SDSF Authorization

2012-02-13 Thread Matan Cohen
HI , I have this Group definition on my ISFPARMXX : /*/ /* GROUP ISFUSER - General Users */ /*/ GROUP NAME(ISFUSER),/* Group name TSOAUTH(JCL), /* User must have JCL ACTION(ALL),/* Default route

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Fred Brooks' Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. already 1960s, IIRC Kind regards Bernd Am 13.02.2012 08:24, schrieb Edward Jaffe: On 2/12/2012 11:41 AM, Chris Craddock wrote: The (evidently popular) idea that you can pick a random group of (cheap) gunslingers

When and where do the BPX_POSPROC_INIT and BPX_IMAGE_INIT exits get control?

2012-02-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
When and where (in MVS terminology) do the BPX_POSPROC_INIT and BPX_IMAGE_INIT exits get control? I would like to take an exit right after the TCB is created, or if this is not available, before a process is started in a TCB. The doc on these exits are not perfectly clear in this regard. --

Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
I can't understand why we STILL need to specify SPACE= (etc) for an allocation of a dataset. You normally don't do that in other OS (platforms), You always (both principally and in practice) want to allocate as much as is needed during execution If for backward compatibility it can't be done

DFSORT Select First

2012-02-13 Thread Chambers, James
Hi, The below JCL is including only the records I want but it does not only select the first duplicate. //SORT EXEC PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=* //DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=* //IN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=INPUT.FILE //T1 DD DSN=T1,DISP=(MOD,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,(5,5)) //OUT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTFIL

Re: Effective AVG MIPS/CP on a Multiprocessor z10

2012-02-13 Thread Scott Chapman
I believe if you do this scenario in zPCR you will find a small impact on the GCPs. Probably something on the order of 1-2%. Which of course is well within the margin of error. Even though z/OS can't use those CPs, the work running on those CPs will impact the CPU caches, hence the modest

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
I can't understand why we STILL need to specify SPACE= (etc) for an allocation of a dataset. You normally don't do that in other OS (platforms), You always (both principally and in practice) want to allocate as much as is needed during execution If for backward compatibility it can't be

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I think that this paragraph is interesting: We were previously using configuration management version control, which required a lengthy code check-in process, said Clark Dudek, software developer, IBM Systems and Technology Group. Rational Team Concert has encouraged greater code collaboration

Restore db2 image copy backup efficiently

2012-02-13 Thread Victor Zhang
Hello experts, During backup data image to virutal tape, to same virtual tape volume, tape stacking is normally used, ie more than one datasets will be written to one virtual volumes,that's ok for backup. But DB2 lacks control to direct backup to which virutal volumes, which cause backup are

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Lizette Koehler Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 12:43 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) I can't understand why we STILL

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread McKown, John
Or, as the programmers at our shop would do: SPACE=EAT-EVERYTHING-IN-SIGHT-AND-CAUSE-OTHER-JOBS-TO-ABEND-BECAUSE-MY-STUFF-IS-IMPORTANT-AND-YOUR-STUFF-ISNT. Or SPACE=WHAT,ME_WORRY? Or SPACE=I-CANT-BE-BOTHERED-TO-SIZE-THIS-PROPERLY-AND-MY-PROGRAMS-NEVER-LOOP-EXCESSIVELY In many other

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote in message news:a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6263ff850...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se... -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Lizette Koehler Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 12:43

Re: Restore db2 image copy backup efficiently

2012-02-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Victor Zhang victor_wor...@yahoo.com.cn wrote in message news:5518873281104669.wa.victorworkcnyahoo.com...@bama.ua.edu... Hello experts, During backup data image to virutal tape, to same virtual tape volume, tape stacking is normally used, ie more than one datasets will be written to one virtual

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
My variant is faster to write! ;) (BTW, with my idea only needed space is allocated, there is no unused preallocated space.)   Regards, Thomas Berg _ Thomas Berg   Specialist   A M   SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 14:22 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) Thomas Berg

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Berg Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) My variant is faster to write!

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote in message news:a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6263ff850...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se... -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Skickat: den 13 februari 2012

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-02-13 14:28, Thomas Berg pisze: [...] With SPACE=ANY, the needed space is allocated and extended during the execution. So You don't do any preallocation of a specified amount of space. Thomas, Your idea is worth discussion, but not your requirement is off target. It is not JCL

SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
(This is an answer also to Vernooij.) Please consider what You do manually when the space is to small (e g B37 etc.), or You just is unsure: You try a bigger allocation, maybe also extend (or reduce) the secondary amount. And repeat. Often many times. Would it be a problem if this (more or

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread John Gilmore
Dave Day's comment begin snippet The idea of hiring temporary workers, the 'liquid' people referred to in the article, seems to me to be at odds with long term, successful growth. IBM is adopting Walmart's business model on this one. /end snippet is, as the MBAs would surely say, 'insightful'.

Re: DFSORT Select First

2012-02-13 Thread Mike Wood
James, Are the records already sorted based on the 'key' you are using to select the duplicates? COPY does no sorting, just looks at the records in the sequence you already have. Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Restore db2 image copy backup efficiently

2012-02-13 Thread Don Bolton
Terry, Here's someone that our xDB2 product could have helped. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Victor Zhang Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Restore db2 image copy backup

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Dana Mitchell
Reminds me of the 'pregnancy theory': Assigning multiple women to the task of having a baby, rarely speeds up the project. Dana Am 13.02.2012 08:24, schrieb Edward Jaffe: On 2/12/2012 11:41 AM, Chris Craddock wrote: The (evidently popular) idea that you can pick a random group of (cheap)

Re: DFSORT Select First

2012-02-13 Thread Chambers, James
Hi Mike, No they are not sorted, that was the problem, I was trying to keep them in the input order but I can do that by adding a SEQNUM using INREC. I have been looking at this for a couple of days and it makes perfect sense now that you ask but I couldn't see the wood for the trees. Thanks

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Art Gutowski
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:24:17 -0800, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: It's funny how so often, despite Santayana's admonishments, new management teams implement the same failed ideas (with new names) all over again. Politicians do this every 4-8 years or so. Must be human nature...

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:27:53 +0100, Thomas Berg wrote: I can't understand why we STILL need to specify SPACE= (etc) for an allocation of a dataset. You normally don't do that in other OS (platforms), You always (both principally and in practice) want to allocate as much as is needed during

Re: SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-02-13 15:21, Thomas Berg pisze: (This is an answer also to Vernooij.) Please consider what You do manually when the space is to small (e g B37 etc.), or You just is unsure: You try a bigger allocation, maybe also extend (or reduce) the secondary amount. And repeat. Often many

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:21:11 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Or, as the programmers at our shop would do: SPACE=EAT-EVERYTHING-IN-SIGHT-AND-CAUSE-OTHER-JOBS-TO-ABEND-BECAUSE-MY-STUFF-IS-IMPORTANT-AND-YOUR-STUFF-ISNT. In many other systems, such as Winblows, everybody gets their own personal space.

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.comwrote: I think that this paragraph is interesting: We were previously using configuration management version control, which required a lengthy code check-in process, said Clark Dudek, software developer, IBM Systems and

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
arthur.gutow...@compuware.com (Art Gutowski) writes: Patterned after centuries (millenia?) of cultural character - raze the conquered and build your empire on the remains. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#74 IBM Doing Some Restructuring? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#76 IBM

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 15:48 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:27:53 +0100,

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:48:57 +0100, R.S. wrote: Your idea is worth discussion, but not your requirement is off target. It is not JCL problem, it is z/OS problem. To fill the requirement the sapce should be allocated ad hoc, cluster after cluster (*). That requires total VTOC revolution. What

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:21:11 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Or, as the programmers at our shop would do: SPACE=EAT-EVERYTHING-IN-SIGHT-AND-CAUSE-OTHER-JOBS-TO-ABEND-BECAUSE-MY-STUFF-IS-IMPORTANT-AND-YOUR-STUFF-ISNT.

SV: SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För R.S. Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 15:49 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) W dniu 2012-02-13 15:21, Thomas Berg

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-02-13 16:14, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:48:57 +0100, R.S. wrote: Your idea is worth discussion, but not your requirement is off target. It is not JCL problem, it is z/OS problem. To fill the requirement the sapce should be allocated ad hoc, cluster after cluster

Re: SV: SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 02/13/12 10:20, Thomas Berg wrote: snip I refuse! :) (In my life space abends occurs regularly, often caused by circumstances beyond my control.) BTW, You latter suggestions is not bad - but You didn't go far enough! There should unlimited number of *everything*! Don't make artificial

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-02-13 15:56, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:21:11 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Or, as the programmers at our shop would do: SPACE=EAT-EVERYTHING-IN-SIGHT-AND-CAUSE-OTHER-JOBS-TO-ABEND-BECAUSE-MY-STUFF-IS-IMPORTANT-AND-YOUR-STUFF-ISNT. In many other systems, such as

Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I seem to remember an old SHARE presentation called (I believe) The Life of a JOB. I cannot find it in the SHARE proceedings because they only go back to 2005 and this is older than that. Would anyone happen to have a copy of this presentation? TIA, Jon This e-mail may contain confidential or

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:13:48 +0100, Thomas Berg wrote: Can you use UNIX files (zFS) for your purposes and avoid the archaism? Not practically. But that would be a circumvention, not a solution as I see it. When something doesn't work as desired, and it's impractical to fix it (R.S. appears

Re: SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote in message news:a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6263ff850...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se... -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För R.S. Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 15:49 Till:

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Mike Schwab
You can always take the capacity of your largest volume, divide it by the maximum number of extents, and make that your allocation size. Then it can spread across 59 volumes for the maximum possible data set size. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-13 Thread Ken Porowski
Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Maybe they should have kept the Mainframe? -- This email

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
This only works on an empty dasd storage group. In a well filled one, there are only few allocations per volume of this calculated size possible, reducing very much the real amount of usable space per volume. If you lower the size, there are more allocatins possible and somewhere there is the

Re: Acceptable paging

2012-02-13 Thread Knutson, Sam
At least with z196 I think the cost of real memory in the processor is low enough that you should be able to make a case to purchase more to reduce or eliminate paging if it is a performance issue. We manage to 0% residency on local page data sets instead manage real storage available budget by

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-13 Thread Dave Salt
Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Maybe they should have kept the Mainframe? By doing this, has NASA proven there's no intelligent life in the universe? Dave

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread McKown, John
Yes, I do this too. $HOME is managed by automount. So I don't even need to preallocate the filesystem. In addition, I have a /tmp2 subdirectory. It is like $HOME in that it is managed by automount. In /etc/profile, I make $TMP, $TEMP, $TMPDIR, et al., all have a value of /tmp2/$LOGNAME and mark

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread Barry Merrill
I believe the below ACHAP07 member of the MXG Source Library may be the information you requested, as it was presented at SHARE in the 70s and 80s. While it claims to be revised, it's still possibly out of date. Barry /* Copyright (C) 1984,1994 Merrill Consultants Dallas Texas USA */

SV: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 16:30 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:13:48

Re: R: Re: What QA tools do you use for testing?

2012-02-13 Thread Mitch
To Whom It May Concern: I think you are probably talking about code quality, and, if it refers to COBOL source modules, there is a product on the market designed specifically to help manage the accuracy of that environment. And, for the automatic creation of test data, there is also a product

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E]
I have a copy of the following: The Life of a Job (and the Exits it Touches) From Share 74, March 1990 By Mark Laman of IBM 24 pages -Original Message- From: Veilleux, Jon L [mailto:veilleu...@aetna.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Life of

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread John Gilmore
For now it is likely that some of the non-mainframe configuration-management schemes are more flexible, because less bureaucracy-encrusted than the schemes we are accustomed to using. The Anglican Communion's Book of Common Prayer has this to say about problems of this sort, which are

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Shirey
Really? Never heard anything positive? Ever read any of the messages that come from this list? I've searched the archives and found only messages regarding MacKinney that are either positive or neutral. The only negative comments I can find are from you. I won't argue whether the

Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Staffan Tylen
I can't get my head around this one, I'm 100% sure the answer is starring at me but I just don't see it. I'm writing an assembler program that invokes SORT using LINK. There are E15 and E35 exits to handle records going in and out of the sort, but it keeps abending with S0C4 and sometimes S0C1,

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/13/2012 09:19 AM, Chris Craddock wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Paul Gilmartinpaulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:21:11 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Or, as the programmers at our shop would do:

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Many of us out here would like to help you, but where is the 0C4 or 0C1? A snip of the dump with the registers and the PSW would help a lot. Chris Blaicher Senior Software Engineer, Software Services Syncsort Incorporated 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677 P: 201-930-8260  |  M:

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 2/13/2012 5:00 AM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: I think that this paragraph is interesting: We were previously using configuration management version control, which required a lengthy code check-in process, said Clark Dudek, software developer, IBM Systems and Technology Group. Rational Team

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread julian.lev...@gmail.com
I'm not really an asm programmer, but the 3rd parm '-1' looks iffy to me. Should you not OR the 2nd parm with x'8000'? Or can you use link with a VL option instead? Julian -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Staffan Tylen sty...@pf-one-consulting.com

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Just a quick question, are all of your registers clean 31 bit registers? No extraneous bits in the high end? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staffan Tylen Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Brian Peterson
SORTSTMT DCAL2(SORTEND-SORT) SORT DCC' SORT FIELDS=(1,1,CH,A)' DCC' RECORD TYPE=F,LENGTH=80' SORTEND EQU * I noticed you've not included a trailing blank after the last control statement. According to the DFSORT manual, a

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Hardee, Chuck
Couple of questions. First, did you link your program as reentrant? If so, it isn't. SAVEAREA is in your assembled CSECT. Second, what release of z/OS are you on? I don't recall which release it was, but if REFPROT is ON, then regardless of whether the program comes from an authorized library

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Are you sure you are a mainframer? From: Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:27 AM Subject: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) I can't understand why we STILL need to

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
I can't get my head around this one, I'm 100% sure the answer is starring at me but I just don't see it. I'm writing an assembler program that invokes SORT using LINK. There are E15 and E35 exits to handle records going in and out of the sort, but it keeps abending with S0C4 and sometimes

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Swarbrick
We do this.  And while it somewhat simplifies things, it doesn't eliminate the requirement of determining how much storage is required.  It just moves it, and gives a set of sizes, rather than infinite granularity. We have the following SMS data classes: DATACLAS AVGREC   PRIMARY SECONDARY 

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Swarbrick
If you specify a default data class in this manner does this negate the requirement for both SPACE and DATACLAS? Sounds good to me! Frank From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:43 AM

SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Thomas Berg
I'm beginning to wondering... :) But I started in februari 1979...   Regards, Thomas Berg _ Thomas Berg   Specialist   A M   SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För Frank

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I am having a hard time seeing this type of rationality put forth.  It's throwing me for a loop.  It's been a peeve of mine since I started on mainframes 15+ years ago.  I'm used to hearing it's your application; you figure out how much space it will require, both now and 10 years down the

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:29:00 +1100, Matthew Donald matthew.b.don...@gmail.com wrote: This month marks the end of an era in NASA computing. Marshall Space Flight Center powered down NASA’s last mainframe, the IBM Z9 Mainframe. For my millennial readers, I suppose that I should define what a

Re: NASA closes it's last mainframe

2012-02-13 Thread Bob Shannon
One of my favorite SHARE sessions was in San Diego 2007 when Jan Green presented Space Shuttle Usage of z/OS. That was a really good session. I shared it with my then boss who had been a NASA flight controller. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I have seen a drop in the quality control for z/OS and especially for sub-products but, as they say, YMMV. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Frank Yaeger
Staffan Tylen at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/13/2012 09:31:08 AM: I can't get my head around this one, I'm 100% sure the answer is starring at me but I just don't see it. I'm writing an assembler program that invokes SORT using LINK. There are E15 and E35

Re: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-13 Thread Brian Peterson
The program works when I change RMODE to 24. I suspect the lines SORTPARM DCA(SORTSTMT) DCA(E15_EXIT) DCA(E35_EXIT) DCF'-1' are not coded correctly - specifically the references to E15 and E35 exit address entry points. The manual says the

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAKXAhqVnjEpHL1xcVgdEi2uwAJ-fe-TngRwm41wH0ry7=qo...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/13/2012 at 09:19 AM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com said: I think it is fair to say that JCL and space management are areas where z/OS truly is archaic. The other world manages to get by just fine without having

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAKXAhqWuka6aU0PSMbAq14oReThhSmmvV90yd6r=jn90vbo...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/13/2012 at 09:10 AM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com said: It isn't that they are no longer using configuration management - just different tools with a different world view. In the non-MF world the process

Re: SDSF Authorization

2012-02-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caluepdivvf11qqoakq5ogtebmq1mszeh0rcqcefwjawyvyy...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/13/2012 at 11:48 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said: is there anyway to permit a user to process all jobs when he is the owner? or I must set SDSF with SAF? Use SAF. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:57:18 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: IBM has been using Agile development for the past couple/few z/OS releases. I am not aware that this development model has been blamed for any recent increase in defects or if such an increase even exists.

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
Anthony, if it's in softcopy would you please send me a copy? I would like to read it. TIA. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:18 AM To:

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:38:44 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: It should be possible to just specify data set limits in terms of data bytes expected or records/average-record-length expected without regard for tracks, cylinders, extents, or volumes. ... And the user interface should be simplified.

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:23:14 +0100, R.S. wrote: The only application I know that manages extent size - that means using some algorithm for extent increase - is MQ Series aka Wbesphere MQ (since version 6 AFAIR). It would be nice to have such facility in DATACLASS. Nice indeed. And someone else

Re: SV: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Field, Alan C.
Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2012, at 14:53, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:23:14 +0100, R.S. wrote: The only application I know that manages extent size - that means using some algorithm for extent increase - is MQ Series aka Wbesphere MQ (since version

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread zMan
From 1974? I'd be surprised if it STARTED as softcopy back then. But maybe he's scanned it...I'd love to see it, too! On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Anthony, if it's in softcopy would you please send me a copy? I would like to read it. TIA.

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Berg Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 5:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SV: Archaic allocation in

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Kirk Wolf
The official announcement is not due for 7 weeks, but the rumor is that IBM has new technology involving a massive BlueGene/Q system that will replace most of their software engineers, and that they have hired Jesse Anderson to lead the project

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread Kammer, Charles
This may be a newer version of the 1974 presentation from SHARE 94, winter of 2000, session #2652 ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/s390/jes2/Share94/JobRelatedExits.pdf Charles S. Kammer ckam...@bexar.org -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Life of a JOB

2012-02-13 Thread Ed Finnell
1st page: (Original by Bernie Becker 1990) In a message dated 2/13/2012 4:04:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ckam...@bexar.org writes: 1974 presentation from SHARE 94, winter of 2000, session #2652 -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/13/2012 02:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:38:44 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: It should be possible to just specify data set limits in terms of data bytes expected or records/average-record-length expected without regard for tracks, cylinders, extents, or volumes.

Workload Manager Performance

2012-02-13 Thread gsg
Is there any utilities that can be used to monitor WLM? Also, is there any utilities that can help you setup your WLM environment? Just trying to determine if our WLM is setup correctly for our shop. TIA -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:11:53 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: (I'd prefer, for legibility, SPACE=(1,54.000.000.000) with European thousands separators.) Not sure about your reference to half-word chunks. Although there are 16Mi limits on max numerical value for primary-qty parameter,

bpxwdyn rc = 4294967263

2012-02-13 Thread Scott Ford
All: I am testing a BPXWDYN call in Cobol  and I am building this allocate... ALLOC DD(TEMPFLE) DA(PIONEER.TEST.SYSIN) NEW CATALOG UNIT(SYSDA) CYL SPACE(1,1) DSORG(PS) RECFM(F) LRECL(80) I have tied with and without BLKSIZE(80) and in either situation see a 4294967463 return code Do I assume

Re: bpxwdyn rc = 4294967263

2012-02-13 Thread Gainsford, Allen
All: I am testing a BPXWDYN call in Cobol  and I am building this allocate... ALLOC DD(TEMPFLE) DA(PIONEER.TEST.SYSIN) NEW CATALOG UNIT(SYSDA) CYL SPACE(1,1) DSORG(PS) RECFM(F) LRECL(80) I have tied with and without BLKSIZE(80) and in either situation see a 4294967463 return code Do

Re: bpxwdyn rc = 4294967263

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:32:56 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: I am testing a BPXWDYN call in Cobol  and I am building this allocate... ALLOC DD(TEMPFLE) DA(PIONEER.TEST.SYSIN) NEW CATALOG UNIT(SYSDA) CYL SPACE(1,1) DSORG(PS) RECFM(F) LRECL(80) I have tied with and without BLKSIZE(80) and in either

Re: bpxwdyn rc = 4294967263

2012-02-13 Thread Scott Ford
Hey Gil,   I am giving the MSG(WTP) a whirl...let you know ...got to be something stupid Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 5:51 PM

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/13/2012 04:26 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:11:53 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: (I'd prefer, for legibility, SPACE=(1,54.000.000.000) with European thousands separators.) Not sure about your reference to half-word chunks. Although there are 16Mi limits on max

Security resolutions article posted, and query for education/training tips

2012-02-13 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Thanks for tips for this, security resolutions: http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Security/12-New-Years-Resolutions-to-Keep-Your-Mainframe.aspx ...and for great/abundant backup tips; that article to post soon. Next article will be on education/training -- mostly general tips, do's

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-13 Thread Ken Leidner
From an SMS point of view all is well. Allocation works has the correct attributes and is placed on the correct volume. At 05:43 PM 2/13/2012, you wrote: Ken - Scratch what I said. It appears it tried to allocate into SGDUMP first and failed. What are the volumes in SGDUMP? What are their

Re: Workload Manager Performance

2012-02-13 Thread Mitch
Which WLM do you have, or are you not referring to your scheduler in generic sense? Mitch -Original Message- From: gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, Feb 13, 2012 2:23 pm Subject: Workload Manager Performance Is there any utilities that can be used

Re: Very Lage Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-13 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/03/2012 12:19:04 PM: BTW if you have not already seen it, please look at our PMR 81276.227.000 for an agonizing saga of RSM/ASM misadventures. JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Just to follow up on

Re: Restore db2 image copy backup efficiently

2012-02-13 Thread Victor Zhang
To save virtual volume name space, there are thousands of table spaces that need backup. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: IBM Doing Some Restructuring?

2012-02-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
It's not mainframe v. non-mainframe. Rational Team Concert is available for z/OS, and you can even use it via ISPF if you choose. Isn't choice a wonderful thing? I think so. Timothy Sipples

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-13 Thread Ed Gould
Greg: I should have been more specific but I was taking about people who had to support and work with their products. I remember specifically at SHARE several conversations, McKinney came up and the best they got was yea somebody bought it and didnt go through the software selection