Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:16:58 -0500, David Eisenberg wrote: I have a mainframe assembler application which is invoking Unix system services to get the names of all of the files in an NFS-mounted folder. The application dynamically allocates and logically concatenates these files into one giant

Re: Dynamic PER Traps

2008-04-09 Thread Edward Jaffe
Chase, John wrote: How quickly does the first of a pair of SLIP IF traps arm the second one? AFAIK, it happens synchronously with respect to the first one. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL

CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-09 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 14:02 -0500, McKown, John wrote: No coupling facility, so basic sysplex. XCF signalling via a ESCON CTC. That's all I have. The CF was nixed due to cost. Sigh. That CF is 1/4 of a z10 chip, already delivered to you and sitting idle. It could have been positioned and

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-09 Thread Scott Rowe
John, did you even consider running an ICF on your CPs? I don't know if you have any excess capacity, but it is an option. They don't advise using shared CPs for ICFs in a true data sharing environment, but if all you are using it for is GRS* it can work, and might allow you to convert all

Re: z/OS 1.4-1.7 gotchas

2008-04-09 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:11:12 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I may be drafted to do a 1.4 to 1.7 migration. I'm concerned both about any gotchas in the migration itself and about anything that might impede a later migration to a supported[1] release. There are two LPAR's in a sysplex and a

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
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Re: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!] On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 14:02 -0500, McKown, John

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! A[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What is all the cr*p after !?!. I use a BlackBerry, and this doesn't show up with mine. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: z/OS 1.4-1.7 gotchas

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
But I seem to recall a firmware refresh fixing this - Config OSA off/on. I don't recall needing a POR to change this parameter. POR shouldn't be required, at all. Like the old IRMA cards, the microcode is loaded everytime the card is refreshed. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: OA22578 NEW FUNCTION (GRS) migrate GRSRNL=EXCLUDE environment to full RNLs without requiring a sysplex-wide outage

2008-04-09 Thread Bob Shannon
This was discussed at a vendor disclosure. Now that it's public knowledge, I'm just curious about who will actually use it. Before responding, be sure to read all of the caveats. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:54:53 -0500, McKown, John wrote: I think that is the best idea. Hopefully it won't be too difficult. I can think of some other methods, but they are very UNIXy and weird. Such as creating a named pipe, fork()'ing then exec()'ing /bin/cat in the child to write to the pipe

Re: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
CFL not Canadian Football League It's not called a CFL, either. It's called an ICF (Internal Coupling Facility) - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: z/OS 1.4-1.7 gotchas

2008-04-09 Thread Jack Kelly
I just did this last year and as others have said the JES changes were a biggie, as well as going to goal mode with WLM. The other issue was the console rewrite and some of our RACF rules and the subsystems. The ever increasing size of the ROOT keeps amazing me. In general, it's relatively

Onboard Timer

2008-04-09 Thread Hal Merritt
Once upon a time, there was talk of how the sysplex timer was to be replaced by some timer application that ran on the HMC. The requirements were a certain level of microcode on a z/9 box and z/os 1.7. I think we are there, and would like to look at the feature. Anyone done this? Anyone

Re: z/OS 1.4-1.7 gotchas

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
going to goal mode with WLM. I must be misunderstanding your context. COMPAT Mode hasn't been supported since either 1.2 or 1.3. We had to convert going from 2.10 to 1.4. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Onboard Timer

2008-04-09 Thread Field, Alan C.
Are you referring to Server Time Protocol? There are two red books discussing it. You also need a $$$ microcode feature turned on. Alan Subject: Onboard Timer Once upon a time, there was talk of how the sysplex timer was to be replaced by some timer application that ran on the HMC. The

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Traylor, Terry
The dataclass Dynamic Volume Count (DVC) is (DSN DD + DVC amount) for each dataset allocated. If the DVC is 20, the that would equate to 21 DDs in TIOT times however many datasets allocated. Terry Traylor -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Traylor, Terry Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations The dataclass Dynamic Volume Count (DVC)

Re: Web Interfaces (was: Broken LISTSERV)

2008-04-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/09/2008 at 11:46 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Right. Even as the web interface isn't IBMLink. I'm not sure in that case; they may have done substantial rewriting. FWIW, I prefer the 3270 version. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: z/OS-MVS Control Block Layout - Offsets

2008-04-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/08/2008 at 09:00 AM, Stan Weyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does anyone have a text, PDF or whatever file that shows the MVS control block layout, offset, fields, relation to other control blocks, etc that is somewhat current? There was a pointer diagram in

Re: z/OS-MVS Control Block Layout - Offsets

2008-04-09 Thread Michael Stack
At 05:01 PM 4/9/2008 -0300, you wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/08/2008 at 09:00 AM, Stan Weyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does anyone have a text, PDF or whatever file that shows the MVS control block layout, offset, fields, relation to other control blocks, etc that is somewhat

Re: z/OS-MVS Control Block Layout - Offsets

2008-04-09 Thread Steve Comstock
Michael Stack wrote: At 05:01 PM 4/9/2008 -0300, you wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/08/2008 at 09:00 AM, Stan Weyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does anyone have a text, PDF or whatever file that shows the MVS control block layout, offset, fields, relation to other control blocks, etc

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:15:26 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Traylor, Terry Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:11 PM The dataclass Dynamic Volume Count (DVC) is (DSN DD + DVC amount) for each dataset allocated. If the DVC is 20,

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/09/2008 02:16:58 PM: I have a mainframe assembler application which is invoking Unix system services to get the names of all of the files in an NFS-mounted folder. The application dynamically allocates and logically

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:52:47 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But this provokes an interesting question: If (as I believe) HFS data sets are dynamically allocated in the OMVS address space (that's what's cited when I try to delete one), isn't OMVS at extreme hazard of impacting DVC

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:13:19 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: Is it necessary to concatenate all of the files? Could you restructure the program so that it allocates, opens, reads, closes, and unallocates each file sequentially? If the purpose is simply to read and process all of the records in all of

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How would the performance of a scheme that allocates, opens, reads, closes, and unallocates each file sequentially (or concatenated, which still does most of the same work) compare with allocating a single POSIX pipe and using BPX1* system calls to copy the various NFS files into it? My gut

Re: Onboard Timer

2008-04-09 Thread Glenn Miller
Hi Hal, As Alan indicated, its the feature is called: Server Time Protocol ( STP ). There are two IBM Redbooks, one titled: Server Time Protocol Implementation Guide ( SG24-7281 ) and the other titled: Server Time Protocol Planning Guide ( SG24-7280 ). Both of these books have been recently (

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:13:19 -0400, Jim

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