS

2007-02-27 Thread Bob Shannon
Unfortunately 256Mb for Java may be low. Configure real storage and aux appropriately and live with the new order. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS

2007-02-27 Thread Big Iron
You can use the getrlimit service to increase the region limit up to the hard limit, which IIRC is set from BPXPRM00 or the user profile. There is an example of invoking this from REXX at http://members.tripod.com/billlalonde/rexx/setrlim.txt So you would invoke that with setrlim rlimit_as

SMS / ISMF

2007-02-27 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi, Quick question about running ACS test cases. I have a piece of my DC ACS that checks userid and volume requested and redirects based on that. When I run my test case, it properly assigns the correct DC when the user matches. When the user doesn't match, I get DC = null value

Re: Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS

2007-02-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Jeffery Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS I've got a developer just starting to use JAVA 1.4 under

Re: TSO Rexx and SDSF

2007-02-27 Thread Dave Danner
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:25:42 -0500, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard a rumor that in z/OS V1.9 there is to be a TSO REXX interface to SDSF (or vise versa). I did not see anything in the presentations at Share in Tampa and was wondering if anyone had anymore details.

Re: SMS / ISMF

2007-02-27 Thread John Kington
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 02/27/2007 10:33:09 AM: Here's the question: Assuming no userid match above, will the ACS exit and pass control back to CA-Allocate? CA-Allocate will always see the allocation. You should check the STORCLAS or STORGRP variable.

Re: Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS

2007-02-27 Thread Hal Merritt
Welcome to the brave new world. This stuff is *very* memory intensive. Start thinking orders of magnitude bigger. Once upon a time, K was big. Then meg. Now, gig is peanuts. Some may argue differently, but I submit that constraining main storage is just a superstition left over from the bad old

Re: Memory Allocation for JAVA under USS

2007-02-27 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Betsy Jeffery I've got a developer just starting to use JAVA 1.4 under USS (z/OS 1.4 soon to be z/OS 1.7). I'm wondering what people are using as a general rule for TSO initial region size for JAVA developers.

VSAM Buffers Default Location

2007-02-27 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, Reading thru the VSAM Demystified Redbook (Sept. 2003), I saw the statement that (for batch, anyway) VSAM resource pools (i.e., control blocks and buffers) _DEFAULT_ location is below the 16MB line. Is that still true at z/OS 1.7? TIA, -jc-

tn3270e server

2007-02-27 Thread Anne Crabtree
We are running z/OS 1.7 and would like to move the TN3270E server out of the TCP/IP stack and run it in it's own address space. Are there any issues we should be aware of? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Warning on IBM APAR OA17011

2007-02-27 Thread Alan Schwartz
Early in January Russ Witt sent the list a warning about the implications apar OA17011 could have on tape retention. We've had some discussions about this apar internally; not concerning the technical impact but the fact that there was no hold on it. I'm not suggesting that it should have a

Perl or Not?

2007-02-27 Thread Jousma, David
Ok, I'm confused. With my z/OS 1.8 Serverpac I ordered IBM Ported Tools for z/OS . Assuming that means SSH and Perl. So, I'm on ShopZseries ordering other updates, and see IBM Ported Tools for z/OS: Perl for z/OS. So I order it, thinking it is separate. I try to receive it, but it has the

Re: tn3270e server

2007-02-27 Thread John Hamman
We're still at z/OS 1.6 and have separated the telnet server out of the TCP stack with no issues. John Hamman Systems Programmer BlueCross BlueShield of Mississippi 601.664.4410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * The information contained in this message, and attachments hereto, may be

Re: KSDS immedial write

2007-02-27 Thread Hal Merritt
Keep in mind that your application will be dreadfully slow and simply will not scale. Even with modern DASD with response times in the sub millisecond range. Consider that each logical write may drive several physical operations. Ask your DASD czar what the unit response times are, and do the

Re: SMS / ISMF

2007-02-27 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi John, Thanks for the clarification. Thanks! *BobL* -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS / ISMF IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Warning on IBM APAR OA17011

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:29:05 -0600, Alan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm asking the group when you're applying preventative maintenance do you read and analyze the cover information for every ptf being applied? We've always looked at the hold info for all ptf's needing a bypass

REXX APIs (Wanted: SMP/E)

2007-02-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
While the topic of REXX APIs has resurfaced, I'd like to add an observation and a couple wishes: It's possible, with some planning, to design a CALLable API to be REXX-friendly. ICSF is an example. The chief requirement is that all control blocks and communication areas be passed to the API as

Re: SMS / ISMF

2007-02-27 Thread John Kington
Bob, I shot from the hip with my answer. If you set PLSOPT10 to Y in your parms, CA-Allocate will see the sms managed allocation. If you set it to N or allow it to default to N, your ASR will not see the allocation. Sorry for the wrong answer. Regards, John

Re: Warning on IBM APAR OA17011

2007-02-27 Thread R.S.
Mark Zelden wrote: [...] IBM has been trying to make the amount of holddata you need to go through in order to apply maintenance, less not more. For example, changing ++ACTION holds to ++IPL so you can ignore those when applying to a maintenance sysres that you know will be rolled out with an

Re: VSAM Transparency, Transactional VSAM Services, or IAM

2007-02-27 Thread Hal Merritt
If your long term goal really is DB2, then start now. Going through an interim step simply makes the eventual conversion far more expensive. If you can't afford to do it right the first time, then when will you be able to afford to do it over? But be aware that there may be political games

Re: tn3270e server

2007-02-27 Thread Knutson, Sam
We have used this feature starting on z/OS R6 and it has worked well for us. It is the recommended configuration. The Communications Server folks have been good about providing plenty of encouragement and warning to remove obsolete parameters and leverage features that are recommended that will

Re: Warning on IBM APAR OA17011

2007-02-27 Thread Alan Schwartz
I agree with you fully Mark. My point was we both would have missed the ptf. And for the icing on the cake the ptf (in my case UA28410) was superseded by another ptf (UA90306). The newer one does have a DOC hold and some IPL holds but nothing in the ptf would lead you to be concerned about

Re: VSAM Buffers Default Location

2007-02-27 Thread Chase, John
_ Hi, All, Reading thru the VSAM Demystified Redbook (Sept. 2003), I saw the statement that (for batch, anyway) VSAM resource pools (i.e., control blocks and buffers) _DEFAULT_ location is below the 16MB line. Is that still true at z/OS

Re: KSDS immedial write

2007-02-27 Thread Friske, Michael
Not-deferred is the default when writing to a VSAM KSDS, so if you are getting deferred writes it is because something is overriding the default. Did you specify MACRF=DFR on your ACB? Did System Managed Buffering (SMB) get invoked? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

z/OS V1R8 WLM CICS Performance Observation

2007-02-27 Thread Jim Marshall
We run CICS TS ADABAS and saw some performance issues with CICS transactions in z/OS V1R7 although not very bad. When we brought up z/OS V1R8 we are seeing high level of delays in CICS transactions when they are going to redispatch queue. Talking to IBM lab folks they are telling us it is not

Extraneous DD names in DFSORT step?

2007-02-27 Thread Big Iron
These DD statements are necessary if SORT exits have been provided in object format and so need to be linkedited. For more information, RTFM re the MODS statement, Bill Tim Burkart wrote: I have never seen this before. I have run across SORT JCL that contains these three DD names. //SORT

Re: z/OS V1R8 WLM CICS Performance Observation

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Samson
Jim, There's not enough information yet. Are you running CICS with response time goals? Are they being met? If you are using velocity goals only, are those goals being met both before and after the queue buildup? Input! Input! Steve Samson Jim Marshall wrote: We run CICS TS ADABAS and

3592 reading other tapes, 3480, 3590, etc?

2007-02-27 Thread Pinnacle
Will a 3592 drive read other tapes, like a 3480, 3490, 3590, etc? None of the sales literature on the web says one way or the other. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: 3592 reading other tapes, 3480, 3590, etc?

2007-02-27 Thread McKown, John
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Re: 3592 reading other tapes, 3480, 3590, etc?

2007-02-27 Thread Mark Pace
On 2/27/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. To expand on that, 3480/3490, 3590, and 3592 are physically different cartridges. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

DYNAMIC I/O ENQUEUE IOS513E

2007-02-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
Hi! When doing an software activation in HCD from IODF51 to IODF53 we got the following message in one of our system in the sysplex. Only an OS group change of som devices we try to do. IOS513E ACTIVATE STILL WAITING FOR OLD EDT TO BE DELETED Display of that EDT: D IOS,CONFIG(EDT)

Data Spaces or Hiperspaces

2007-02-27 Thread Tom Savor
Is this possible or feasible from an Batch application standpoint ?? 1). Build data (create) into a Data Space or a Hiperspace in 1 Batch job. 2). Access this data in many following Batch jobs. 3). At the end of Batch cycle, delete #1's Data Space or Hiperspace. If possible to do, then which

Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces

2007-02-27 Thread David Day
I have no experience with Hiperspaces, but have coded data spaces on a number of occasions. If you're going to play by the rules, the data space is tied to the address space that creates it, so if you do this, you have to keep the address space that does the create around. Other than that,

Re: DYNAMIC I/O ENQUEUE IOS513E

2007-02-27 Thread Raymond Noal
Tomas, What was the format of your ACTIVATE command? Did you use the FORCE option? HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomas Larsson

Re: DYNAMIC I/O ENQUEUE IOS513E

2007-02-27 Thread Tomas Larsson
Raymond, I don't activate with force. The only change in configuration was to make some devices OFFLINE instead on ONLINE. The devices is already OFFLINE in the system, but I want them to be OFFLINE when IPL'ed. Regards Tomas L

Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces

2007-02-27 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Day Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces I have no experience with Hiperspaces, but have coded data spaces on a

Re: z/OS V1R8 WLM CICS Performance Observation

2007-02-27 Thread Norman Hollander
I agree with Steve (a typical occurrence), more info is needed. At z/OS 1.7, did you routinely see your processor at 100% busy? What about the other LPARs on the box (if there are any)? Weights properly set? The reason for this line of questioning: if you were routinely running just under

Re: Data Spaces or Hiperspaces

2007-02-27 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Tom, DLF has restrictions on the kinds of data you can use it for but it can do exactly this and comes with z/OS for free. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea5j700.pdf Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management

Re: DYNAMIC I/O ENQUEUE IOS513E

2007-02-27 Thread Jim Mulder
Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 02/27/2007 06:20:11 PM: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomas Larsson Sent: Tuesday, February 27,

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
I really don't think too many American companies are moving mainframe computers to foreign countries, unless the business presence in the foreign country demands a mainframe. I have to believe that most companies want their mainframe at home on American soil where it is safe, and easy to

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread FRASER, Brian
John Deere Technology Center Cyber City, Magarpatta City, Hadapsar -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric N. Bielefeld Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sysprog

adTo save a mainframe

2007-02-27 Thread Steve Comstock
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Re: HFS Directory

2007-02-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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Re: info on limits to lines of code, size, memory, etc

2007-02-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/26/2007 at 09:39 AM, Steven Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I m looking for information ( manuals, other resources) on size limits on the mainframe Working on an Cobol application that is quite large, currently almost 100 000 lines of code and growing. About 100

Re: SMPE packaging - load modules or CSECTs

2007-02-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/26/2007 at 08:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: o Vendors like to keep things simple for the customer and minimize the customer's opportunity to install unexpected configurations. The second contradicts the first. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: SMPE packaging - load modules or CSECTs

2007-02-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/26/2007 at 10:23 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hmmm. Sounds like the way overlays (used to) work. Overlays never worked that way. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html

DB2 versus VSAM was Re: VSAM Transparency, Transactional VSAM Services, or IAM

2007-02-27 Thread Clark Morris
On 27 Feb 2007 08:53:36 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: If your long term goal really is DB2, then start now. Going through an interim step simply makes the eventual conversion far more expensive. If you can't afford to do it right the first time, then when will you be able to afford

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: I really don't think too many American companies are moving mainframe computers to foreign countries, unless the business presence in the foreign country demands a mainframe. I have to believe that most companies want their mainframe

Hipersocket FTP Performance

2007-02-27 Thread Dino
Does anyone have any ballpark numbers for actual throughput performance of FTP using Hipersockets Running either single or multiple FTPs from LPAR #1 to LPAR #2 we are only seeing around 25MB/sec in total. The DASD involved is all FICON connected DMX-3 which is easily capable of transferring

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-27 Thread R.S.
Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: I really don't think too many American companies are moving mainframe computers to foreign countries, unless the business presence in the foreign country demands a mainframe. I have to believe that most companies want their mainframe at home on American soil where it