Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
Peter, as far as I know the restart interrupt from the HMC with options abend-resume-repair are supposed to correspond to the spin(resume)-retry(repair)-term(abend) options of automatic exspin recovery. If you ever want to test this again, put your PHUNLOOP job into sysstc - improves the

Re: Outsmarting WLM

2007-10-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
You'd need to count the number of idle BPXASs and decide then if and how many to create. Idle ones are those which show up as BPXAS in a D A,BPXAS. Haven't thought about how to get that information in the keep-alive program, I admit. And Johns suggestion to use modify There goes the 'simple

Re: Outsmarting WLM

2007-10-25 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
There goes the 'simple fork() program'! :-) Well, the fork() program is still quite simple, isn't it :-) I'd be interested in the what and how of your solution, once it is in place. And also, how much it helped to improve the responsiveness of that workload. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Jim Mulder
as far as I know the restart interrupt from the HMC with options abend-resume-repair are supposed to correspond to the spin(resume)- retry(repair)-term(abend) options of automatic exspin recovery. No, there is no connection. Abend/Resume/Repair for the restart interrupt key was introduced

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
[snip]... (Peter was faster than I on this!) I beg your pardon, Barbara. I usually let ladies go first. Hope you're gonna have a good day, anyway ;-) -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Rob Scott
Jim, (I do have a bit more influence now). This a candidate for Under-Statement of the Year. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
No, there is no connection. lots of good info snipped My apologies if I confused anyone! I just *knew* Jim would jump in once I strayed (Actually, I wondered why he hadn't participated in this earlier:-) Actually, all of that (including excessive spin recovery) was a bit 'between my

EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Paul Schuster
1) When using the DEVSTAT option with EDTINFO CHKUNIT, the doc. seems to imply that you must define enough storage of 2-byte entries for the same amount of device numbers in your DEVLIST before calling EDTINFO. Correct? 2) These 2-byte entries correspond to each device # entry. What is meant by

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: field/col definition for 12-2-9 TXT card: col 1 12-2-9 / x'02' 2-4

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Rob Scott
(1) Yes (2) I take that to mean that there is no UCB for that unit address - ie that unit address has not been defined in HCD. Bit 1 is the indicator if the unit is associated with the unitname. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I don't understand is pre sorting a deck that will be used as input to the computer--couldn't the computer

JCL QUESTION

2007-10-25 Thread esmie moo
Is there a way I can code a parm (* * * * * * * * * * * * ) for the volsers for an output PS dsn (as available when defining a VSAM cluster) ? I have a problem with space abends - IEC030I B37-04. The dsn is SMS managed. I am using a primary of 2000,500 since it is a huge file. The job is

Re: JCL QUESTION

2007-10-25 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Try //anydd DD DSN=.., // VOL=(,,,nn) where nn is the number of volumes the dataset is allowed to reside on. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: JCL QUESTION

2007-10-25 Thread esmie moo
Thanks Peter. I will give it a try. Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try //anydd DD DSN=.., // VOL=(,,,nn) where nn is the number of volumes the dataset is allowed to reside on. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse

Re: JCL QUESTION

2007-10-25 Thread wtrovijo
Is there a way I can code a parm (* * * * * * * * * * * * ) for the volsers for an output PS dsn (as available when defining a VSAM cluster) ? I have a problem with space abends - IEC030I B37-04. The dsn is SMS managed. I am using a primary of 2000,500 since it is a huge file. The job is

Re: Dynamic ISPF panels?

2007-10-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Sorry Dave, Nothing there about how to do scrollable menus or dynamic areas. Scrollable menus take the work out of your hands for handling different number of rows in the display. Dynamic areas put the work of defining the actual format of the panel in your code. The IBM provided SISPPENU

Re: Healthcheck (IBMCSV,CSV_APF_EXISTS)

2007-10-25 Thread Peter Relson
The question is: *Can* CSV recognize that the data set is SMS managed when it does the IPL progxx-members? The answer is No. APF processing does not, and will not be changed to, do anything with the actual data set. And during IPL it really is not in a position to do so. The APF entry is merely a

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Johnny Luo
On 10/24/07, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what the manual says is the same as what you said. In a MP system, a disabled loop is observed as a spin loop by other processors. This is not exactly true: A disabled loop by itsself will not generate a problem.

APF FORMAT=DYNAMIC

2007-10-25 Thread Peter Relson
Is anyone still not using FORMAT=DYNAMIC for their APF list? It isn't the default so you'd have to have the proper statement in your PROGxx to get it. Maybe some day we'll change the default, though it's not a really big deal since if you start as STATIC you can always switch to DYNAMIC if you

Re: JCL QUESTION

2007-10-25 Thread van Arnhem, Gerrit
You can use an extended format dataset for it. You have to define an data class in which you add an value to the volume count parameter en specify DSN TYPE EXT. In the jcl you have to specify the data class and then your data set will be spreaded over the number of volumes you've set in the

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-10-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Try opening a requirement and providing a business case, then get your family, friends and neighbors to do the same. Otherwise IBM is not going to go off and pioneer this solution based on some mutterings on a listserv. If your employer is not a member of SHARE, contact IBM directly. They have

Re: JCL QUESTION

2007-10-25 Thread esmie moo
Peter, I tried out your suggestion and it worked. Thanks for your help. Thanks to all for responding. Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try //anydd DD DSN=.., // VOL=(,,,nn) where nn is the number of volumes the dataset is allowed to reside on. -- Peter

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:12:05 -0400, Walter Bushell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what was the sorter? Ah, the beauties of the radix sort. This beast put cards into 10 output slots, based on the digit in a specified column, thus enabling sorting with tab cards and no computers. Lots of labor,

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:25:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't understand is pre sorting a deck that will be used as input to the computer--couldn't the computer sort it faster than a person could? The machine sorted strictly sequentially, while the computer had bubble or shell sorts

Re: Outsmarting WLM

2007-10-25 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Outsmarting WLM You'd need to count the number of idle BPXASs and decide then if and how

Re: tso racf

2007-10-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:38:17 -0500 Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:38:03 -0400, Binyamin Dissen wrote: :What PCF did well was protect APF authorized CPs. :You could not circumvent PCF unless you had the ability to write into an APF :library, which if you can - you

S028 after ALESERV

2007-10-25 Thread Gary Weinhold
We are getting a sporadic S028 in a job that uses the ALET returned by the privileged ALESERV used to access a public dataspace (the privileged ALESERV is issued through a PC). The public dataspace is DSPSERV CREATEd by another address space and has been ALESERVed in that address space so it can

SDSF in a sysplex

2007-10-25 Thread McKown, John
I'm still looking at the break our single image into two images question. I am having problems understand what all I can do with SDSF in a sysplex (basic or parallel) environment. I know that I can set up the two systems to each have its own SDSF server address spaces. They can communicate via

Out of space uploading to a UNIX directory

2007-10-25 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
Be nice to novices. :) I tried FTP'ing a large file to directory /u/ on our z/OS system. This failed because there was not enough space. However, the DASD volume itself has plenty of free space. What needs to be done to allow more volume space to be allocated for directory /u/, a.k.a.,

System Assembler Exits (like IEFUSI)

2007-10-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just curious if anyone has looked at DTS Software's EASY-EXIT to handle many of the system exits like IEFUSI, IEFUTL, TSO LOGON/LOGFF, etc??? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: tso racf

2007-10-25 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
TSO runs from an APF Library itself. The TSO command CALL *(PROGRAM) can run an APF service directly as TSO is already an Authorized Product. Only a CALL statement from a program whose load member is not in an APF library is blocked from calling one that is in an APF library. In other wards,

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Paul Schuster
Let me further expand: I do a EDTINFO RTNDEVN,UNITNAME=,DEVNLIST=DEVNLIST to (for example) get the list of device numbers associated with UNIT=SYSALLDA. All of these device numbers will have a UCB associated with them, but many are 'dummy' UCB's that have no real volume associated with

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
What do you mean by radix sort? Also, all the sorters I've ever seen had 12 pockets, not 10. The person Howard quoted said the machine was the size of a wall. I've never seen a sorter I'd call that big, except a check sorter when I worked for a bank. I did lots of sorting the 8 years I was

ICKDSF - PARMS

2007-10-25 Thread willie bunter
Good Day, A problem was reported regarding read checks on a 3390. I ran an ANALYZE (using parms SCAN SPEED) and ALL DATA 'MACHINE READABLE' WITHOUT ERRORS. I executed an INSPECT and received a FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0. Could it be the parms I used were not

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:02:42 -0400, Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of shops, no disk. Even with a disk, the sort program was loaded from cards. I seem to remember the sort program being huge and the input being stuffed into the middle of the deck. Then you had to modify the receiving

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Santosh Kandi
Barbara/Peter, Thanks for the information. When I went to school(NIU) in 2000 we designed a Student Operating system with the dispatcher running off the TCB chain. I recently went to Diagnostics class in z/OS and there I learned about the WEB. I wonder if there is a Bible which explains

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread David Long
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:29:02 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish the person this had happened to would pipe up, but to set the record more precisely because of a bad date RACF (This is hear say) did something to the (RACF) database that essentially rendered the system not

Java Support question

2007-10-25 Thread Andy White
I am trying to find out from anyone out there running z/OS and supporting Java. We have multiple programming areas that are requesting we put up a very specific version of Java or SDK. Let me be specific we have installed a ddef SAJV15D which has a path of

Re: Out of space uploading to a UNIX directory

2007-10-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
1 unmount the /u filesystem 2 rename the dataset containing the unmounted filesystem (from the MVS side of the house) 3 allocate a new dataset for the filesystem, larger and/or with specifying secondary extents (from the MVS side) 4 copy (IEBGENER should work) the old filesystem dataset

Re: SDSF in a sysplex

2007-10-25 Thread Staller, Allan
Yes to all of the below. SDSF on LPAR1 will be able to display JOBS, sysout, CPU, etc. on LPAR2. IIRC SDSF uses the RMF data area for the DA display. The rest I believe is handled by JES2. snip On system1/connected to server1, can I do a 'DA' to see and browse the output of jobs running on

Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread John Dawes
Barry, The problem occurred overnight. Seems that user wanted to use the same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B. (Both partitions A B are independent of each other. They do not share dasd, catalogs etc.) This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs.

Re: ICKDSF - PARMS

2007-10-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
I might pull LOGREC for that device and see what is flagged in there as well. Lizette A problem was reported regarding read checks on a 3390. I ran an ANALYZE (using parms SCAN SPEED) and ALL DATA 'MACHINE READABLE' WITHOUT ERRORS. I executed an INSPECT and received a FUNCTION

Re: tso racf

2007-10-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:35:51 -0700 GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :TSO runs from an APF Library itself. True. :The TSO command CALL *(PROGRAM) can run an APF service directly as TSO :is already an Authorized Product. It will only be authorized if: 1. The program is defined as

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Field, Alan C.
Have you looked at the UCBLOOK service? See: MVS PGMMING: ASSEMBLER SERVICES REF I do a EDTINFO RTNDEVN,UNITNAME=,DEVNLIST=DEVNLIST to (for example) get the list of device numbers associated with UNIT=SYSALLDA. All of these device numbers will have a UCB associated with them, but many are

Re: ICKDSF - PARMS

2007-10-25 Thread Hal Merritt
What kind of hardware? For emulated 3390's (such as Shark), a 'read check' does not make much sense. Most all such activity occurs in the cache. Real I/O errors are transparently handled in the hardware. More reasonable might be a read past end of file, inappropriate DCB, a null file (VTOC entry

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Field, Alan C.
Sorry I meant UCBSCAN -Original Message- Have you looked at the UCBLOOK service? See: MVS PGMMING: ASSEMBLER SERVICES REF I do a EDTINFO RTNDEVN,UNITNAME=,DEVNLIST=DEVNLIST to (for example) get the list of device numbers associated with UNIT=SYSALLDA. All of these device

Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread Darth Keller
The problem occurred overnight. Seems that user wanted to use the same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B. (Both partitions A B are independent of each other. They do not share dasd, catalogs etc.) This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs. I

Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread John Kington
John, Barry, The problem occurred overnight. Seems that user wanted to use the same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B. (Both partitions A B are independent of each other. They do not share dasd, catalogs etc.) This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls,

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Rob Scott
Paul, Is there any reason why you are avoiding UCBSCAN and then a test for UCBONLI ? If so, then I suppose you could consider doing the UCBSCAN once (at init) and then use an ENF listener (codes 23/24/30) to update your table of units. However, this might seem a little extreme just to avoid

Re: Out of space uploading to a UNIX directory

2007-10-25 Thread Hal Merritt
Technically sounds good, except I don't think IEBGENR is the right tool for that job; I'd go with DFDSS. More, other users of the /u system might be a little annoyed :-) I'd vote for setting up a separate file system with a mount point in /u to receive the large file. Do keep in mind that I can

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:19 AM, David Long wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:29:02 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish the person this had happened to would pipe up, but to set the record more precisely because of a bad date RACF (This is hear say) did something to the (RACF) database

Re: S028 after ALESERV

2007-10-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:14:36 -0400 Gary Weinhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :We are getting a sporadic S028 in a job that uses the ALET returned by :the privileged ALESERV used to access a public dataspace (the privileged :ALESERV is issued through a PC). The public dataspace is DSPSERV :CREATEd

Re: Out of space uploading to a UNIX directory

2007-10-25 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
Thanks, Rex. Quick and hopefully last question: where do I enter the unmount and mount commands and where are they documented? On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:42:43 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 unmount the /u filesystem 2 rename the dataset containing the unmounted filesystem

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread John Kington
Paul, You could use IDCAMS DCOLLECT to extract the volume information (V record) for all online devices. It should have everything you would want or care to know. The record layout is documented in the Access Method Services for Catalogs in Appendix F (z/OS 1.7). Regards, John IBM Mainframe

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Hal Merritt
Personally, I'd view this as a management issue, not a technical issue. The root problem in my opinion was the need for an operator to issue the command in the first place. When you require human intervention, errors are to be expected and therefore tolerated. There are a number of such commands

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Paul Schuster
I use EDTINFO to obtain only the device #'s that belong to a particular unit (like SYSDA or SYSALLDA or DISK100 or whatever). UCBSCAN does not have that granularity--it gets all of the UCB's for DASD, which could contain many I am not interested in. Thank you. Paul On Thu, 25 Oct 2007

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Ngafei Huang
If RB3 is pointed to by TCBRBP, RB3 is newest and is the top RB.  TopRB get executed first when the TCB is given control.  The way it’s chained is RB3-RBLINK field points to RB2.  RB2-RBLINK points to RB1 and RB1-RBLINK points to the TCB.       I think to obtain a spin lock (unconditional

Re: Out of space uploading to a UNIX directory

2007-10-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hal had a couple good points that I failed to mention. (See, I said that if I said something wrong, it would be corrected! :-) ) Here's what he said so I can comment on them. snip Technically sounds good, except I don't think IEBGENR is the right tool for that job; I'd go with DFDSS. More,

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santosh Kandi Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About dispatching process SNIP Repressible or Exigent? Do you have VM or Flex-Es? Otherwise, it

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

2007-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/24/2007 at 02:45 PM, John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What documentation are you looking at? The dead tree manual tailored to the ServerPac order. I think Appendix A.7 in ServerPac: Using the Installation Dialog (the command reference part of the book) pretty

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
David Long wrote: In 1989 I was working in a shop where the operator accidentally entered the ipl date as yy/mm/98 instead of yy/mm/89. This was not noticed until all the jobs that read tapes started failing because the tape datasets had expired. I ended up writing a little program to make

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

2007-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/24/2007 at 03:14 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Which documentation? ServerPac manual or ISPF help screens? The former, specifically the tailored manual that comes with the order. The text uses the term forced, which implies more than just a default. --

Re: SDSF in a sysplex

2007-10-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Staller, Allan wrote: IIRC SDSF uses the RMF data area for the DA display. The rest I believe is handled by JES2. SDSF requires MQSeries (an extra cost option) for full multisystem support. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA

Re: ServerPac master catalog flag

2007-10-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/24/2007 at 03:26 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: When I posted my response I wrote: To get the list down to just the CPAC dsns... list by LVOLUME I used HLQ and there was only the one data set, so that didn't affect me. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

How can I read JESJCL from a batch program?

2007-10-25 Thread Bass, Walter W
I have written a program that reads in 80 byte cards and performs symbolic variable substitution at execution time. This program allows us to create control cards that are environment generic and has greatly reduced the number of redundant control cards than need to be maintained. It can even

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
The card sort program for the 360 Mod 20 was about 3/4 of an inch high, and you did put the sort control card if I remember right in the middle. We had a 4K machine with the MFCM and no disk or tape. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434

Re: Out of space uploading to a UNIX directory

2007-10-25 Thread Aaron Walker
I think someone covered this, but it would be best for you to have separate mount points for different directories/users under /u/ (i.e. /u/steve/ would have it's own dataset, /u/mike/ would have it's own dataset). That being said, another way that you can expand the size of your dataset,

Re: EDTINFO DEVSTAT ?

2007-10-25 Thread Rob Scott
Paul I would suggest that you compare the following and see which comes out best : (1) Issue EDTINFO and then run UCBSCAN for DASD and then update your device array as you loop thru the UCBs (2) Issue EDTINFO and then run the device array and issue UCBLOOK for required entries

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Ed - You sure have a thing about firing people. Its a good thing you're not employed now, as you can't fire anyone. Lets look at some of the costs of firing a bunch of consultants. Lets just say there were 5 consultants who did what you described. Say the average time they have been working

Re: SDSF in a sysplex

2007-10-25 Thread Staller, Allan
Thanks for the update. I was not aware of that requirement. snip Staller, Allan wrote: IIRC SDSF uses the RMF data area for the DA display. The rest I believe is handled by JES2. SDSF requires MQSeries (an extra cost option) for full multisystem support. -- Edward E Jaffe /snip

Re: S028 after ALESERV

2007-10-25 Thread David Day
Looks like a hardware error, doesn't it? 028 Explanation: The system could not complete a paging operation for one of the following reasons: a.. A permanent I/O error occurred during a page-in or swap-in operation. The data being paged in or swapped in is lost. b.. A page cannot be

Re: Java Support question

2007-10-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:41:51 -0400, Andy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find out from anyone out there running z/OS and supporting Java. We have multiple programming areas that are requesting we put up a very specific version of Java or SDK. Let me be specific we have installed a

Re: How can I read JESJCL from a batch program?

2007-10-25 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Bill, There is no problem in reading spool files, including JESJCL. If you have SDSF, you can write a small CLIST/REXX that will run in a batch step, call SDSF (Or what ever you use for spool browsing) to copy that file to a temporary file and then analyze it in your program (It can be the rexx

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 25, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: Ed - You sure have a thing about firing people. Its a good thing you're not employed now, as you can't fire anyone. Lets look at some of the costs of firing a bunch of consultants. Lets just say there were 5 consultants who did what you

Re: SDSF in a sysplex

2007-10-25 Thread George Fogg
On system1/connected to server1, can I do a 'DA' to see and browse the output of jobs running on system2? On system1/connected to server1, can I see the CPU utilization of jobs on system2 on the DA panel? Yes to both if you have SDSF set up correctly. On system 1 you enter SYSNAME system2

Re: How can I read JESJCL from a batch program?

2007-10-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Bass, Walter W wrote: I would like to enhance this program to avoid to necessity of passing the symbolic values through the parms. I am certain I can successfully get the information I need by parsing the JESJCL. What I have not been able to find out so far is where the JESJCL data is? Is

z/OS 1.8 Conditional Storage Obtain/Getmain Return Code

2007-10-25 Thread Webster, Chris
News to me and I could not find any trace in the archives. With z/OS v1.8 and later, r15 behavior has changed for a conditional storage obtain/getmain. For a successful request, the register may contain: 0010_ IBM has (poorly) documented this behavior at

How to change RMM dataset Catalog Status

2007-10-25 Thread John Mattson
I need to change a number of RMM Dataset entry Catalog Status fields in RMM from UNKNOWN to YES However, the CHANGEDATASET command does not seem to have any options for doing this. Does anyone know how to do this? And no, we are not at an RMM level to have CATSYNCH yet.

Re: SDSF in a sysplex

2007-10-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
George Fogg wrote: You only need MQ for SDSF if you wish to see system2 SDSF data, for example, in the PR, PUN, and RDR panels. Or if you'd like to see an active job's output grow line-by-line instead of block by block. The in-core buffer from jobs running on other systems is not

Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:45:49 +1000, John Dawes wrote: The problem occurred overnight. Seems that user wanted to use the same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B... This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs. I hope this was not an ordinary user specifying

Re: How can I read JESJCL from a batch program?

2007-10-25 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gerhard, Thanks for the nice explanation. Do you know if it is possible for a running job to read the values of PROC and/or SET JCL variables in effect for its (current) jobstep? It appears that those are all resolved/washed away in the system control blocks, but I wonder if they are lost after

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VARY too many devices offline snip Eric: What would you do with dishonest consultants? snip A clue was

Shared DASD and PAVs

2007-10-25 Thread George Dranes
I've got a few PAV question for the hardware gurus out there. I define all of my DASD to my production LPAR (these are monoplexes) as WLMPAV=YES, alias and base and I have WLM managing them. I have another LPAR that accesses some of these volumes (actually it is the one accessing these

Re: IBM System/3 3277-1

2007-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:48:22 -0500, Eric Bielefeld eric- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by radix sort? Did anybody anwer that question yet? I didn't see one. A radix sort is one that processes each possition of the key at a time. For a decimal key it simply separates the input

Richard Pape is on business trip in Malaysia

2007-10-25 Thread Richard J Pape
I will be out of the office starting 10/25/2007 and will not return until 10/29/2007. If urgent SMS me on 65- 97437055 . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Sharing DS8300 data from two z/OS sites

2007-10-25 Thread Leon Schwering
We are getting ready to share data on our DS8300 between our two z/OS sites. I would appreciate your collective thought on what I should be looking out for. Our sites are about 40 km apart. Thanks Leon Schwering Technical Analyst 407 ETR Concession Co. Ltd. 905-265-4070 x5422 647-273-7772

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I guess I saw the part about turning SMF recording off, but it didn't register. Yes, if they were stealing services or committing some act of fraud, maybe they should get fired. I used the quote below more because I was getting fed up with Ed Gould's constant talk of firing people. I know I

Re: z/OS 1.8 Conditional Storage Obtain/Getmain Return Code

2007-10-25 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/25/2007 03:20:31 PM: News to me and I could not find any trace in the archives. With z/OS v1.8 and later, r15 behavior has changed for a conditional storage obtain/getmain. For a successful request, the register may contain:

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was getting fed up with Ed Gould's constant talk of firing people. Ed has been retired for so long that any opinion he has is not worth listening to. From STAR TREK (Friday's Child): His words are unimportant, and we do not hear them! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Gregory, Gary G
Years ago I was able to save many an IPL when QMF users would run these huge outer joins of two databases. If I could hit the right TCB, I would cancel the task and 90% of the time it would save an IPL (which was my next option). Regards, Gary -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Another squirrel strike

2007-10-25 Thread Gregory, Gary G
One winter Saturday afternoon in 1985 I was working for UCCEL (down at the datacenter) and RIGHT in the middle of upgrading our VSE platform to VSE/SP 2.1. A squirrel had crossed our two independent power feeds and knocked out ALL of the power in the building. We still had some 3330's and had to

Re: z/OS 1.8 Conditional Storage Obtain/Getmain Return Code

2007-10-25 Thread Martin Packer
Jim Mulder said I don't think that VSM changed the r15 behavior in z/OS v1.8. I realise this may be a total red herring but, given RSM got a substantial rewrite in 1.8, is there ANY possibility this might be a side effect of that rewrite? I think it unlikely but sillier questions have

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Years ago I was able to save many an IPL when QMF users would run these huge outer joins of two databases. I'm still trying to figure out why these queries need to be cancelled. I have found, most of the time, they have to run for business needs. Usually, when you cancel them, the user just has

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Gregory, Gary G
We didn't have any governors in place (at the time) and the system would end up thrashing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: About

Re: About dispatching process

2007-10-25 Thread Gregory, Gary G
It was more or less product ignorance; once I implemented the governors then they didn't need to run these jobs during primetime under TMP. We had special batch classes that would accommodate their request(s). Our CICS community was a lot more important. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Sharing DS8300 data from two z/OS sites

2007-10-25 Thread R.S.
Leon Schwering wrote: We are getting ready to share data on our DS8300 between our two z/OS sites. I would appreciate your collective thought on what I should be looking out for. Our sites are about 40 km apart. It is feasible. Some delays can be observed due to the distance (40km). IMHO If

Re: How can I read JESJCL from a batch program?

2007-10-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
Bass, Walter W wrote: I have written a program that reads in 80 byte cards and performs symbolic variable substitution at execution time. This program allows us to create control cards that are environment generic and has greatly reduced the number of redundant control cards than need to be

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
What would you do with dishonest consultants? I'd be taking one really HARD LOOK at the selection process! Let's treat the whole problem, not just the most obvious symptom!

Re: z/OS 1.8 Conditional Storage Obtain/Getmain Return Code

2007-10-25 Thread Webster, Chris
The behavior does differ. The change is that r15 now contains something in bits 0-31. This has been verified by clearing r15 prior to the getmain and getting the same result. While I understand the doc change now indicates this can happen, it is not in an obvious location. I experienced the

Re: VARY too many devices offline

2007-10-25 Thread Campbell Jay
A rogue oprerative may sneak in... I think they have a few times... But we will definitely find that person. And... As an added bonus... Whatever they thought they may have destroyed... It's all recoverable. SUPER DISCLAIMER - This is my own perception Not to be affiliated in any way with my

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