On 6 May 2010 13:25:37 -0700, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
Version for IT interlocutors:
Mainframe? z/OS? Is it a clone of AIX? Linux? C'mon! Since it's not
Windows, it must be any non-Windows operating system! [=] It must be
kind of Unix!.
I wonder how many operating systems
On 9 May 2010 09:21:10 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
Apparently abhorrence of liberty is the modal attitude of z/OS programmers.
Why do you work on a platform you hate so much?
Every one has some restriction that users of same don't like!
Find another field and stop b*tching!
On 10 May 2010 07:46:08 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
Apparently the person to whom you were replying was not aware that Windows'
main touted
benefit is that there is only one way to do something, so everybody must do it
the same way.
Windows is the ultimate in
On 10 May 2010 09:59:04 -0700, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
Anybody have a list of how much other mainframe operating systems are
being used?
The same answer as with number of mainframes at all: Only IBM knows and
it is the most bashful secret.
But there still are non-IBM
On 4 May 2010 08:11:31 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
I perceive intense agreement here, subject to paraphrase. Yes,
proper subset, so John might have more clearly stated, smaller
kettle of fish. All real numbers are either algebraic or
transcendental; mutually exclusive.
On 4 May 2010 06:37:45 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
Hum. Makes me wonder if any hardware will ever introduce rational numbers. One
rational register
which is 128 bits(?) long. It contains a 64 bit numerator and 64 bit
denominator. That solves the problem.
It
On 4 May 2010 08:42:50 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
3. Numbers that we cannot represent, such as e or pi.
FSVO cannot. Both e and pi are readily represented as sums
of infinite series.
Which may or may not be useful in our computations.
I wish CoBOL had a long type that is not limited by normal size
limits.A number that can be defined with a size as long as any
string the computer could handle. Sure, it would be as inefficient
as heck, but occasionally it would be useful.
Languages better suited for math could use it
On 3 May 2010 11:42:47 -0700, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant)
wrote:
Common decimal numbers such as 0.1 can not be accurately
represented in binary. If you divide X'1' by X'A', you will get
X'0.1999'. Or try this with your favorite hexadecimal
calculator. Divide X'1000'
On 28 Apr 2010 12:18:47 -0700, john_w_gilm...@msn.com (john gilmore)
wrote:
My own experience of these applications has been different. Most do work,
in the sense that they get some useful processing done; but this is the only
favorable thing that it occurs to me to say about them:
o In most
On 27 Apr 2010 12:37:45 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve
Comstock) wrote:
IBM's not telling the story of the glories of z/OS? We need
to make it seem more desirable than Windows and Linux and
Unix to the decision makers. Any suggestions?
The funny thing is that IBM doesn't seem to be
On 27 Apr 2010 11:19:52 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
Training for z/OS related cours are decreasing.
Does that mean there are fewer mainframes?
Or, does that mean there are fewer managers willing to spend money on training?
When the philosophy is to spend less on training, a
On 28 Apr 2010 05:57:54 -0700, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant)
wrote:
It may reduce training costs, but I'm not persuaded that a webified
application increases productivity over a well designed 3270 based
application. 3270 applications tend to perform better than similar
web
On 28 Apr 2010 07:34:11 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
I was told in 1980 that by 1985 all systems would be turnkey and therefore my
decision to enter into systems programming was a mistake. Best thirty year
mistake of my life! :-)
There are fewer SYSPROGs supporting larger and
On 28 Apr 2010 08:23:42 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
The funny thing is that IBM doesn't seem to be pushing Linux and Unix
on the mainframe either.
Our shop is going Linux/Unix and getting rid of its mainframe, but
keeping the mainframe was never considered.
Other than
On 26 Apr 2010 08:50:46 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
A faster wrench means you are driving the screws in faster!
If the screws are designed to be screwed in by a wrench, and if the
high speed doesn't mess up the hole.
But carpenters have alternatives to screws that often allow
One thing we can see is the number of jobs supporting mainframes is
down.This may be because mainframes are all running much more
efficiently, and we don't need sysops and programmers nearly as much.
But I don't think so.
Certainly, compared to the numbers of people supporting non-mainframe
On 23 Apr 2010 06:48:53 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
We also know that the answer but the number of MIPS is growing is
smokescreen - number of MIPS on my desktop grew up significantly, but the
number of PCs remained the same.
The number of mainframes remain the same, or
On 23 Apr 2010 06:51:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I bet the number of customers migrated off the mainframe is higher than
number of new customers.
Sucker bet!
Nobody will/has ever published the number of mainframes (or even mainframe
shops) in use.
First thing needed is for
On 21 Apr 2010 07:41:41 -0700, l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler)
wrote:
some of this view reflects the culture of the executives ... they are
brought in to plunder the company and then they move on to plunder the
next company.
Certainly. This is how politicians work too - spend money now
On 23 Apr 2010 05:02:51 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote:
[ snip ] Please...its much easier for them to
blame their problems on COBOL than to admit that they have done a
crappy job managing their legacy assets. At each step in maintenance
it is always easier to hack something
On 22 Apr 2010 05:21:09 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
COBOL can be object oriented as well. And it does interoperate with Java, at
least with z/OS Enterprise
COBOL (tho not as well as some would like).. It's just that people don't seem
too interested in upgrading
On 22 Apr 2010 06:51:01 -0700, thomas.kel...@commercebank.com (Kelman,
Tom) wrote:
It is true that back in the good old days companies would have
internal training to teach programming skills.
In those days, companies expected a good return on their investment as
a much higher percentage of
On 24 Apr 2010 07:07:19 -0700, m...@cartagena.com (Mike Baldwin)
wrote:
IBM calls REXX a language:
...z/OS TSO/E REXX Interpreter (hereafter referred to as the interpreter
or language processor) and the REstructured eXtended eXecutor (called REXX)
language. Together, the language processor and
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:28:29 -0700 (PDT), StevePratt
steve_pr...@isp.state.il.us wrote:
I think the point here is that just because some tacks the word
language onto a description is different than the *true* meaning
of defining a programming language.
Which is why I added the JCL comment, as
On 26 Apr 2010 13:11:21 -0700, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
I submit that MIPS is not a valid measurement, since it has no real
correlation with the amount of useful work accomplished by any machine.
One example is RISC machines. They have to simulate instructions that
non-RISC
On 21 Apr 2010 06:42:06 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve
Comstock) wrote:
Well! Maybe COBOL is no longer being taught in the universities,
but it is still being taught by us and our competitors and our
colleagues.
Maybe the Auditor-General people need to know that today's COBOL
can handle
I started in college in 1969, a few months before we got our 360. But
I don't have so much experience having taken time off as a USAF pilot.
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On 11 Apr 2010 15:52:15 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Pseudonyms have a long and often honorable history. How many of you who are
not francophone
know that Voltaire's real name is François-Marie Arouet?
I'm sort of the other way around, if you asked me who François-Marie
Arouet
On 12 Apr 2010 07:40:55 -0700, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey)
wrote:
An instructor from Verhoef made the observation in a class I attended
that he had never met a mainframe systems programmer whose first job
was as a systems programmer, and his students invariably would say that
they were
Pseudonyms can be used to avoid capture by authorities.
Although electronic media can be traced by someone willing to put in
the effort.
--
In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to
On 7 Apr 2010 06:51:15 -0700, esmie_...@yahoo.ca (esmie moo) wrote:
I have a problem with a batch job which keeps failing on a JCL error. The
first step deletes the dsn
and the second step recreates the dsn using PGM=IDCAMS. Is there a way of
having the job continue
to execute STEP2 even
On 30 Mar 2010 19:05:06 -0700, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
During the Chicago Flood of 1992, we discovered a number of holes in
our disaster recovery procedures, but our provider was able to supply
the necessary expertise and equipment to plug those holes. Consequently,
we were
On 31 Mar 2010 05:37:02 -0700, paulo.caze-si...@itau-unibanco.com.br
(Paulo Roberto Caze Silva) wrote:
Is there something like this using ENTERPRISE COBOL ? I mean, can I open
several files in
Cobol without having to open each one with OPEN FILE(FILE01), OPEN
FILE(FILE02),
OPEN FILE(FILE03)
On 31 Mar 2010 10:19:25 -0700, allan.stal...@kbm1.com (Staller, Allan)
wrote:
Heard that one before from various vendors HP, Sun, DEC, STK (before
they were Oracle/SUN).
No one has yet delivered.
What makes anyone think Intel can pull it off, where HP, Sun, STK...
couldn't
snip
from above:
On 31 Mar 2010 09:04:19 -0700, scott.har...@embarqmail.com (Scott T.
Harder) wrote:
Anyway... Yes! I think (don't know at all, for sure, so this is just my
opinion) that too many shops back up data and that's it. Without repeated
testing, backups are worth squat. Not to mention all the other
On 30 Mar 2010 07:49:57 -0700, leful...@sbcglobal.net (Lloyd Fuller)
wrote:
When I was at Orange Coast College in Costa Mesa in the early 1970s, the APL
professor had been fighting for a couple of years to get APL as his plate.
The review board kept denying him. Even though he explained what
I worked for a place that had to parse out user-written addresses. We
had a dirty word file containing words that we matched for, as an
indication that the address was fake.Got some false positives here
that needed to be accounted for.
I imagine the department of motor vehicles had some
On 26 Mar 2010 08:41:22 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
If UNIX is a plague, then what is Windows? grin/ And I still do a lot on
Linux work from
the command line. But I agree that native TSO is for masochists. I just wish
that there was
a Linux editor which combines
On 28 Mar 2010 21:00:24 -0700, tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com (Thomas Kern)
wrote:
I think it will be quite a while before all hard disks are gone, but it is
inevitable.
When my phone has a 16GB memory card in it and a slot for another 16GB, you
have to accept
that solid state storage is not far off.
On 29 Mar 2010 08:35:32 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
There are things that I like too. I especially like the EXCLUDE capability.
On the command line and on the line number. With the FLIP command as
well.
And the line commands. It is, to me, much easier to do a
On 29 Mar 2010 09:28:47 -0700, mp...@novell.com (Mark Post) wrote:
There are things that I like too. I especially like the EXCLUDE capability.
Me too. Sigh.
And the line commands. It is, to me, much easier to do a MM ... MM ... A/B
than a cut'n'paste of entire lines.
Now _that_ is just
On 24 Mar 2010 09:26:58 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
It's still the cheapest backup media.
I depends. Media itself is the cheapest one, but for small amounts of data
total cost of the solution may not be the cheapest.
Good tape drives are expensive.
Who backs up small amounts
On 18 Mar 2010 08:22:21 -0700, jim.mcalp...@gmail.com (Jim McAlpine)
wrote:
There are probably a number of ways to achieve the above but I'm looking for
the best way. Basically if any step in a job ends with a non zero return
code, I want to notify a particular user who will not be the
On 18 Mar 2010 20:13:27 -0700, frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com (Frank
Swarbrick) wrote:
BUt I think the issue that the op had is that the file was transfered to a
Windows system first,
in binary mode, and thus had Unix EOL instead of WIndows EOL. So connecting
to the
WIndows server and using
On 19 Mar 2010 10:57:29 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
How does Microsoft limit its hardware vendors that
is more limiting than what IBM (or Apple) does?
Micro$oft imposes contract that essentially require charging customers for
m$ software on every box
On 18 Mar 2010 02:08:09 -0700, gad...@malam.com (??? ?? ???) wrote:
Unix files use just LF as the end of line character
Windows files use CR and LF as the end of line character.
There may be some options on his Unix machine. For instance, there
are editors available on Macs that will save a
On 15 Mar 2010 12:19:23 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy
http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165
Does this mean that microsoft has stopped signing
On 13 Mar 2010 16:56:57 -0800, stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette
Koehler) wrote:
I have been asked if it is possible to take a PDF and load it on the
Mainframe for printing.
I'm curious - where did the PDF come from, if you are moving it to the
Mainframe?
On 15 Mar 2010 07:34:16 -0700, stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette
Koehler) wrote:
We use Extreme Dialog for forming the bill, but that is done on Windows.
So the bills come up from windows where Extreme can do the transformation to
print.
Windows doesn't have Partitioned Data.
On 11 Mar 2010 10:37:24 -0800, sredst...@googlemail.com (simone
redstock) wrote:
Most mainframe shops own File/AID. This has both an online and batch element
to it. File/AID batch is very powerful and we have replaced many of our
Easytrieve jobs with it. It performs better (less CPU) and is far
On 11 Mar 2010 14:44:31 -0800, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey)
wrote:
Most mainframe shops own File/AID??? I didn't know that, but I do know
mine does not.
Mine doesn't. Which could explain why I don't remember it having
Easytrieve type reporting capabilities, those could be new.
On 1 Mar 2010 07:55:11 -0800, thomas.kel...@commercebank.com (Kelman,
Tom) wrote:
The big problem is that no one knows how to read, or write, anymore.
This is always a complaint. And by always, I go back as far as
recorded history exists.
I was at a well known, excellent engineering school
I get a lot of these editors mixed up now. I have used several.
The last one my current shop used was SYSD, we got rid of it because
it was the only application we had using CICS, and CICS was expensive
for that one application.
On 25 Feb 2010 09:57:52 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote:
If you've sufficiently mastered the art of salesmanship, you should be
able to get any job you want. For example, name the only
so-far-unquestioned qualification of our current President.
That's it. Let's start a rumor that
On 24 Feb 2010 07:26:51 -0800, charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote:
No, no, no. It is not productive that the mainframe veterans have one
definition for server and the rest of the world has a different one. Server
is a computer science architectural term. It has nothing to do with the size
or
On 21 Feb 2010 05:28:15 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote:
Indeed. I wonder what the comparison would be between a senior Java
developer and a senior COBOL programmer. There's a perception here
that Java developers are cheaper than COBOL programmers.
It all depends on how we define
On 22 Feb 2010 09:12:16 -0800, pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Pinnacle)
wrote:
My fault. While my good friend is correct that this is an apples and fish
comparison, it was a reference to one of my main points that I did not
re-post. My thesis is that college students looking at z/OS or Java
On 18 Feb 2010 06:56:34 -0800, bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob
Shannon) wrote:
Any idea what Mike is going to do? He had been working on decimal arithmetic.
He's clearly too young and too talented to completely retire.
There still is a need for decimal arithmetic.
On 11 Feb 2010 05:37:17 -0800, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
Other computers didn't need the advantages of PDS's. Nor the
disadvantages.
Does anything other than S/360 derived systems even use CKD type DASD? PDS
directories are built around CKD.
And, in their day,
On 10 Feb 2010 12:09:58 -0800, hmerr...@jackhenry.com (Hal Merritt)
wrote:
PDSE's are very useful, as are PDS's. If you don't need the PDSE features then
why bother? You don't see many compelling business/technical cases to convert
PDS's to PDSE's.
My $0.02
Other computers didn't need the
On 9 Feb 2010 08:12:56 -0800, ds...@hotmail.com (Dave Salt) wrote:
Does this mean ISPF is already perfect? Or perhaps no-one is using it anymore?
;-)
I was thinking, I don't know the difference between ISPF SPF
anymore. Nor PDF.
It's *new* and *improved*!!!
On 9 Feb 2010 10:16:51 -0800, ds...@hotmail.com (Dave Salt) wrote:
I was thinking, I don't know the difference between ISPF SPF
anymore. Nor PDF.
SPF is the old (original) name for ISPF, unless you're thinking of SPF/PC
(which of course is an ISPF look-alike that runs on the PC).
PDF
On 28 Jan 2010 05:54:14 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.)
wrote:
BTW: The above is only one of possible scenarios. Another one is someone
simply subscribed to the list just for such purpose. What's sad: there
is no reasonable way to fight against it: everyone can subsribe to the
On 28 Jan 2010 07:34:29 -0800, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
Invalid PIN number; please re-enter
Personal Identification Number Number?
At least this is working communication - unlike trying to guess what
is meant by 12:00 PM.
On 25 Jan 2010 12:28:44 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote:
...please do not use words SHARK and DALLAS in the same writing...
...Lord Stanley's Cup will reside in San Jose this year...
Some folks at the southwest corner of Lake Michigan might object to
that
And it's about time.
On 22 Jan 2010 12:26:56 -0800, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
Ah! I intepreted beyond trivial as not trivial as the direction of travel
was not specified. My bad.
Not as, quadrivial?
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On 12 Jan 2010 14:28:02 -0800, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
---snip-
Shops like Fry's always annoy me when they ask for my Driver's license,
make a cursory comparison of the picture and my name with my face and
the card,
On 13 Jan 2010 07:54:13 -0800, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford)
wrote:
Is that SET in the subjecy or body of the email ..
Howard,
Is that SET in the subjecy or body of the email ..
I believe it's in the body. But I don't know, you can try it out or
wait for someone knowledgeable
On 11 Jan 2010 20:37:37 -0800, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
I'm not sure that matters; the sequence of year numbers can hardly
be coerced to be closed. For example, if from 1912 (sinking of the
Titanic) I subtract 1957 (dawn of the Space Age), I get -45 (the
year Caesar
On 11 Jan 2010 13:56:09 -0800, p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) wrote:
Fourth, Magstripe cards are easy to copy; chip-and-pin cards are (supposedly)
not.
Which effectiveness can be measured.
As for asking for a license, sure, it doesn't guarantee anything -- but it
probably stops the kid
who
Lots of people have been taught (by popular media?) to not sign their
credit cards.Instead, the vendor will ask to see their signature
on a different ID.
I don't know if this advice has been backed up by actual figures. We
get *lots* of advice from people who think their advice makes sense,
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:55:22 -0500, Michael Wojcik
mwoj...@newsguy.com wrote:
If the cook does an
extraordinary job, we rarely tip him.
At many better restaurants, servers are expected to share a portion of
their tips with the kitchen staff.
Sure - but his tips aren't related to his doing an
On 10 Jan 2010 22:30:41 -0800, Patrick Scheible k...@zipcon.net
wrote:
To some degree, yes. But people who carry your luggage are
customarily tipped, and they're really not doing body service.
I believe that's historical in nature. They didn't used to get paid
at all, but were part of the
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:10:03 -0600, Charles Richmond
friz...@tx.rr.com wrote:
Christmas or a Happy Birthday. If you received a long distance
call, you *knew* it was something significant.
See _It's a Wonderful Life_.
Every time the phone rings, an angel gets his wings!
Every time a
On 6 Jan 2010 18:03:31 -0800, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
Aristotle said The goal of war is peace, of business, leisure.
Making war for peace is like making love for virginity!
That's how virgins come into being.
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:32:43 -0500, Michael Wojcik
mwoj...@newsguy.com wrote:
...but here we disagree. I usually (in fact, nearly always) get
service that I feel is worth a tip. Servers, and other people that I
tip, are usually cheerful, friendly, and helpful. Certainly that could
be part of the
On 7 Jan 2010 10:26:24 -0800, jayare...@hotmail.com (J R) wrote:
... they don't use 'credit cards' as we know them in Asia. Rather, it is
more of a 'smart card' strategy.
The US is at least 12 years behind Europe, Australia/NZ and parts of Asia in
deploying chip cards.
Yep. This
On 7 Jan 2010 10:31:19 -0800, dennis.ro...@lmco.com (Roach, Dennis ,
N-GHG) wrote:
The number is not that surprising when you stop and think about the no cash on
hand philosophy.
Think of using your debit/bank/credit/atm card for everything you buy.
Morning coffee, newspaper, breakfast.
On 7 Jan 2010 11:44:55 -0800, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
Perhaps the Korean banks are competent? And they can make money by not paying
the account
holder all the income that the bank makes on the money entrusted to them? U.S.
banks used to
be user friendly and
On 7 Jan 2010 11:16:06 -0800, jayare...@hotmail.com (J R) wrote:
Why are they more secure?
On a mag-stripe card, the data is right there, unencrypted for anyone to read
and,
if they so desire, clone.
The chip is not just data; it is a processor. All data exchanged between the
card
On 7 Jan 2010 12:22:08 -0800, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
I got flagged once, at work, for using a very vile word in an e-mail.
I didn't. I was just discussing Soccer and a town that ended in thorpe'.
The word was pulled out of the middle of a larger word, without delimeters.
I
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:52:59 -0500, Walter Bushell pr...@panix.com
wrote:
They weren't really beaten, either. They ran out of fuel, food and
ammo.
That constitutes being beaten.
Logistics is a major, major component of warfare.
And business.
On 5 Jan 2010 14:08:59 -0800, pgil...@pc-link.com.au (Paul Gillis)
wrote:
I used Jol from 1970 through 1988 and was very happy with it, then
when I changed jobs I had to relearn JCL. Jol certainly provided much
of what has been discussed here since the early 70s.
Never tried a parm greater
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:20:46 -0500, jmfbahciv jmfbah...@aol wrote:
The goal of a war is to win to the point of changing
the mindset of the enemy, especially the populace.
That's *a* goal of war.
Goals in business or war are about of costs and benefits. The quoted
goal (which doesn't define
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:40:03 -0800 (PST), hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
As to IBM and competition, both Watsons had the attitude that they
'earned' and thus 'owned' or 'deserved' 100% of the information
processing machine marketplace because they were the best and worked
very hard to build up their
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:36:16 +0100, Morten Reistad fi...@last.name
wrote:
The Germans could offer significant resistance until January of
1945. Go read what the Ardenner offensive did to Eisenhower's
broad front. Now imagine what it would do to Patton's forces,
or Monty's for that matter if they
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:33:29 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com wrote:
2nd hand tale of some of the competitors testimony in gov./ibm
anti-trust trial ... all computer manufacturers knew by the late 50s
that the single most important factor in the market place was to have a
compatible
On 02 Jan 10 14:49:04 -0800, Charlie Gibbs cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid
wrote:
At least there was a somewhat reasonable excuse. At one PPOE I recall
that my boss and his boss would regularly spend $100 worth of time
arguing over a $10 item in the budget.
Sometimes that is a worthwhile investment,
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 18:50:35 -0800 (PST), hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
Around 1971 the Bell System implemented a major rate reduction and
rate structure change. All dialed direct calls became a minute
minimum instead of three minutes. Weekend and late-night calls dialed
direct calls became quite
On 3 Jan 2010 10:27:51 GMT, Huge h...@nowhere.much.invalid wrote:
When I worked for Xerox, my boss made an international telephone call to
query a 20c discrepancy on my expenses.
When I worked for EDS, I got called up because my meal expenses were
whole dollar amounts.We were expected to
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:29:41 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer
pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote:
Note that both Patton and Montgomery agreed that the best approach was
a spearhead across Europe into Germany. They disagreed on who should
lead it, each wanted to be the sole leader of the action. Eisenhower
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:02:41 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com wrote:
one of boyd's stories about ww2 ... was US running ww2 on mass hordes,
overwhelming resources, and logistics (because it didn't people to run
it based on skills). one example he used was sherman tank that was
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:18:21 -0500, jmfbahciv jmfbah...@aol wrote:
Note that both Patton and Montgomery agreed that the best approach was
a spearhead across Europe into Germany. They disagreed on who should
lead it, each wanted to be the sole leader of the action. Eisenhower
overruled both
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:22:24 -0800 (PST), hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
Many government agencies add very hefty surcharges to collect calls
placed by inmates in jails and prisons. They claim it's to cover
security costs but IMHO it's just a way to raise revenue. Usually
the families of prison
On 31 Dec 2009 07:40:03 -0800, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant)
wrote:
What objective would be served by converting to lower case?
Easier parsing. If everything input is all in one case, it is a bit easier
to parse the commands and options entered.
Significantly easier?
On 29 Dec 2009 07:57:38 -0800, mig...@yahoo.com (Miguel Soltero Diaz)
wrote:
is there a way to override a proc step file from a JCL with more than one file
using same DDNAME?
I have a proc using only one file and I need to override it with two files.
So I went up and coded both files in my JCL.
On 15 Dec 2009 05:23:16 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote:
It would seem that if Neon prevails, IBM's marketing credibility will be
reduced to that of politicians seeking (re-)election to high office.
I think you exaggerate.It will only be reduced to the level of
that Tiger would
On 15 Dec 2009 09:49:53 -0800, kees.vern...@klm.com (Vernooij, CP -
SPLXM) wrote:
Finally your local need can be easily beaten down: it will probably come
from the same users that start complaining when they have to invent a
password longer than 6 characters. By the time they are fully willing to
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