Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-02 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Dave, I had a similar problem with appl environments which were not defined in WLM. Since then I'm sensitive to this set of problems. No, I'm not sure it's TCPIP alone. What I see is that PING times go up when capping starts and RMF3 shows big (processor)delays for TCPIP. Werner Are you

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-02 Thread Werner Kuehnel
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 02.02.2010 05:34:46: 30% of what? What is 100%? Velocity for an exvel goal. And I even found the rule in the Planning WLM book: Certain types of work, when overachieving their goals, potentially will have their resources

Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-02 Thread Barbara Nitz
The highest exvel I've used so far is 30 for the online workload (IMS, DB2). If I want limit donations from that online workload so I should define a higher exvel than 30? yes. That's how my odd exvel31 came about. I don't mind if higher prio work is assigned less resources under capping, but

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-02 Thread Werner Kuehnel
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 02.02.2010 11:01:03: Actually, at the time of capping (and tcpip NOT running), do you have service classes with a PI of less than 3? Less than 1? There are some SCs with a PI 3. Very rare are PIs 1, and then just for a minute.

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-01 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Unfortunately I don't have the data available anymore from last week. For another PMR at IBM I had to change the RMF intervall from 1h to 15min and the higher amount of data shortens the available period in RMF3. It's time to adjust the dataset sizes.. But this week is expected to get again

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-01 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Jim, we don't have DB2 in SYSSTC, just the IRLMs. Application Server run in an own SC with a high goal, but still lower than SYSSTC. Werner Kuehnel IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 29.01.2010 16:18:18: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Werner Kuehnel

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-01 Thread Werner Kuehnel
werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de wrote: From: Werner Kuehnel werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 2:30 PM The normal delay is under 10%. I can't think of another address space than TCPIP

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-01 Thread Werner Kuehnel
1. Check all things TCP for where they run. There is also a subsystem type TCP, do you have this defined? Or is there anything in service class SYSOTHER? All TCP related STCs are running with SYSSTC, no address spaces in SYSOTHER. I don't have any subsystem type TCP defined in WLM, do I

Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-01 Thread Staller, Allan
snip I don't have any subsystem type TCP defined in WLM, do I really need that? /snip There is no such thing by default. It could be created with a fair amount of work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:47:34 -0600, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: snip I don't have any subsystem type TCP defined in WLM, do I really need that? /snip There is no such thing by default. It could be created with a fair amount of work. A fair amount of work?? Under subsystem

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Tried already to shift TCPIP into SYSTEM, but is not allowed. WLM can not starve STCs defined in SYSSTC. Why does WLM not cut the processor for the batch jobs which are defined DISCRETIONARY? Werner Kuehnel IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 29.01.2010 14:49:44:

Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Ignorant questions: Does TCPIP handle the Ping itself, so no other adress space is involved? What is the delay % under normal (good) response situations? Kees. Werner Kuehnel werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de wrote in message news:ofe4dc5618.b4211958-onc12576ba.004c69dc-c12576ba.004d3...@mannheim

Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Staller, Allan
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Werner Kuehnel Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP Tried already to shift TCPIP into SYSTEM, but is not allowed. WLM can not starve STCs

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Werner Kuehnel
The normal delay is under 10%. I can't think of another address space than TCPIP to handle the PING. Probably OMPROUTE, but it's also defined as SYSSTC and is delayed for a much higher percentage than at normal times. Werner Kuehnel IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Thanks for your help, Allen, I'll check out the APARs. Turning on offload I'm a bit hesitant.. Werner Kuehnel IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 29.01.2010 15:13:33: Check out the info apars and (very carefully!) check out segmentation offload. You might want

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Jim, while you can assign STCs to SC SYSSTC there is no definition in WLM and no way to set the CPU critical flag. Werner Kuehnel IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 29.01.2010 15:29:24: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Werner Kuehnel werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de

Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Well, of course I can do that but they always warn to define unachievable SCs. Anyway, I'll give it a try. Werner Kuehnel IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu schrieb am 29.01.2010 15:51:43: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Werner Kuehnel werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de wrote:

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Staller, Allan
That is why I said very carefully G snip Turning on offload I'm a bit hesitant.. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Falcone
Werner,   I'm curious, how many CPU's? --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Werner Kuehnel werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de wrote: From: Werner Kuehnel werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: WLM and TCPIP To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 2:30 PM The normal delay