Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-15 Thread Bob Shannon
Interesting posting IMO. Most system programmers are smart operators who know SMP, MVS facilities, and MVS dumps. It depends on the shop. I've worked places where most systems programmers came from operations, and others where none of the systems programmers came from operations. I see

Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-15 Thread CKH - too bad about mainframes.
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Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-15 Thread Scott
No, this cynical, evolving mindset of the fiduciary duty as a catch-all excuse for evil is really fucking stupid. It is not a slippery slope where the CEO will be thrown in jail, if he doesn't sponsor the overthrow of some government, because his company will sell more table napkins. Reducing

Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. zosw...@gmail.com (P S) writes: That's assuming that this lying violates the law...not necessarily the case (though one can hope). re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#80 IBM

Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-15 Thread Bobbie Jo
pms mode on. It should be called cannibalism, instead of capitalism. What we need is a president that comes in and says, NO MORE LAYOFFS, NO MORE OUTSOURCING, NO MORE OFFSHORING, NO MORE H1B VISAs, and any company that has sent jobs overseas for the last 30 years has exactly 5 minutes to

EZASMI TIE storage

2009-11-15 Thread Joe Reichman
Hi, Is there supposed to be A Task interface area for each Connection if so.. What Task Area should be coded on the Select the porpoise of which is to look for new connections/activity... thankx -- For

Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Nov 2009 12:24:50 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: pms mode on. It should be called cannibalism, instead of capitalism. What we need is a president that comes in and says, NO MORE LAYOFFS, NO MORE OUTSOURCING, NO MORE OFFSHORING, NO MORE H1B VISAs, and any company that has

Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp

2009-11-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
I think the general reaction relates to the fact that you're talking about disaster recovery (DR). In a DR situation it's particularly important to rely only on simple, repeatable procedures that work in as many situations as possible. So, in this case, what happens when (it's not if) you have to

Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp

2009-11-15 Thread Lorne Dudley
Hello Timothy ! Your reaction is acceptable. As I have mentioned earlier in this dialog, this is just one of many options we may have at our DR site. If it happens to work and is the fastest option at that particular time, that is the option that WE will use. We have a couple of other