Re: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms

2009-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:06:39 -0500, Angel-Luis Dominguez wrote: Have a look at FILE 501 from CBT. It is a very simple and effective way to sync every machine, even PC's obtaining directly time from mainframe. There's a struggle here that's as much political as technical. If your IT czar is a

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Brian Westerman
Can you dump the current header? You can then either compare it to a new one that you generate, or send me a copy and I can see if I can see what needs to be changed. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
I would like to draw your attention to the z/OS 1.11 announcement letter, now available here: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS209-242/ENUS209-242.PDF There's a lot to like, including the new z/OS Management Facility under discussion in another thread. However, I am most excited

Re: Can CICS region share more than one processor

2009-08-20 Thread Terry Draper
Don,    Prior to L8 TCBs, DB2 SQL requests executed on threads. Each thread was a seperate TCB. So the QR TCB and each thread TCB could execute in parallel.    Terry Draper zSeries Performance Consultant w...@btopenworld.com mobile:  +966 556730876 --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Don Deese

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Sorry to disagree but it is step initiation / allocation that has been changed not IEFBR14. -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: SMTP delivery delay

2009-08-20 Thread Patrick Loftus
I think the improvements Ulrich was talking about must be the new CSSMTP server in z/OS v1r11. More information in the z/OS v1r11 Comms Server IP Config Guide here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B390/2.18.1?DT=20090330131407#HDRCSSMTP

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Peter Hunkeler writes: Sorry to disagree but it is step initiation / allocation that has been changed not IEFBR14. It was my attempt at humor, that's all. But as a follow-up, if anyone has an idea how to do nothing even better, please feel free to post.

Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS

2009-08-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
z/OS Management Facility is showing up in IBM's pricing system now. Both 5655-S38 (license) and 5655-S39 (subscription and support) are listed at zero dollars. (I just checked.) Operators are standing by (along with Shopz). Here are some more z/OS freebies available from IBM:

Re: z/OS 1.11 Manuals and New Hot Topics

2009-08-20 Thread Fabio Massimo Ottaviani
Dave look here: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp Regards Fabio At 18.50 19/08/2009, you wrote: They are not yet available via the Softcopy Librarian internet source. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In z/OS V1.11, when IEFBR14 is used with DD statements to delete a data set that has been migrated by DFSMShsm, Allocation is now designed to pass the delete request to DFSMShsm under most circumstances so the data set can be deleted without first recalling it. This has been discussed here,

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Relson
The zAAP on zIIP support should not be construed to imply that zAAPs are going away. It was intended primarily for customers with small enough amounts of zAAP and zIIP offload that it might not make sense to purchase both a zAAP and a zIIP. The support is not limited, however, only to that small

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-20 Thread John P Kalinich
Edward Jaffe of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 08/17/2009 01:25:45 PM: John P Kalinich wrote: How about some Virtual SHARE Coverage reports from the fortunate that get to attend SHARE? The now defunct DoDIE SHARE project used to collect and publish session

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Lutz Hamann
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:35:45 -0400, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: The zAAP on zIIP support should not be construed to imply that zAAPs are going away. It was intended primarily for customers with small enough amounts of zAAP and zIIP offload that it might not make sense to purchase both a

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Kline
Have a spool offload dataset offload does not recognize format correctly... error on header when using offload,type=receive.. I would create a new small offload (just a single output would suffice) on disk to generate a valid header. Then, examine the two files closely to see differences. Also

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:52:10 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: In z/OS V1.11, when IEFBR14 is used with DD statements to delete a data set that has been migrated by DFSMShsm, Allocation is now designed to pass the delete request to DFSMShsm under most circumstances so the data set can be deleted

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
If it were up to me, I would have added a parm to the ALLOC member of PARMLIB that would indicate whether or not if a dataset was migrated it should be recalled for DELETE process only. This would be an LPAR wide application, but it would be easier to support I think. Something like ALLOCXX

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Patrick Loftus
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:35:45 -0400, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: It was intended primarily for customers with small enough amounts of zAAP and zIIP offload that it might not make sense to purchase both a zAAP and a zIIP. What about the opposite? Any plans to allow zIIP on zAAP?

Re: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms

2009-08-20 Thread Noshir Dhondy
It is not possible to have the Sysplex Timer (9037) attach to non-S/390 or zSeries servers. However, there is a way that customers can get the same time across both zSeries and non-zSeries servers in their data center. The 9037 can attach to an External Time Source (ETS), the options are described

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Wells
Here is screen print of 1st record below... From what I have been reading it--offload--reads first record (80) bytes of the 4042blocked record... .)=...AGFEI ..*.x..Q.. (...$

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: spool offload Can you dump the current header? You can then either compare it to a

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: It was my attempt at humor, that's all. Good! ;-D But as a follow-up, if anyone has an idea how to do nothing even better, please feel free to post. Enhance IEFBR14 to follow standard linkage conventions as stated in z/OS Principle of Operations. ;-D It is a crying

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zAAP on zIIP The zAAP on zIIP support should not be construed to imply that zAAPs are

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
John, I don't think you understand zIIPs and zAAPs. There is NO hardware difference between zIIPs, zAAPs, GPs or any other engine (IFL, ICF, SAP - have I left out any?). The difference is the work marked for dispatch on them. Jim Horne Systems Programmer Large Systems Engineering

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
However, by doing this, IBM has implicitly revealed that there cannot be much, if any, difference between an zAAP and a zIIP, hardware-wise. IBM has never hidden this fact. It has been discussed numerous times on this list. A PU is a PU. Period. How else could they dynamically configure PUs for

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Horne, Jim - James S Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zAAP on zIIP John, I don't think you understand zIIPs and zAAPs. There is NO

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Wells
tried the command ... file came down but one record only header 80bytes and followed by hex'40'...? ftp said -- completed--with all records I expected?? From: McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 08/20/2009 08:06 AM Subject: Re: spool offload Sent by: IBM

Re: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms

2009-08-20 Thread Scott Rowe
z/OS has had it's own time server for quite some time now, no need to use the CBT version. Angel-Luis Dominguez angel_luis_dominguez_mar...@yahoo.es 8/20/2009 1:06 AM Have a look at FILE 501 from CBT. It is a very simple and effective way to sync every machine, even PC's obtaining directly

Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS

2009-08-20 Thread John Eells
Correction! The Service and Support is also priced at zero dollars. John Eells wrote: Knutson, Sam wrote: I have had some side conversations with folks outside and inside IBM because the announcement lists this as chargeable but it was understood that entitlement was to be included with z/OS.

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread R.S.
Bob Shannon pisze: However, by doing this, IBM has implicitly revealed that there cannot be much, if any, difference between an zAAP and a zIIP, hardware-wise. IBM has never hidden this fact. It has been discussed numerous times on this list. A PU is a PU. Period. How else could they

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Wells
did another offload -- below is it's header ..0,A06AGF ã.*.Ø..Q.. Ö...ã...(...$ 02F60022CFFCCC4440110053801D1040001E1011001400140015 2C0B193F106176006001061002C806784100067C96840686068D068B From:

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Colleen and the others who responded to my request, Just as a wrap-up on this issue, it appears as though I needed to shut off the auto backup on these datasets before they would go away. I turned off the auto backup and my test datasets were deleted when they expired. I ran a couple more tests

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
IBM always hide it on every presentation addressed to non-technical people (read: mamangement).It causes a lot of effort for techies to clarify the things our managers. I'm not sure the technical implementation of specialty engines is something that IBM should discuss with management. Did

Re: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Wells
header on good one below... ..0,A06AGF ã.*.Ø..Q.. Ö...ã...(...$ 02F60022CFFCCC4440110053801D1040001E1011001400140015 2C0B193F106176006001061002C806784100067C96840686068D068B bad one...

3490 tape drives

2009-08-20 Thread Scott Rowe
We have a 3490-A20 controller (ESCON) and 1 3490-B40 (IBM Certified for maintenance) box that we no longer have need of, we were wondering if anyone out there has need of them. We are researching what the market value may be, and I thought if someone needs them we might be able save both sides

Re: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms

2009-08-20 Thread Martinez Escudero, Francisco Javier
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Re: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms

2009-08-20 Thread Scott Rowe
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Re: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms

2009-08-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/20/2009 9:03:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, franciscojavier.marti...@t-systems.es writes: I want to unsuscribe for IBM Mainframe Discussion list. Read the bottom three lines of any post. -- For

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Kelman, Tom
And it appears that Neon Enterprise Software is exploiting that similarity by somehow marking work, other than the standard IBM work, to be dispatched to a zIIP or a zAAP via their new zPrime product. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632

START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-20 Thread David Andrews
A member in SYS1.PROCLIB is started via operator command. When I insert a JOB statement as the first record, the system executes the member as a job (which allows me to use instream data, for example). This works well for plain old console START commands, but when I internally issue a START

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread John Eells
John Eells wrote: Lizette Koehler wrote: If it were up to me, I would have added a parm to the ALLOC member of PARMLIB that would indicate whether or not if a dataset was migrated it should be recalled for DELETE process only. This would be an LPAR wide application, but it would be easier to

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Howard Brazee
On 20 Aug 2009 06:08:10 -0700, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) wrote: It is a crying shame that IEFBR14 does not follow the linkage conventions. It is the ONLY PRODUCTION module not following the proper linkage, ie not using that SAVE and RETURN macros. What about using

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:06:54 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Enhance IEFBR14 to follow standard linkage conventions as stated in z/OS Principle of Operations. ;-D The linkage conventions are not in the POO. They are in the Assembler Services Guide, Chapter 2. -- Tom Marchant

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
Will the new limit for JCL PARM= will be 110 characters? :-) On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: I would like to draw your attention to the z/OS 1.11 announcement letter, now available here:

Re: Can CICS region share more than one processor

2009-08-20 Thread Don Deese
Hi Mohammad, I hope that the following (snipped from the CICS DB2 Guide) will help: snip The CICS DB2 attachment facility includes a CICS DB2 task-related user exit, DFHD2EX1, that is invoked when an application program makes an SQL request. It manages the process of acquiring a thread

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:26:45 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Thanks. I was under the impression that the microcode load in a zAAP and a zIIP was different from the microcode load in a CP. I guess that I was thinking that because there definately is a difference (minor) in the microcode load in an

IBM Journals

2009-08-20 Thread Tom Marchant
I see today that individual articles from the IBM journals now seem to be available for $1.99 plus sales tax. That's a lot better than the $995 per year subscription. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-20 Thread John Kelly
snip I turned off the auto backup and my test datasets were deleted when they expired. unsnip Rex, now you have me really mystified. I thought that the thread indicated that you had HSM backup the DSNs (DCLASS, DSORG, etc) but they wouldn't delete. Now it appears that you changed the

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tom Marchant wrote: The linkage conventions are not in the POO. They are in the Assembler Services Guide, Chapter 2. Thanks. I forgot to mention this book. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: IBM Journals

2009-08-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/20/2009 10:39:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes: available for $1.99 plus sales tax. That's a lot better than the $995 per year subscription. Where's the bean counters when you need them? Cost about $6.70 to process an invoice. So

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
The linkage conventions are not in the POO. They are in the Assembler Services Guide, Chapter 2. Thanks. I forgot to mention this book. A convention is not an architecture. Conventional linkage is not used for SVCs. PCs use the linkage stack. Some C programs use XPLINK. Who knows (or cares)

Fw: spool offload

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Wells
See anything to cause error..?? see below on error I get.. $S OFFLOAD1,TYPE=RECEIVE $HASP000 OK IEF196I IEF237I 57B5 ALLOCATED TO SYS00014 $HASP121 OFF1.SR ERROR RECEIVING NETWORK JOB HEADER, RC=0 $HASP096 DISASTROUS ERROR AT SYMBOL SBFRCBER IN CSECT HASPSTAM $HASP088 JES2 ABEND ANALYSIS

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Jack, Unfortunately timing was my enemy here. For the purpose of the test, I set the mgmt class to 5 days. Initially I had created the datasets (simple 3.4 allocate) without opening them. 5 days came and went, and the datasets didn't go away. Being that I had never opened the datasets, HSM

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Bill Fairchild
It can't bypass calling the module unless it performs all the functions that IEFBR14 performs, meaning that the initiator must at least set its return code variable to zero before not calling the module that does nothing. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street *

Re: The Death of Servers and Software

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip ComputerWorld magazine has been a joke for many years now. It used to be good back in the 80's/90's but MicroSoft's pocketbook is a big one. I haven't bothered to read it for quite a long time now.

Re: The Death of Servers and Software

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- The problem is in tightly defining information functions such as server. And this is particularly a problem for us who are categorized as being Mainframe people. Looking for a particular technology for server functions (or

Re: HSM dumps elapsed time change

2009-08-20 Thread John Kelly
I posed a question a couple of months about HSM dump time elongating. Our DASD geometry changed, so the number of devices changed. I followed what HSM was actually doing so I thought that I would pass it along in case anyone else would be interested. i hope that this isn't to convoluted, it

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip That is very true. One side issue is that every once in a while there is a program that *NOBODY* knows about and you have done your home work researching where it might be called from. You cannot find any obvious answer so

Re: Replicate, Imbed KeyRange

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip From the 1.11 announcement: In Software Announcement 204-180, dated August 10, 2004, IBM announced its intent to withdraw support for VSAM IMBED, REPLICATE, and KEYRANGE attributes in a future release. Based on customer

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Wolpert
Does it also tell you what program invoked the module? Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August

Re: Is there a MIPS to Ghs conversion table or vise vera; we would like to move several Linix servers to an IFL

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip Google is not very helpful. 1. What is the Mps to Ghz conversion for our mainframe - i.e. we have a 2094-S08 505 processor for mainframe applications that has 1,721 MIPS. 2. How many virtual Linux servers would a zO8 IFL support

Re: how-to Sysplex?

2009-08-20 Thread Arthur Gutowski
Sysplex may have been conceived as a way for applications and systems to grow beyond a box, but like it or not, it has evolved into a means to merge independent systems together. Understanding the technical limitations (we're closer to that now), each shop can decide how far to exploit it.

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zAAP on zIIP However, by doing this, IBM has implicitly revealed that there cannot be

Re: how-to Sysplex?

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Wolpert
Sorry for the ignorance. What is an ELA (enterprise licensing agreement?)? Why would this cause you to dismantle your sysplex? Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com

Re: IBM Journals

2009-08-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
Invoice? It looks like you can buy one online with some of that E-commerce stuff. BTW: Google's indexing bot can still read them for free :-) On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/20/2009 10:39:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip Does it also tell you what program invoked the module? unsnip-- Unfortunately, it does not tell you the identify of the invoker. Given the nature and the mechanics involved, I

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- I would like to draw your attention to the z/OS 1.11 announcement letter, now available here: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS209-242/ENUS209-242.PDF There's a lot to like, including the new z/OS Management

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Wolpert
Thanks. I still see this as a useful tool. Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009

Re: Replicate, Imbed KeyRange

2009-08-20 Thread Staller, Allan
The only thing that has changed is that IBM has decided not to remove KEYRANGE. IMBED and REPLICATE are still scheduled for removal (eventually). See: http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/5cb5ed706d254a818625

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
But the millicode in an IFL is different from that in a CP is different from that in an ICF (?) is different from that in a zAAP(?) is different from that in a zIIP (?). I was once told that one cannot IPL off an ICF (or maybe it was an IFL) because NIP issues an instruction that is not

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was once told that one cannot IPL off an ICF (or maybe it was an IFL) because NIP issues an instruction that is not supported on the specialty engine. If that's true, then NIP is a special case. ICFs load CFCC -- is that an IPL/NIP implementation? IFLs allow the initialisation of z/VM --

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bob Shannon wrote: I was once told that one cannot IPL off an ICF (or maybe it was an IFL) because NIP issues an instruction that is not supported on the specialty engine. If that's true, then NIP is a special case. As I understand it, ONE useless IPL-time instruction program checks on

Re: Replicate, Imbed KeyRange

2009-08-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:49:52 -0500, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: The only thing that has changed is that IBM has decided not to remove KEYRANGE. IMBED and REPLICATE are still scheduled for removal (eventually). See:

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zAAP on zIIP But the millicode in an IFL is different from that in a CP is different from

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:57:43 -0500, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: snip But there must be some way for the dispatcher to somehow know that CPU#n is a zIIP or a zAAP as opposed to a general CP. Otherwise how would the dispatcher know not to dispatch general work onto that CPU? I

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: But there must be some way for the dispatcher to somehow know that CPU#n is a zIIP or a zAAP as opposed to a general CP. Otherwise how would the dispatcher know not to dispatch general work onto that CPU? I would guess that there is something in the PCCA(?) that says this

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Gibney, Dave
The little thing is in LPA fer $#*()'sake, How much effort is there to load it. How often is it not in an instruction cache line already anyway ? Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread P S
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Edward Jaffeedja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: As I understand it, ONE useless IPL-time instruction program checks on an IFL (and possibly other specialty engines). This conveniently prevents z/OS from IPLing on a specialty engine. I know one ISV that wanted

Re: z/OS 1.11 Manuals and New Hot Topics

2009-08-20 Thread Gibney, Dave
Doesn't work, get a Java something Unknown host error Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Fabio Massimo Ottaviani Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009

Re: Replicate, Imbed KeyRange

2009-08-20 Thread John Eells
Staller, Allan wrote: The only thing that has changed is that IBM has decided not to remove KEYRANGE. IMBED and REPLICATE are still scheduled for removal (eventually). See: http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/5cb5ed706d254a818625

Share Scheduler?

2009-08-20 Thread Roland Schiradin
AFAIR in the past there was a share scheduler software available. Unfortunally I can't find it on the share website. Anybody know of this? Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: z/OS 1.11 Manuals and New Hot Topics

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Wolpert
Works for me. Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: Re: z/OS 1.11

Re: Share Scheduler?

2009-08-20 Thread Mark Post
On 8/20/2009 at 4:09 PM, Roland Schiradin rol...@schiradin.de wrote: AFAIR in the past there was a share scheduler software available. Unfortunally I can't find it on the share website. Try http://www.share.org/Portals/0/Denver/Education/Agenda.exe Mark Post

Re: Share Scheduler?

2009-08-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
You need to logon to the SHARE.ORG website. Then go to http://tinyurl.com/lwdbbr link This s where the agenda scheduler is located. Lizette AFAIR in the past there was a share scheduler software available. Unfortunally I can't find it on the share website. Anybody know of this?

Re: Share Scheduler?

2009-08-20 Thread John Eells
Roland Schiradin wrote: AFAIR in the past there was a share scheduler software available. Unfortunally I can't find it on the share website. Anybody know of this? snip It led me a merry chase a few days ago, but I finally found it here:

Re: z/OS 1.11 Manuals and New Hot Topics

2009-08-20 Thread Gibney, Dave
Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University See my original complaint below. Fabio's link works fine as a web page. It does not for me as a source url for Softcopy Librarian 4.2j It's typically awhile after the manuals make the Web before the source for Softcopy

Re: Share Scheduler?

2009-08-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:09:19 -0500, Roland Schiradin rol...@schiradin.de wrote: AFAIR in the past there was a share scheduler software available. Unfortunally I can't find it on the share website. Anybody know of this? I had trouble finding it also. Don't know why it is not more visible.

Re: Share Scheduler?

2009-08-20 Thread Roland Schiradin
Got it tnx to all. Wonder why it was so hidden for (only?) me Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:24:40 -0400, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: John Eells wrote: Lizette Koehler wrote: If it were up to me, I would have added a parm to the ALLOC member of PARMLIB that would indicate whether or not if a dataset was migrated it should be recalled for DELETE process

Re: IBM z/OS Management Facility V1.11 -- A new face for z/OS

2009-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:38:03 -0400, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: Correction! The Service and Support is also priced at zero dollars. ... But SEPARATELY priced at zero dollars. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:52 -0400, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: So, Denver is going to be my first real SHARE trip since 2000, who else is going to be there? ... Since my SHAREing days are over I humbly request you and/or others to snub someone for me. I'd hate to think that SHARE

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-20 Thread Chris Craddock
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Patrick O'Keefe patrick.oke...@wamu.netwrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:52 -0400, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: So, Denver is going to be my first real SHARE trip since 2000, who else is going to be there? ... Since my SHAREing days are over I

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:35:32 -0500, Matthew Stitt wrote: I actually like Lizette's solution far better than development. Her solution is more functional and less specific. I know of many that use the allocation routines for dataset work without using IEFBR14 (I for one). All you need is to

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Chris Craddock wrote: Yeah, and since I started the whole snubbing thing, I'd appreciate it if y'all would just snub each other on my behalf. (I won't be there either) But it was *great* to see you in Austin. We'll keep a seat at the dinner table available for your next SHARE visit...

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Since the initiator doesn't know whether any program will OPEN a data set or not, this can be made to work only if all RECALLs are deferred until OPEN. This then means that RECALLs will proceed consecutively rather than concurrently, with attendant performance

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Greg Price
Rick Fochtman wrote: I know of a LLA exit written by Greg Price that can help with module counts. Thanks for the kind words, Rick. The LLA exit 1 concept is fairly straightforward (Rob Scott also did it in MXI) but only covers LLA-managed programs. To capture most program usage reliably takes