In 4ba89977.7060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 03/23/2010
at 11:35 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
In either case there are DOCUMENTS.
If you're lucky. Somewhere.
The documents are not retired, fired, died.
Just lost, misfiled or taken away.
We're not talikng about group of
Hi guys,
Not a tool, but I know of a company, based in the UK, that will audit your
zSeries estate, compare what they find against the licenses you hold, and
tell you what they found depolyed (as opposed to installed), and where you
are over or under licensed.
They came into our shop, and whilst
Vince Getgood pisze:
Hi guys,
Not a tool, but I know of a company, based in the UK, that will audit your
zSeries estate, compare what they find against the licenses you hold, and
tell you what they found depolyed (as opposed to installed), and where you
are over or under licensed.
They came
When saving £200k per annum £15k is a small price to pay and if it took them
two months I doubt their day rate is very high!
Mark
On 24/03/2010 09:26, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
Vince Getgood pisze:
Hi guys,
Not a tool, but I know of a company, based in the UK, that will
15k pounds??? Me! Me! Take me! Shrek, I know the way!
Seriously: I wish I would get such a job for that money.
Have you ever undertaken such an excercise?
If so, you'd know it's not as simple as you keep claiming!
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
Ted MacNEIL pisze:
15k pounds??? Me! Me! Take me! Shrek, I know the way!
Seriously: I wish I would get such a job for that money.
Have you ever undertaken such an excercise?
If so, you'd know it's not as simple as you keep claiming!
Yes.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
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BRE Bank SA
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:03:05 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
In either case there are DOCUMENTS. The documents are not retired, fired,
died.
But, they are lost, incomplete, or misunderstood.
We're not talikng about group of PFCSK and bunch of PCs for gaming, we're
talking about
Jeff Holst wrote:
Contracts - proves it's legal, but not that it's used.
Libraries - proves it's there, but not that it's used.
Easy - Use a Security package, RACF for example to do the proving. Lock up
those datasets with profiles and wait for the first cry from someone...
You can move the
My €0.02:
1. Usually mainframe installations are better managed than distributed
systems. The management is centralised, roles responsibilities are
clearly described and understood.
2. Usually mainframe shops consist of very few machines. Much less than
Windows servers. Of course there are
In such environment there is no need to install yet another software to count
the software.
Boy! Are you optimistic.
It's enough just to ask people responsible for the
softwaren - they should know what installed.
Not always!
I've been at many shops where IBM has come in to audit what software
Since mid of 2009 a new version is available: TADz - Tivoli Asset Discovery
for z/OS. TADz is completely new and based on a new architecure. TADz is
faster than TLCMz and the recognition rate is very satisfying (my own
experience in several customer situations). A simple and easy proof of
concept
Ted MacNEIL pisze:
In such environment there is no need to install yet another software to count
the software.
Boy! Are you optimistic.
It's enough just to ask people responsible for the
softwaren - they should know what installed.
Not always!
I've been at many shops where IBM has come in
In either case there are DOCUMENTS. The documents are not retired, fired, died.
But, they are lost, incomplete, or misunderstood.
We're not talikng about group of PFCSK and bunch of PCs for gaming, we're
talking about professional team.
Mainframe specialists!
Who, unfortunately, are only
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Any tools for managing z/OS system software products
inventory?
In either case
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:58:59 -0400, Don Imbriale don.imbri...@gmail.com
wrote:
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One issue is that in the database of known software sometimes the names
given to software is not what you might expect and in other cases software
may be mis-identified.
Sometimes? At our site, *much* of the
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:54:46 -0500, Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com
wrote:
IBM / Tivoli acquired SoftAudit which had some years back started moving
away from systems to more enterprise application asset discovery, with
various OPEN hooks and an SMF data-capture type agent running on z/OS.
Most
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:54:46 -0500, Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com
wrote:
IBM / Tivoli acquired SoftAudit
After IBM bought Isogon, they renamed SoftAudit to Tivoli License Compliance
Manager (TLCM).
The basic process, which has not really changed since the IBM acquisition,
is to scan all your DASD so TLCM can locate load libraries and gather data
about them. Run that through another program which
Also, even if you don't run the agent to collect data about what programs
are being run, you can get reports about your inventory to identify what
software exists and where it is located. You might be surprised to find old
versions long-forgotten or in libraries with unexpected names or even
For almost 20 years we've been using a homegrown application that runs on one
of our z/VM LPARS to manage the inventory of the various z/OS system software
products we have installed. Since it looks like z/VM may be going away at my
site in a few years, except for the ones used to manage our
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
For almost 20 years we've been using a homegrown application that runs on
one of our z/VM LPARS to manage the inventory of the various z/OS
system software products we have installed. Since it looks like
McAlpine
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Any tools for managing z/OS system software products inventory?
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
For almost 20 years we've been using a homegrown
Isn't your homegrown application portable to z/OS ?
Anyway, take a look at Tivoli Asset discovery:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/asset-discovery-zos/index.html
You can also include your penguin machines and manage them with Tivoli
Asset Discovery for Distributed.
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:07:54 -0700, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
For almost 20 years we've been using a homegrown application that runs on
one of our z/VM LPARS to manage the inventory of the various z/OS
system software products we have installed. Since it looks like z/VM
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