IDCNOGFL putput listing is similar to IDCAMS is.
Since 70's we don't investigate in listings produced by utilities or programs.
We
had a big problem in our shop because a production JCL made a wrong
decission as result of investigated output lines from a utility.
Since that, we obtain info
Hello - I am trying to write an SQL that will create a list of foreign keys in
this
manner.
1) Clild_Table_Name
2) Child_Column_Name
3) Parent_Table_Name
4) Parent_Column_Name
I am able to get the first three data items by joining SYSIBM.SYSRELS and
SYSIBM.SYSFOREIGNKEYS. But I am unable to
Scott T. Harder wrote:
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but does this mean that all someone needs
is your product and knowledge of the id used, in order to generate the
key(s) to decrypt data encrypted with that id???
I am probably missing something here, but it sounds like there is something
Pinnacle pisze:
Anybody read the Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape as a
backup media? The guy writing it used to work for STK and Sun, and now
works for disk-based backup vendors. He says the following:
- 15% of all backups fail (my experience 1%)
- 10-50% of all restores
It's not what this guy is smoking, but what he is eating.
We have a saying in Dutch: who's bread one eats, who's word one speaks
(I hope I have the genetives correct). He clearly speaks the word of the
company that feeds him.
Kees.
Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote in message
Hi guys,
Not a tool, but I know of a company, based in the UK, that will audit your
zSeries estate, compare what they find against the licenses you hold, and
tell you what they found depolyed (as opposed to installed), and where you
are over or under licensed.
They came into our shop, and whilst
Hi List,
I have a question about a link edit job. What should we do, not to replace a
module in a load library, if that module already exits. We have many
INCLUDE SEGMENT(pgmname) statements in the member that we use to compile
so sometimes there can be duplicate statements that includes the same
Vince Getgood pisze:
Hi guys,
Not a tool, but I know of a company, based in the UK, that will audit your
zSeries estate, compare what they find against the licenses you hold, and
tell you what they found depolyed (as opposed to installed), and where you
are over or under licensed.
They came
When saving £200k per annum £15k is a small price to pay and if it took them
two months I doubt their day rate is very high!
Mark
On 24/03/2010 09:26, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
Vince Getgood pisze:
Hi guys,
Not a tool, but I know of a company, based in the UK, that will
snip
I haven't seen a bona-fide tape I/O error since my shop installed 3480
drives, lo these many years ago. What's this guy smoking? Whatever it
is, I'm sure it's illegal! :-)
Rick
/snip
I have to agree with the list, the last error on a tape (MF) was a
duplex tape where the physical tape was
I have to chime in to the contrary. I seem to remember many data check
errors on 3480 cart media. Am I the only one?
Scott T. Harder
Mainframe Services, Inc.
Naples, FL
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin
Phil,
Thanks very much for the detailed explanation. Impressive.
My interest is based on my involvement, not too long ago, with a commercial
z/OS crypto product where I had been looking at creating a key server to be
stored on z/OS (for all the usual and (I feel) proper reasons... RAS,
Good memory on the 3480 media. Many, many years ago, BASF had a problem with
3480 Tape Media cartridges. The company that I worked for at that time
received a large batch of bad tapes in a shipment, causing us quite a few
headaches. This was back around 1997/1998. Since then, I've used
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:58:03 -0500, Supra Uche wrote:
What should we do, not to replace a
module in a load library, if that module already exits.
Maybe I don't understand your question.
If you don't specify replace, the load module won't be replaced.
--
Tom Marchant
Scott,
I have to chime in to the contrary. I seem to remember many data check
errors on 3480 cart media. Am I the only one?
Spencer hit it on the head. The only significant problem with 3480 tapes was
due to faulty media produced by BASF.
Regards,
John
The PFA directory structure created by the PFA install script is expected to
be in the home directory of the pfauser that owns the PFA started task. For
example, if your pfauser is pfauser, it should be in
/u/pfauser
If you are using PFA in a sysplex that shares file systems for z/OS UNIX, use
The bad tapes would literally spew black dust. We had to have all of our
3480s cleaned thoroughly, and rotate out all of the bad tapes as quickly as
possible.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:06 AM, John Kington john.king...@convergys.comwrote:
Scott,
I have to chime in to the contrary. I seem to
Anybody read the Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape as a
backup media? The guy writing it used to work for STK and Sun, and now
works for disk-based backup vendors. He says the following:
- 15% of all backups fail (my experience 1%)
- 10-50% of all restores from tape fail
uh, not trying to give you a hard time here, Miss, but íve got a pdf of the
z/os Problem management guide (G325-2564-01) and íve run a search on
installing pfa and come up empty is this the correct book?
thanks
/s/ tuco bonno;
Graduate, College of Conflict Management;
University of
The only tape media I have worked with that had that sort of error rate was
8mm DAT. That was very unreliable. In 20+ years of 34xx/3590 experience
I've never seen that sort of error rate.
I don't think even the cassette tape used with the TRS-80 was as bad as the
DAT tape.
On Wed, Mar 24,
z/OS V1R11.0 Problem Management (G325-2564-05) Has information about installing
PFA
Gadi
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Bonno, Tuco
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/os
For all of our system specific directories we use a structure like this so that
we can have separate physical files but only one directory in the JCL or in the
configuration files.
In the system root we have a symbolic link, in this case '/pfa' that points to
'/$SYSNAME/pfa'. Then in each
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pinnacle
Anybody read the Mainframe Executive article on the death of tape as a
backup media? The guy writing it used to work for STK and Sun, and
now
works for disk-based backup vendors. He says the following:
Supra,
Your question does need clarification.
If it is about not replacing an entire load module or program object Tom
Marchant has answered it. Avoid (R).
If on the other hand it is about not replacing a CSECT/RSECT that is already
present in a loadable object I am not sure that I
VERY INTERESTING . and íd downloaded my version (the -01 ) from ibm site
YESTERDAY . where did you get your
-05 version ??
/s/ tuco bonno;
Graduate, College of Conflict Management;
University of SouthEast Asia;
I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !!
z/OS V1R11.0 Problem
Thanks, John. I wasn't sure of the circumstances; just a somewhat clear
memory of DCK's on 3480's. Everyone else was so clear to the contrary that
I just had to do a sanity check. It's good to know that I'm still somewhat
sane.
My best to you, John. Good to hear from you
;-)
Scott T. Harder
I searched for pfa here
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/v1r11books.html, and that was the
version that came up
Gadi
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Bonno, Tuco
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:32 PM
To:
I googled z/OS Problem Management Guide which gave me a link to
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r9/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r9.e0zk100/e0z1k11023.htm
from which I downloaded the pdf. it was the only version available there.
I searched for pfa here
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:52:10 -0500, Ray Prevott ray.prev...@wnco.com wrote:
Out security department is looking at Cyber-Ark to manage passwords for
some robot userids. I have set up the inetd daemon to start up otelnetd for
access to USS from a standard telnet session.
When I try to change a
The only significant problem with 3480 tapes
was due to faulty media produced by BASF.
I was a customer of them, back then.
I remember the pain.
But, back to the article.
Tape is NOT going to go away.
It's still the cheapest backup media.
It used to be the fastest for sequential processing, but
15k pounds??? Me! Me! Take me! Shrek, I know the way!
Seriously: I wish I would get such a job for that money.
Have you ever undertaken such an excercise?
If so, you'd know it's not as simple as you keep claiming!
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
Anyone here can help on a form/page definition...?
The first pagedef looks at a field in the record and determines what
pagedef it should use to produce the needed letter. This lets us put
multiple letters in the same output file to get a volume discount for
mailing.
problem is there is
Ted MacNEIL pisze:
Tape is NOT going to go away.
Agreed.
It's still the cheapest backup media.
I depends. Media itself is the cheapest one, but for small amounts of
data total cost of the solution may not be the cheapest. Good tape
drives are expensive.
It used to be the fastest for
Ted MacNEIL pisze:
15k pounds??? Me! Me! Take me! Shrek, I know the way!
Seriously: I wish I would get such a job for that money.
Have you ever undertaken such an excercise?
If so, you'd know it's not as simple as you keep claiming!
Yes.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
--
BRE Bank SA
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:03:05 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
In either case there are DOCUMENTS. The documents are not retired, fired,
died.
But, they are lost, incomplete, or misunderstood.
We're not talikng about group of PFCSK and bunch of PCs for gaming, we're
talking about
Scott T. Harder wrote:
My interest is based on my involvement, not too long ago, with a commercial
z/OS crypto product where I had been looking at creating a key server to be
stored on z/OS (for all the usual and (I feel) proper reasons... RAS, etc.),
providing the kind of unique and value-add
No, I haven't seen a tape failure yet. Except way back when we had a
3490 cartridge smashed and broken in places and the tape was hanging out
of it.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Pinnacle
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010
Hello,
Thank you for your responses, i could not ask the question properly maybe. I
will give you more information.
My job is :
USER1.PROD.LINK(TEST1) :
//TEST1 JOB CLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), MSGCLASS=X
// JCLLIB ORDER=(USER1.PROD.LINK)
//TST1EXEC TLINK,MEMBER=TST1
Mark Steely
During installation of z/os V1.11 it needs a directory of pfapath. Where
did you create this directory (root or create it own file directory ?).
Mark,
My ServerPac Variables setup:
PFAUSER = PFA
PFAPATH = /u/pfa
The directory, as I understand it, should be a separate file system
I'm not familiar with the INCLUDE SEGMENT statement, so I could be totally
wrong.
The Binder (linkage editor) does not replace CSECT's unless specifically told
to do so.
You can code DELETE statements to cause the binder to do that.
For example:
Member ABC has three CSECTS: A, B, and C.
Could someone provide a link to this article. Looking through I see
articles by Fred Moore and Jon Toigo (I know both and would consider them to
be my friends). But, I could not find the article being referenced (more
coffee will probably help me with that). I also spent 20 years at STK
Is anyone familiar with the SET NOPDATA[ON,OFF] command? Is it possible
that this is all I need to use to begin having my my NOOP CCW (x'03') records,
and the data I have within them, begin to write out to the OUTPUT JES Spool?
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r3/index.jsp?
Please bear with me. I'm primarily a CICS system programmer. I
posted something similar to the CICS List but now I really need to
understand it from the z/OS or MVS side of things.
We have multiple CICS regions (address spaces) in an LPAR and they all
currently share a piece of MVS storage.
Randy Chalfant was the author. Sorry, but my electronic copy is gone. I
looked it up in my hardcopy on my desk.
Mike Spencer
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Carl Swanson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:13 AM
To:
Hello, Please bear with me. I'm normally a CICS System programmer.
We all know the default setting for ALLOWUSERKEYCSA was changed
to NO from yes. This causes a problem for our CICS regions (address
spaces).
We have a storage area that we obtain at the first CICS address space
start up.
Perhaps if you look only at the media proper, but perhaps not if you look at
the TCO*.
A tape based solution almost invariably includes many humans and physical
activities in the process. That's expansive. Darned expensive. And slow. Very
slow.
Worse, in a DR scenario physical tapes are
Jeff Holst wrote:
Contracts - proves it's legal, but not that it's used.
Libraries - proves it's there, but not that it's used.
Easy - Use a Security package, RACF for example to do the proving. Lock up
those datasets with profiles and wait for the first cry from someone...
You can move the
From: Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com
Randy Chalfant was the author. Sorry, but my electronic copy is gone. I
looked it up in my hardcopy on my desk.
http://chalfant.wordpress.com/
He cites Gartner and Storage Magazine as the sources for his statistics.
Try configuring the OSA adapter off line to the test LPAR before deactivation.
HTH
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Mohd Shahrifuddin
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject:
Which LPAR owns the OSA card. I have all of the cards owned/managed by the
production system and have not experienced any IP hangs.
Pat Mihalec
Rush University Medical Center
Senior System Programmer
(312) 942-8386
pat_miha...@rush.edu
P Please consider the environment before printing this
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Diane Goodwin dgood...@amica.com wrote:
Hello, Please bear with me. I'm normally a CICS System programmer.
We all know the default setting for ALLOWUSERKEYCSA was changed
to NO from yes. This causes a problem for our CICS regions (address
spaces).
We have
Supra Uche wrote:
For example If i write the YBY402 twice it does not give any error in the
TEST1 job. I want to get a jcl error if i write a record twice in TST1 member.
I'm still not with you ... You don't get any error when writing a thing twice,
but you want an error if you write it twice?
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:33:46 -0700, daver wrote:
http://chalfant.wordpress.com/
He lost me with the first sentence. When a star is born, the mass of
the star determines how long it will live, ranging from millions of years
to trillions of years.
Considering that the universe is only about 15
I was just going through the book on what and how dataspaces work.
The other issue is that we save the address of this shared storage in a
common area. Then all application programs have the address in common,
will load it to a register in order to access the shared information (we
have a copy
Were you aware that the SMS control datasets do not need to be
catalogued in the master catalog? Ours start with SYS3 and are
in a user catalog. We've had it this way since z/OS 1.6(?) and
have not had any problems.
--
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
How can you have an SHCDS that has
Diane,
Does anybody need to update this storage area? If this is read-only, you can
obtain the storage in Key 0 for everyones reading enjoyment.
Maybe the list of things that actually update this storage area is
significantly smaller and therefore, changes can be made to them only??
Tony
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM, GOODWIN, DIANE M. dgood...@amica.comwrote:
I was just going through the book on what and how dataspaces work.
The other issue is that we save the address of this shared storage in a
common area. Then all application programs have the address in common,
will
There are a couple of programs that do update the area - I'm 95% they
only run out of one region.
But I need an area that can be referenced by an address and the accessed
by all the regions.
Diane
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
If you have a LinkedIn account, please participate in my poll to determine
Linux on z penetration. Feel free to comment here or on LinkedIn also.
http://polls.linkedin.com/p/81429/kyqic
Thanks
Alan Harrison
http://practicallysecure.blogspot.com
Hal Merritt pisze:
Perhaps if you look only at the media proper, but perhaps not if you look at
the TCO*.
A tape based solution almost invariably includes many humans and physical activities in the process. That's expansive. Darned expensive. And slow. Very slow.
Bad assumptions. No human
I found the article useless. Especially having just completed another
successful Disaster Recovery test using tape. Brought up both z/os and
windows using the same tape media without a single error.
Maybe he was referring to paper tape?
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From: IBM Mainframe
I had a tape error just last week. Tapes and drives are about 5 years old.
10079 08:52:11.45 STC06292 0080 IOS000I
0121,2C,IOE,01,0600,,**,A00298,EXHPDM 504
504 0080 0A4410D050405050 0001FF00
030C003117335490 4B04E8205C5B2011
Hi
To use the Data Space the program that creates it (the owner) will get an
ALET back from the create. You need to save this in common storage (now key 7
or below). All the applications can read the common but you are going to need
an authorized application to write to it.
Then
So is my problem the subpool or the key 9? This is one thing that I'm
unclear about.
The area has to be obtained and then altered from one region. This
region I do have a lot of the control of the programs in it.
Then the area needs to be able to be referenced by a pass address for
read only
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM, GOODWIN, DIANE M. dgood...@amica.comwrote:
There are a couple of programs that do update the area - I'm 95% they
only run out of one region.
But I need an area that can be referenced by an address and the accessed
by all the regions.
Diane
Are programs
This may not fit the bill for you, but have you considered using a
SCOPE=COMMON dataspace?
I would strongly recommend against using a user key
SCOPE=COMMON data space. It would have a security exposure
which is similar to user key CSA.
Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp.
Directly - because the address of the area is passed. So we just do a L
R15,address and the programs are good to go
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Sam Siegel
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:27 AM
To:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:01:46 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:
I'm not familiar with the INCLUDE SEGMENT statement, so I could be totally
wrong.
Have you INCLUDEd only sequential data sets, never PDS members?
The Binder (linkage editor) does not replace CSECT's unless specifically told
to do so.
You
Diane,
Based on the below code snip segment, your installation has a magic SVC
to get into SUP STATE KEY 0. which is also an integrity exposure, but that
is another topic. If the code that acquires the code is able to get into
SUP STATE KEY 0 to do the STORAGE OBTAIN, simply get the storage in
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:25:28 -0400, GOODWIN, DIANE M. wrote:
So is my problem the subpool or the key 9? This is one thing that I'm
unclear about.
The problem is that you are trying to allocate user key common storage. For
your purposes, you need it to be common, but you need to get it with a
Diane,
Yes, when ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) is specified, all CSA allocations must be made in
key 0-7. Otherwise, you abend with an SB78 or SB0A RSN=5C.
Tony Lubrano
Product Author
NEON Enterprise Software, LLC.
p: 281 207 4922 f: 281 207 4973
tony.lubr...@neon.com
What is zPrime? Find out at
So I really just need to change the key?
I can still use the same subpool?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Tony Lubrano
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Need to find
I've been following the thread on tools for managing z/OS system software
products inventory?
Lots of good reasons (many I can relate to) that explain why our simple s/w
lists are in error. Or as I like to say, to the best of our knowledge,
they're
accurate until the next error is found.
Thanks, I am looking at the article now and will comment on
specifics later.
Randy and I go way back even prior to STK days, so I know him well
and he is a friend. A quick review of the article (detailed review later),
it is obvious to me that Randy is speaking about Open Systems
No assumptions. This is all experience/observations from several iterations of
DR plans and differing management objectives.
In many (most?) tape solutions (to include ATL), tapes are physically ejected,
manually boxed, manually transported (via PTAM), manually stored, manually
retrieved,
If you have key 8 storage in CSA, then any address space, not just the CICS
regions can access and update that storage. Having no control over who has
access to that storage should be viewed as a potential Reliability,
Availability, and Security (RAS) issue. By changing the default for
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:35 PM, GOODWIN, DIANE M. dgood...@amica.comwrote:
Directly - because the address of the area is passed. So we just do a L
R15,address and the programs are good to go
In that case, using a data space will be difficult as it requires setting up
access registers and
Diane,
Yes, SP=241,KEY=0 is possible... You can check the z/OS Diagnosis Reference for
the various storage subpools and their characteristics.
As long as you don't select a fetch protected key 0 CSA subpool, you can access
key 0 storage from any other key... however, you must be in key 0 to
In reviewing our health checks the VSAM index trap was set to inactive. I
found the VSAM index trap feature is turned off on our system. Looking to use
as many health checker checks as possible I'd like to turn this feature on and
activate the check. In checking the ibm-main archives there was
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:58:46 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:33:46 -0700, daver wrote:
http://chalfant.wordpress.com/
He lost me with the first sentence. When a star is born, the mass of
the star determines how long it will live, ranging from millions of years
to trillions of
It's still the cheapest backup media.
I depends. Media itself is the cheapest one, but for small amounts of data
total cost of the solution may not be the cheapest.
Good tape drives are expensive.
Who backs up small amounts of data at a time?
When I said backup, I didn't mean users copying
On 24 March 2010 04:25, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote:
It's not what this guy is smoking, but what he is eating.
We have a saying in Dutch: who's bread one eats, who's word one speaks
(I hope I have the genetives correct).
That would be whose; who's is a contraction of who is
Perhaps if you look only at the media proper, but perhaps not if you look at
the TCO*.
A tape based solution almost invariably includes many humans and physical
activities in the process.
That's expansive.
Darned expensive.
And slow.
Very slow.
Automatic tape libraries.
Virtual tape.
Where's
On 24 Mar 2010 09:26:58 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
It's still the cheapest backup media.
I depends. Media itself is the cheapest one, but for small amounts of data
total cost of the solution may not be the cheapest.
Good tape drives are expensive.
Who backs up small amounts
We did almost exactly the same thing. Symbolic link at /pfa that points to
$SYSNAME/pfa. That is backed by its own zfs, OMVS.sysname.PFA. I would
be a little hesitant to put it in root in case it fills up, as it is sort of a
repository type thing. Then again, I don't claim to be a Unix Systems
In my opinion, a magic SVC is a MUCH WORSE integrity exposure than
allowing authorized code to GETMAIN Key 8 CSA.
Brian
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:45:22 -0500, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
Diane,
Based on the below code snip segment, your installation has a magic SVC
to get into SUP STATE KEY 0. which is
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Brian Peterson
brian.peterson.ibm.m...@comcast.net wrote:
In my opinion, a magic SVC is a MUCH WORSE integrity exposure than
allowing authorized code to GETMAIN Key 8 CSA.
Indeed!
--
This email might be from the
artist formerly known as CC
(or not) You be
We do a lot of performance and capacity studies for customers. We used to
only accept SMF/RMF data on tapes. Once we setup to allow customers to FTP
data to us the use of tapes fell off. At the peak I received over 500 tapes
in one year. Last I received 98 tapes, all the rest were FTP.
On Wed,
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Brian Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Trying to understand ALLOWUSERKEYCSA and subpool storage
In my opinion, a magic SVC is
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Williamson, James R
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Peterson
In my opinion, a magic SVC is a MUCH WORSE integrity exposure than
allowing authorized code to
Suppose your magic SVC does nothing unless the caller is APF
authorized?
In that case it wouldn't be sufficiently magic for use within CICS,
which runs unauthorized.
true. And what would be the point of a magic svc for an authorized caller
anyway? They could just as easily use MODESET
--
Hi,
I have recieved some TERSED SMF records and am unable to UNPACK them.
Without specifying DCB attributes for the output, the error message I get
is:
AMA574I RECORD FOUND IS LONGER THAN THE LRECL
AMA555I THE VALUES ARE: BLKSIZE= 8760LRECL=8756PACKTYPE=PACK
From System
Did they possibly terse the data from a tape?
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Yifat Oren yi...@tmachine.com wrote:
Hi,
I have recieved some TERSED SMF records and am unable to UNPACK them.
Without specifying DCB attributes for the output, the error message I get
is:
AMA574I RECORD
We have z/OS 1.11 running on our DEVL system. We shut the system down
using the same scripts that are used on the z/OS 1.9 system. We have
something really unusual happening. In a D A,L there is nothing running.
ACF2 is down, JES2 is down, OMVS filesystem and inits have been shutdown -
Hal,
You talk about the cost of tape handling being high, and use that to
justify remote disk??? Have you any idea what the true cost of remote
disk is? The fiber bandwidth cost alone far outweighs the cost of tape
handling for most smaller shops.
Radoslaw was talking about remote tape.
System REXX termination?
If you can't identify via manual means, try a SAF TRACE or SAD.
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We have z/OS 1.11 running on our DEVL system. We shut the system down
using the same scripts that are used on the z/OS 1.9 system. We have
something really unusual happening. In a D A,L there is
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Something is trying to do a SAF call.
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MVS is still up and doing things after you do your 'shutdown', eg your D A
command worked, etc. To stop MVS, do a QUIESCE, after it's 'down' and
removed from whatever
Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)
From:
Mary Elwood
Agreed. For that reason I usually call them rape SVCs. I certainly wouldn't
publish that I had one, and show everyone what the number is.
Brian Peterson brian.peterson.ibm.m...@comcast.net 3/24/2010 12:56 PM
In my opinion, a magic SVC is a MUCH WORSE integrity exposure than
allowing
If your shutdown process issues a Z EOD command, that may be the source of
the SAF call.
MVS will automatically switch to a different SMF dataset (i.e. issue OPEN) and
that may cause a SAF call.
Try removing the Z EOD from your shutdown process and see if the problem goes
away.
Then what is the point?
Williamson, James R james.r.william...@uscg.mil 3/24/2010 1:01 PM (
mailto:james.r.william...@uscg.mil )
Suppose your magic SVC does nothing unless the caller is APF authorized?
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