Re: LE calling assembler with 64 bit register usage

2010-07-23 Thread David Crayford
Phil Smith III wrote: We have a largish batch LE C application that runs in POSIX mode. For performance optimization, we're rewriting a couple of routines in assembler. So far so good. Here's the kicker: the application is 31-bit, but needs to use 64-bit registers (for large integer math).

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
snip--- But it's still a Green Card isn't it? --unsnip--- :-) Hasn't been green in over thirty years! :-) Latest version is white and it's a 70-page booklet. Sorry to disappoint

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Riedel, Alexander
The problem with the name z11 seems to be that this name is registred by Konrad Zuse for his first computers. For using the machine is only the HCD-Type necessary. Alexander Riedel -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Riedel, Alexander
But IBM i missing to deliver a set of coloured pencils with this booklet. Maybe we could open a request by IBM for this Alexander Riedel -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Sent: Friday, July 23,

New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Anthony Fletcher
I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195? Maybe z196 is a logical continuation of that? Anyway of the 1 means first, does that mean the next model will be a z296, or

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Anthony Fletcher wrote: I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195? Maybe z196 is a logical continuation of that? Anyway of the 1 means first, does that mean the next

Re: Mark Thomen

2010-07-23 Thread Klaus Stanislawiak
Sad news indeed. Joining the condolences from Europe ... Klaus Stanislawiak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
Number of capacity options maybe. Shane ... On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:57:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Werner Kuehnel
We have some problems to delete 3 datasets. The volume is SMS-managed, the datasets are in a user catalog. First we had just one dataset (FRZ0011.NETSTAT.LIST) which we can't get rid of. Some experiments created the other two: an IDCAMS ALTER created FRZ0011.NETSTAT.LIST.IDC1, an RENAME via ISPF

Re: Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Tolga
Hello, Did you try to delete those datasets through ISMF Panel 1 ? Give dataset name, specify vtoc as a source and write the volume serial. If you can delete the dataset this way then try to delete the catalog entry with noscr option. Tolga

Re: Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Tidy, David (D)
Typically we have had to resort to VVDSFIX for this kind of situation. Read all about it (+ link for the download) at: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3S1000618 Best regards, David Tidy IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf Dow Benelux

Re: Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Tolga, ISMF DELETE and delete with NSCR results in IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 90 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFO-54 Thanks, Werner Kuehnel Spezialist in der Abteilung Betrieb/Support IMD-Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Augustaanlage 66 68165 Mannheim Tel:

Re: Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Tolga ULUN
Hello, Reason code 54 says: 54Explanation: DELETE failed because the data set is being renamed but it has not completed. Programmer Response: Rename the data set with the IDCAMS ALTER command and then delete it. Can you rename the dataset to its original name? If you can, then try

Antwort: Re: Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Tolga, we already tried to rename the dataset, that's how the other 2 datasets (.IDC and .OLD) were created. Werner Kuehnel Spezialist in der Abteilung Betrieb/Support IMD-Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Augustaanlage 66 68165 Mannheim Tel: +49.621.457-4885, Fax: -4046

Antwort: Re: Can't delete datasets

2010-07-23 Thread Werner Kuehnel
David, VVDSFIX made it. Thanks a lot. Werner Kuehnel Spezialist in der Abteilung Betrieb/Support IMD-Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Augustaanlage 66 68165 Mannheim Tel: +49.621.457-4885, Fax: -4046 E-Mail: werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de IMD-Gesellschaft für Informatik und

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread R.S.
Anthony Fletcher pisze: I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195? Maybe z196 is a logical continuation of that? IMHO it is the proof that IBM marketing has no idea

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message news:4c4958c3.4090...@bremultibank.com.pl... Anthony Fletcher pisze: I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the

Re: It's escaped ...

2010-07-23 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:34:19 +1000, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: Pity the datasheet link is still broken - as it was earlier in the day on the .ca site prior to the announcement. Shane ... Sorry about the broken link. This was fixed shortly after 11am ET on Thursday. There were a

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-23 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:54:23 +0200, Erik Janssen erik.jans...@ing.nl wrote: There is even a (draft) redbook about it already: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg247832.html?Open Regards, Erik. There are five new Redbooks and one updated Redbook available at

Re: LE calling assembler with 64 bit register usage

2010-07-23 Thread Steve Comstock
Phil Smith III wrote: We have a largish batch LE C application that runs in POSIX mode. For performance optimization, we're rewriting a couple of routines in assembler. So far so good. Here's the kicker: the application is 31-bit, but needs to use 64-bit registers (for large integer math).

Re: U11-011 for periodic jobs after sadump - Head Up

2010-07-23 Thread Barbara Nitz
There were no takers before, so here's the update anf head-up: If you're running CA Datacomm in a MUFPLEX and you have the MUF shadow on the surviving system of any outage of the system running the MUF MULTI- USER AVAILABLE member, you're going to have a broken CA11! We have confirmed via

Re: U11-011 for periodic jobs after sadump - Head Up

2010-07-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
THUMP - back to the real world folks. Here we all were wallowing around in the prospect of having a whole new bunch of kit to play with and here's a reminder that we still have to deal with vendors who can't even manage to get their stuff working in the current environment(s). Shane ... On Fri,

Re: Mark Thomen

2010-07-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
First Bruce, now Mark. God is assembling a first rate storage management team up there! Their contributions to IBM-Main have been sorely missed for quite some time now. I have fond memories of loitering near Mark and Ron Ferguson while they were having catalog discussions at SHARE. Quite

Re: U11-011 for periodic jobs after sadump - Head Up

2010-07-23 Thread Donald Johnson
This is certainly an unfortunate situation, and yet since there must be more customers using CA11 and an alternate shadow system than Barbara, I don't think we can categorically say this is a vendor who can't even manage to get their stuff working in the current environment(s). I am not using this

OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Because of SPAM, our organisation decided to reject internet mail the with recipient's address in the From field of the mail header. While I do understand the reason for this, it inhibits receiving one's one posts requested by the REPRO listserv option. Does anyone know of some way to circumvent

UNTERSEing GDGs

2010-07-23 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
I am trying to unterse an entire GDG without knowing how many generations I actually have. I know it is at least one but it could be more. If I code and INFILE DD like //INFILE DD DISP=SHR,DSN=name(-0) I only get the most recent generation but if I use any other number I seem to get them all.

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS? snip

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
clever - ROTFLMAO Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com (Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4) writes: Isn't IBM nice? Being white when delivered, everybody can paint it the way he/she likes it most.. i've done a qd conversion of the old (internal) greencard ios3270 file to html. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html i've

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread - Tibish Mathew
Hi, Can someone please get my email-ID out of this mailing list ? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Anne Lynn Wheeler Sent: Fri 7/23/2010 5:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of - Tibish Mathew Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 7:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al. Hi, Can someone please get my email-ID out of this

Re: LE calling assembler with 64 bit register usage

2010-07-23 Thread Phil Smith III
Steve Comstock wrote: You don't need LE to use 64-bit integer arithmetic. Just use standard linkage conventions between C and Assembler. You can run in 31-bit mode and use 64-bit arithmetic no problem. OK, but the LE conventions for saving/restoring the 64-bit registers must be followed (it

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
If your company allows access to webmail accounts, you might want to consider using a Yahoo or Gmail account for your subscriptions to mailing lists. I use a Yahoo account for the dozen or so mainframe mailing lists I'm subscribed to.  Thanks, Mark Regan

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
If your company allows access to webmail accounts, you might want to consider using a Yahoo or Gmail account for your subscriptions to  mailing lists. Unfortunately, (and understandingly) all access to webmail has been blocked quite a while ago. I use a Yahoo account for the dozen or so 

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Zelden
The naming / numbering schemes have always changed for every generation. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:mzel...@flash.net Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as F...

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/23/2010 7:48:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes: Does anyone know of some way to circumvent this? I understand that I could cancel my subscription and re-subscribe anonymously. Does anyone know what exactly this does? REPRO is pretty

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread zMan
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: Unfortunately, (and understandingly) all access to webmail has been blocked quite a while ago. I like to to work with mailing lists while being in the office; after all, most activity on the

Re: U11-011 for periodic jobs after sadump - Head Up

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:56:21 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: There were no takers before, so here's the update anf head-up: If you're running CA Datacomm in a MUFPLEX and you have the MUF shadow on the surviving system of any outage of the system running the MUF MULTI- USER AVAILABLE

Re: how to identify members that DO NOT contain a string

2010-07-23 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Give or take a few years, but I would say it is over 20 years old. Kees. StevePratt steve_pr...@isp.state.il.us wrote in message news:9e5fd051-b58b-466e-8bac-59f6336cb...@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com ... And just when and where did this SRCHFOR command come from? This is news to me. And I

Re: Mark Thomen

2010-07-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- In a message dated 7/22/2010 5:07:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rfocht...@ync.net writes: Sad news for those of us that are relatively old-timers on this list. Mark Thomen, our VSAM and ICFCAT expert within IBM,

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Radoslaw, higher model of a 360??? What's a 360, much less a model number of it? Must be something really old!! Just kidding, of course. While I haven't actually worked on one (my first IBM box was a 4381) I do know what the 360 is/was. Just wanted to needle a couple of the greybeards on

Re: Mark Thomen

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/23/2010 9:20:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rfocht...@ync.net writes: Don't know. I got word from one of his co-workers. Got this from John Kalinic: ---snip --- I was looking up Mark's obit and saw you had posted on one of the IBM forums. Mark Died last night.

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread John P. Baker
Heh! I resemble that remark. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware Radoslaw, higher model

Who protects PDSs?

2010-07-23 Thread Kirk Talman
The protection of updates of normal files is done as I understand it by ENQ. As I remember, feature EDIF was added to the product MIM to offer the same kind of protection to members of PDSs. Is this kind of functionality now part of base zOS code? The scenario is: Job A is a low priority

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Heh! I resemble that remark. So do I! Sort of. Except, my beard hasn't been grey for over 20 years. It's a lighter shade of pale. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Scott Rowe
I would guess that it means it is the 1st generation of the zEnterprise, and his has a max of 96 cores. Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com 7/22/2010 6:57 PM Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: Because of SPAM, our organisation decided to reject internet mail the with recipient's address in the From field of the mail header. While I do understand the reason for this, it inhibits receiving one's one posts requested by the REPRO listserv option. Does

available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
Can someone point me towards a 'master' list of discussion groups, if indeed something like this exists. I'm going to check bama.ua.edu for others but I have to think others exist out there beyond the bama site. Looking for sites along the lines of IBM-MAIN but perhaps a bit more specialized

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
If you use a Reply-To tag on a post, does LISTSERV send the email there? Just trying. although, how would I make sure to always set this before hitting the send button? -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suiss -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/23/2010 9:54:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, weyman_s...@emc.com writes: others but I have to think others exist out there beyond the bama site. Looking for sites along the lines of IBM-MAIN but perhaps a bit more specialized (IBM hardware, BCPii, HMC, etc). There's

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: If you use a Reply-To tag on a post, does LISTSERV send the email there? Just trying. although, how would I make sure to always set this before hitting the send button? I was thinking, if LISTSERV would cooperate, you could use an alias email

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you have specific areas you are interested in? There are newsgroups for just about everything mainframe or distributed. IBM Main is a fairly broad area of interests and covers the elements you are looking for (BCPii, HMC, etc..). I am not currently aware of specific newsgroups for those

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
I was thinking, if LISTSERV would cooperate, you could use an alias email address in your Reply-To tag. The last message was sent with a different mail address as Reply-to address. Didn't help. I may rethink zMan's suggestion, although that kind of forwarding is disallowed as well (I'll have

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.htm The master list of LISTSERVs is at http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.html  Thanks, Mark Regan From: Stan Weyman weyman_s...@emc.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:54:55 AM Subject: available lists   Can

ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have been asked to research the use of ICSF in DB2. I know that ICSF comes with z/OS. However, I am not sure if it really requires a Crypto card to run. Q1: Can you run ICSF without a Crypto Card? Second, the intent is to encrypt row(s) of DB2 Data. Is ICSF the best way to go or are

Re: Who protects PDSs?

2010-07-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:34:01 -0400, Kirk Talman wrote: Job A is a low priority job run by group X which scans a library using DISP=SHR,DSN=whatever. Job B is a low priority job run by group Y which updates members in the same library using DISP=OLD,DSN=whatever(membername). The question is: Is

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Howard Brazee
snip--- But it's still a Green Card isn't it? --unsnip- :-) Hasn't been green in over thirty years! :-) Mine's still green.

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Don Williams
It's was already referred to as POPS when I started in 1968. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
--Original Message-- From: Ken Porowski Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al. Sent: Jul 22, 2010 5:04 PM But it's still a Green Card isn't it? SNIPPAGE Aren't Green Cards

New IBM Mainframe

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Gould
Watch the Wraphttp://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/supercomputers/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=226200076cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-07-23_h The zEnterprise server, which supercedes the z10 in IBM's heavy metal lineup, can absorb a broad range of tasks and platforms that are generally strewn

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/23/2010 10:17:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes: http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.html Thanks, Thanks for errata. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Don Williams
PCP - MFT - MVT - MVS... IBM sales was changing the name even when it was free (i.e., bundled with the hardware). I guess you just can't keep a salesman from improving a name. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus

Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-23 Thread John Eells
Lizette Koehler wrote: I have been asked to research the use of ICSF in DB2. I know that ICSF comes with z/OS. However, I am not sure if it really requires a Crypto card to run. Q1: Can you run ICSF without a Crypto Card? Yes. ICSF uses CPACFs in addition to crypto cards, and will also

Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 07/23/10 11:18, Lizette Koehler wrote: I have been asked to research the use of ICSF in DB2. I know that ICSF comes with z/OS. However, I am not sure if it really requires a Crypto card to run. Q1: Can you run ICSF without a Crypto Card? Second, the intent is to encrypt row(s) of DB2

Re: OT: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 July 2010 09:29, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: If your company allows access to webmail accounts, you might want to consider using a Yahoo or Gmail account for your subscriptions to mailing lists. Unfortunately, (and understandingly) all access to webmail

CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread Don Williams
Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was not the only one pronouncing it - kicks. I polled my classmates and kicks won. I felt good. So no matter what IBM renames it; if it looks like CICS,

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread Donald Johnson
Why use four syllables when one will do - that's effieciency! On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was not the only

Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2 I have been asked to research the use of ICSF in DB2. I know that

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread zMan
It's always appeared to me to be: Americans: see-eye-see-ess Others: kicks On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: Early in my career, I started pronouncing CICS - kicks. Others sysprogs tried correcting me: C-I-C-S. Then I went to a class and found that I was

Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS00006

2010-07-23 Thread Micheal Butz
I got the following message running TSO in batch using the receive command My question doing a receive command what does SYS6 Look for IEF877E IBMUSER$ NEEDS 1 UNIT(S) 925 FOR RECEIVE SYS6 FOR VOLUME SCRTCH- 1

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Don Williams
Not in 1988. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Phoenix Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al. Ted MacNEIL wrote: I even drew up a comic, in

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Don Williams
Since before my hair was grey. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al. But it's still a Green Card

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread Don Williams
This American has been calling it kicks for over 30 years. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO,

Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-23 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
We do DB2 row encrypt/decrypt using the ICSF CSNBENC and CSNBDEC service. We did this a couple of years ago, but we tested the various ICSF services and the KMC assembler instruction. We found the CSNBENC service worked the quickest when setup to utilize the CPACF hardware function and not

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
donb...@gmail.com (Don Williams) writes: PCP - MFT - MVT - MVS... IBM sales was changing the name even when it was pcp, mft/mft-ii, mvt were all sysgen options for os/360 (as opposed to dos/360) for 370 virtual memory there was DOS-DOS/VS; MFT-OS/VS1 and MVT-OS/VS2 (and cp67-vm37). initial

Re: New IBM Mainframe

2010-07-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Jul 2010 08:35:23 -0700, ps2...@yahoo.com (Ed Gould) wrote: Watch the Wraphttp://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/supercomputers/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=226200076cid=nl_IW_daily_2010-07-23_h The zEnterprise server, which supercedes the z10 in IBM's heavy metal lineup, can absorb

7trk tape drive

2010-07-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would anyone know of one? Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Jul 2010 08:52:54 -0700, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote: It's always appeared to me to be: Americans: see-eye-see-ess Others: kicks My brother said kicks. I don't know where he got that, he lived in California. Wherever I've worked it was see-eye-see-ess, including trips to

Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
Would you mind please sending me a copy also? Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Wissink, Brad [ITSYS] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2 We do DB2

Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.

2010-07-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Jul 2010 08:25:57 -0700, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) wrote: SNIPPAGE Aren't Green Cards purple now? zShields up Green blackberries are red. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS00006

2010-07-23 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Do you have at least one disk volume mounted STORAGE or PUBLIC in your system's DASD farm? RECEIVE needs room to allocate a temporary dataset. Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Micheal Butz Sent:

Re: Mark Thomen

2010-07-23 Thread A L Hughes
So sad to lose someone so gifted and still comparatively young. Through IBM-MAIN, I felt that Mark was a 'friend' - same as Bruce. I never met them, but their contribution was always invaluable and appreciated by everyone. Real gentle men. My condolences to Mark's family. A very sad loss. As

Re: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS00006

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:59:43 -0400, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: I got the following message running TSO in batch using the receive command My question doing a receive command what does SYS6 Look for IEF877E IBMUSER$ NEEDS 1 UNIT(S) 925 FOR RECEIVE SYS6 FOR

IFL Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Ken Porowski
Anyone know what the IFL price will be on the z196. Marketing info states it is 33% less than an IFL on a z10EC. Ken Porowski VP Mainframe Administration CIT Group -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS00006

2010-07-23 Thread Micheal Butz
None of DASD are SMS managed Thing is receive works under TSO -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ulrich Krueger Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive

Re: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS00006

2010-07-23 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: Running IKJEFT01 in Batch receive command SYS6 I got the following message running TSO in batch using the receive command My

Re: IFL Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
List price was reduced to $75K for z10 EC in August 2009. List price on z10 BC was about $47,500 That is my recollection and what is recounted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_on_zSeries -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
specifically I was looking for someone else who's gotten into using the new BCPii interface for HMC management now in z/OS 1.11 (and back level via distributable to 1.10). There are aspects about it that I'm not completely familiar with and was looking for some assistance. Haven't heard

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
thanks Mark! Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
thanks to you too Ed! Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Mills
It seemed to me to be a geographical thing in the US. When I lived on the east coast I always heard see-eye-see-ess and dee-oh-ess. When I moved to the west coast is when I started hearing kicks and doss. With the greater geographical mobility now and more dispersed corporations that difference

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread zMan
Actually I do know folks who say zohss. It grates on me. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: It seemed to me to be a geographical thing in the US. When I lived on the east coast I always heard see-eye-see-ess and dee-oh-ess. When I moved to the west coast is

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/23/2010 12:11:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, weyman_s...@emc.com writes: Haven't heard anything so I thought there might be someplace more specific to the hardware issues where I could try. I've been attached to the forum on and off for the past 10+ years and it's a

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
Agreed. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I do know folks who say zohss. It grates on me. -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Mark Thomen

2010-07-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
I will miss Mark's posts here sigh My condolences to his family, friends and to you on IBM-MAIN who know him. May God bless his soul. Thanks to Rick Fochtman for telling us. I remember that Rick wrote in October 2009 about Mark who will NOT return to IBM-MAIN. 8...-([ Crying ]

Re: 7trk tape drive

2010-07-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 7trk tape drive I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Would

Re: available lists

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
Steve did a great job with his share session (I've read it). I won't be able to do Share this time around but appreciate the suggestion none the less. IBM dropped the ball on the documentation by not only not including things that should have been in the Callable Service Guide but also

Re: 7trk tape drive

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/23/2010 12:51:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com writes: You might try asking at Goddard Space (NASA). They had some pretty old equipment. I was thinking maybe ask a good CE or local Branch. They can look it up on HONE if they're so inclined.

Re: How to avoid posts being distributed with poster's mail address as From address?

2010-07-23 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
When posting to the list, you could CC yourself. Since it is not internet mail but internal, the filter should ignore it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 5:01 AM To:

Re: 7trk tape drive

2010-07-23 Thread Scott Rowe
I don't think there were any 7-track drives left at Goddard when I left, and that was 1985. Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com 7/23/2010 1:51 PM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]

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