In 4e92f926.4040...@mentor-services.com, on 10/10/2011
at 09:54 AM, Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com said:
We have a much larger DS8100 that will be available to us in a few
weeks which we can configure and add any mod-27s if they make sense
at that time.
Don't forget to take your D/R
The COD requires 3390-9 or larger volumes.
In ServerPac, z/OS itself is not in dump/restore format, but in data set
unload (IEBCOPY, IEBGENER, IDCAMS, pax) format. The data sets are
allocated in the ISPF dialog.
The target libraries for z/OS itself will probably still fit on three to
five
John:
Thanks. I am leaning towards 3390-9 volumes throughout, as this is going
to be z/OS running as a zVM guest and the zVM guy is expressing a
preference for mod 9s for zVM. I have seen very little need for larger
volumes that mod-9s for z/OS so far.
It was basically a question of what
Lim:
Thank you. I wanted to know because I am configuring some DS6800 storage
on a system I am installing. We will first install zVM from DVD and will
be getting z/OS in this new DVD format and I wanted to know what size
3390s to configure. I was thinking that 3390-9 would be right.
Mike
Yes, when I did the ServerPac install for z/OS 1.12, somehow the 3390-9
fit the auto system layout quite nicely with the following system packs;
xxRES1
xxRES2
xxSYS1
xxDIS1
xxDIS2
of course that also depend on your site IBM ordered contents.
Regards Lim ML
On 08/10/11 10:10 PM, Mike Myers
Timothy Sipples wrote:
A tape drive is no longer a requirement to start and run z/OS -- thank
you, IBM!
Timothy,
Could you outline the procedure for installing z/OS on a greenfield site z196
without a tape drive?
Last time I installed z/OS on a brand new z10 at a new site, a 3590 tape drive
Nowaday, the IBM z/OS installation media are shipped with ServerPac DVDs.
But you do need a supported z/OS Driver system to kick-start the
installation, the whole process no tape drive involved .
Regards Lim ML
On 07/10/11 8:45 PM, Roger Bowler wrote:
Timothy Sipples wrote:
A tape drive is
W dniu 2011-10-07 15:10, Lim Ming Liang pisze:
Nowaday, the IBM z/OS installation media are shipped with ServerPac DVDs.
But you do need a supported z/OS Driver system to kick-start the
installation, the whole process no tape drive involved .
Regards Lim ML
In simple words, a *new* z/OS
I'm not Timothy, but since I was involved in formulating the way to do this:
1. Order the Customized Offerings Driver (aka COD, 5751-COD) on DVD.
2. Modify the default IOCDS to support the COD's I/O configuration using
the installation instructions that come with the COD.
3. Restore the COD
Ah, yes, Roger's a greenfield site means a brand new start-up site, I
presumed.
Sorry, I did not catch those American English.
Anyone still remember the video clip of Tape is Dead posted in one of
the mainframe forums ? I really enjoyed that.:-D
Regards Lim ML
On 07/10/11 9:32 PM, R.S. wrote:
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:11 -0400, John Eells wrote:
See Topic 3.1, What is the Customized Offerings Driver?, at:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2b1c0/3.1?SHELF=EZ2ZO213DT=20110615113655
John, is the COD usable as a rescue system? (Yeah, I see that it
takes two
Lim:
I've heard a little about this new delivery method. What size are the
DASD images on the DVD (3390-3, 3390-9, or 3390-27)?
Mike Myers
On 10/07/2011 09:10 AM, Lim Ming Liang wrote:
Nowaday, the IBM z/OS installation media are shipped with ServerPac DVDs.
But you do need a supported z/OS
David Andrews wrote:
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:11 -0400, John Eells wrote:
See Topic 3.1, What is the Customized Offerings Driver?, at:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2b1c0/3.1?SHELF=EZ2ZO213DT=20110615113655
John, is the COD usable as a rescue system? (Yeah, I
In 4e8eff5b.7040...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 10/07/2011
at 03:32 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
In simple words, a *new* z/OS customer still needs a tape for initial
installation.
The words may be simple, but they're also false and not what the OP
wrote.
--
Shmuel
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 12:53 -0400, John Eells wrote:
We support the COD's use only for installing z/OS ... safer--and not
very much overhead after you have done it the first time--to create a
rescue system of your own. I believe someone on the list (Mark
Zelden?) ... 2 hours *per DVD.*
All
I depend on the size of the ordered contents, you may have to build a
?GB size of USS dir to contain the uploaded contents from the DVDs, at
the Driver system.
When you install the ServerPac new z/OS target system, it can go to
3390-3, 3390-9 dasd system layout.
Regards Lim ML
On 08/10/11
Hi Mike,
This may of interest to you,
http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/en/zsq03038usen/ZSQ03038USEN.PDF
Regards Lim ML
On 08/10/11 12:29 AM, Mike Myers wrote:
Lim:
I've heard a little about this new delivery method. What size are the
DASD images on the DVD (3390-3, 3390-9, or
If you'd like to attach consumer-grade laptop hard disks to z/OS, go for
it! There's a prolific poster to IBM-MAIN who has one idea how to do that.
This company (no affiliation) has a couple other inexpensive ways:
http://www.mainstorconcept.de/zdasd.html?L=1
LOL x 1024 !!
One day in 1970 our boss had GIGA news and had to explain 1 giga = 1'024 mega
1 million kilobytes... awsome !!
FYI: Canadian National Railways' TRACS upgrade to 8 banks of 2314's, 9 spindles
each, at most 8 of which could be 'online' and at least 1 had to be 'offlline'.
We had
Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote in message
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We have about 11 TB on 18 TB of volumes for 11 LPars.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
LOL.
I remember going to a Share/Guide
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:14:48 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com
wrote:
That would do for my data on my 1TB at home, for which I paid over Eur 100,= 2
years ago.
What does IBM charge for 1TB these days?
About 4 Euros (yes, that's 400 times what you paid for your home 1TB!)
Of
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane
LOL.
I remember going to a Share/Guide presentation years ago by a bod from
one of Australias larger sites. The talk was how they managed their
humongous DASD farm that had recently passed the Terabyte
W dniu 2011-10-05 09:14, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze:
[...]
That would hold all data for 4 of our LPARS.
--
That would do for my data on my 1TB at home, for which I paid over Eur 100,= 2
years ago. What does IBM charge for 1TB these days?
*Fortunately* IBM has a competition in that area.
Anyone running this yet?
We have the necessary PTFs installed on our z/OS systems, but haven't upgraded
the DS8100 hardware yet.
Looks like fun! 8-)
--
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
310-338-0400 x318
That would hold all data for 4 of our LPARS.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
Anyone running this yet?
We have the necessary PTFs installed on our z/OS systems, but haven't
upgraded the DS8100 hardware yet.
Looks like fun! 8-)
--
Edward E
LOL.
I remember going to a Share/Guide presentation years ago by a bod from
one of Australias larger sites. The talk was how they managed their
humongous DASD farm that had recently passed the Terabyte frontier.
Shock and awe from the assembled crowd :0)
Shane ...
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011
We have about 11 TB on 18 TB of volumes for 11 LPars.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
LOL.
I remember going to a Share/Guide presentation years ago by a bod from
one of Australias larger sites. The talk was how they managed their
humongous DASD farm that had
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