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2008-12-06 Thread Howard Turetzky
I am out of the office until 12/11/2008. Teaching class at customer site. Checking Notes nightly. If urgent, try 303 550-8123. Note: This is an automated response to your message IBM-MAIN Digest - 4 Dec 2008 to 5 Dec 2008 (#2008-340) sent on 12/5/08 22:10:36. This is the only notification

Re: Redefining the link list

2008-12-06 Thread Peter Relson
Yup. I just ran a test and it worked just as you predicted. The no-longer-defined LNKLST set no longer appears in the list. UNDEFINE likely frees the storage occupied by the control blocks as well... Exactly. UNDEFINE'ing a LNKLST set results in clean-up. Otherwise, LNKLST sets remain around and

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:17:30 -0600, John McKown wrote: Well, it looks like the company that I work for is really going to try to get off of the z. As I understand it, they have reputable people telling them that an iSeries can do the work for about 1/2 the cost. The z software cost is simply

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Eric Bielefeld
John, I'm sorry to hear about that. As I've posted on this list before, I went through the same thing from 2004 to 2006. PH Mining got rid of their MP3000, and replaced it with RS6000's. Those are i series, right? Everything runs on SAP in a different state. They seem to be happy with it.

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Edward Jaffe
Eric Bielefeld wrote: I'm sorry to hear about that. As I've posted on this list before, I went through the same thing from 2004 to 2006. PH Mining got rid of their MP3000, and replaced it with RS6000's. Those are i series, right? No. That's System p. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software

Z10 using zos 1.7

2008-12-06 Thread Eric Mendelson
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Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
RS6000's. Those are i series, right? No. That's System p. I believe iSeries were AS/400's. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SV: SV: Can you read CA-Librarian Files without Librarian?

2008-12-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
You'd think so, wouldn't you? However, we are converting from one Report Archiving and Distribution system (vendor unnamed due to fear) to another. We were going to directly read the files containing the reports. We were told if we developed such a program we would be sued by the vendor.

Re: Got burned by the FORCE COMMAND ?

2008-12-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
SVC 12 loop used to be the easiest way to crash a system SQA exhaustion? GO ATTACH EP=GO worked pretty well too, back in the day. The old RABBIT proc did pretty well at plugging up JES2, even though it didn't crash the system directly. -- Rick -- Remember that if you're not the lead

Re: zIIP queue vs CP dispatch when zIIP is fully utilized

2008-12-06 Thread Mursel Tasgin
Hi, Thanks for the replies. Our main concern is whether we will face a performance degradation for our current zIIP-eligible workload (that are currently running on multiple CPs) when we make 1 single zIIP processor available for LPAR. Here the main question is; if zIIP processor is fully

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
I know of a shop planning to dump AS/400's for Micro$oft and .net -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: another one biting the dust?

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Mark Post
On 12/6/2008 at 10:01 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- If it's a matter of software cost, how does Linux on z compare? Of course, the OS is cheaper, but do vendors of applications and support for the OS still see it as a z and charge z-like prices? I can't speak for all

Re: zIIP queue vs CP dispatch when zIIP is fully utilized

2008-12-06 Thread Kevin Mckenzie
As someone else said, it depends. By default, if you have a zIIP configured and online, non-zIIP processors will do zIIP work if the zIIP processor asks for help, which it will do when it thinks it is necessary (which happens before it is 100% utilized). Work will then be processed by normal

Re: Z10 using zos 1.7

2008-12-06 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Eric, I read recently on an IBM site about a subscription offering from IBM where you pay them and every month they send you any new fixes developed for the z10. They said to check with you marketing rep to find out the cost. I don't remember what this was called though. We are in the

Re: IBM DFRMM Reporting

2008-12-06 Thread Scott Barry
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:00:15 -0600, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most recent SHARE presentation is in the proceedings here http://ew.share.org/proceedingmod/abstract.cfm?abstract_id=18210 3054 - DFSMS Basics: Storage Reporting (San Jose Summer 2008) Mike Wood RMM Development

Re: z10 power problem notification

2008-12-06 Thread Jim Mulder
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:52:47 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 12/04/2008 07:15:08 PM: We recently had a power problem on our z10 Am I asking too much? Yes, because MVS does not have the information you desire. We don't

First z10 BC on West Coast

2008-12-06 Thread Edward Jaffe
We just finished installing a shiny new green-stripe z10 BC at our LA headquarters. Things went very smoothly. It's a slick new machine, that runs fast, with a cool new HMC user interface to which I'm quickly adapting. When I arrived on-site at around 11:30 AM, I couldn't understand why

Re: zIIP queue vs CP dispatch when zIIP is fully utilized

2008-12-06 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
Depends on how you define performance degradation. Think I indicated this already. There is overhead to run work on zIIPs. The CPUtime for transactions/work will go up. But it is possible that your throughput (number of transaction processed) can increase. Especially if you have the right work

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Edward Jaffe wrote: Eric Bielefeld wrote: I'm sorry to hear about that. As I've posted on this list before, I went through the same thing from 2004 to 2006. PH Mining got rid of their MP3000, and replaced it with RS6000's. Those are i series, right? No. That's

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Gibney, Dave wrote: I know of a shop planning to dump AS/400's for Micro$oft and .net I would short their stock, depending on their size. But I'll admit a, perhaps unreasonable, aversion to anything from M$. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread P S
No. iSeries, pSeries, xSeries, zSeries begat System i, System p, System x, System z. Now that they've converged the i and p hardware, IBM is playing games with i -- it's now just i, no System or Series (stupid -- unsearchable!). There was no tSeries; there are ThinkPads in various lines,

Re: Z10 using zos 1.7

2008-12-06 Thread גדי בן אבי
According to the z10 BC announcement you have to install something called the IBM Lifecycle Extension for z/OS V1.7 (5637-A01) in order to run z/OS 1.7 in a z10 BC. This is a charged feature. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Edit Macro Problem

2008-12-06 Thread Philip Hitti
WE are getting following message when edit some datasets. Pls help . Regards Initial edit macro set Macro does not exist Command === RE IKJ56500I COMMAND RE NOT FOUND -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Edit Macro Problem

2008-12-06 Thread Itschak Mugzach
The message says that it could not find the RE macro in sysproc concatenation. Are you sure that you don't mean RES? Itschak On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Philip Hitti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: WE are getting following message when edit some datasets. Pls help . Regards Initial edit macro

Re: Edit Macro Problem

2008-12-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
There's a RE accidently left in the Initial Edit Field . Watch carefully when you start the edit. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 10:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 01:33:47 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually X is the blade server. T was the think-pad (now Lenovo) No X series are Intel server not necessarily blades I had to buy X3650 and x3950 etc ... (we did not want blades anymore) they are multi processor boxes