Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:26:26 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >On 3/12/2012 7:40 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: >> I don't know what you are doing wrong. You can use my CLIST "as is" and it >> should work. >> The key is the TSOLIB prior to invoking ISPF and using a modified BLSCLIBD >> that >> has "LIBRAR

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 3/12/2012 7:40 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: I don't know what you are doing wrong. You can use my CLIST "as is" and it should work. The key is the TSOLIB prior to invoking ISPF and using a modified BLSCLIBD that has "LIBRARY ID" instead of "DATASET" in the libdef. I didn't post that CLIST an

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <3302630680439302.wa.ronmacraehotmail.co...@bama.ua.edu>, on 03/12/2012 at 04:15 AM, Ron MacRae said: >Unless I can work out what's wrong I'll have to resort to messing >with ISPLLIB etc. What's wrong is that you have then new library in ISPLLIB, which overrides[1] the TASKLIB created by T

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:15:59 -0500, Ron MacRae wrote: >Mark, > Your CLIST is almost identical to my REXX exec. Except I have to > push the TSOLIB command onto the stack as it won't run under rexx, even with > an address TSO in front, and I therefore also push "ISPF" as well. > >I tried

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:15:59 -0500, Ron MacRae wrote: >Mark, > Your CLIST is almost identical to my REXX exec. Except I have to > push the TSOLIB command onto the stack as it won't run under rexx, even with > an address TSO in front, and I therefore also push "ISPF" as well. > >I tried

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-12 Thread Ron MacRae
Mark, Your CLIST is almost identical to my REXX exec. Except I have to push the TSOLIB command onto the stack as it won't run under rexx, even with an address TSO in front, and I therefore also push "ISPF" as well. I tried typing in your commands at the TSO ready prompt. Still no joy I

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/11/2012 at 08:37 AM, Timothy Sipples said: >I did not post my (unofficial) thoughts as merely an academic, >theoretical exercise. In particular, I'm aware of one customer that >grabbed Language Environment from OS/390, ran it on z/OS, and... >well, that wasn't (isn't) free. Never m

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Just ask IBM first, officially, that's all. I did not post my (unofficial) thoughts as merely an academic, theoretical exercise. In particular, I'm aware of one customer that grabbed Language Environment from OS/390, ran it on z/OS, and... well, that wasn't (isn't) free. And yes, it's occasionall

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Peter Relson
>> Q2) Am I wasting my time here. Should the latest version of IPCS work with all older dumps? >> No, what you are trying to do is necessary. IPCS is not backwards compatible. >Sure it is. Not it isn't, if by "backwards compatible" in this case one means that "z/OS 1.13 IPCS can be relied upon

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Clark Morris
On 10 Mar 2012 00:51:45 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Ron MacRae writes: >>I've got a REXX exec that sets up an IPCS environment for z/OS levels >>other than my current release With this REXX exec I can select a >>version of IPCS modules/panels/ for every release of z/OS from

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Jim Mulder
> OK, by now you see the potential problem. If you're running OS/390 V2R10's > IPCS, you haven't stopped running OS/390 on your machine. Which means you > wouldn't be eligible for sub-capacity licensing. That is of course not correct. IPCS (the dump viewing program for z/OS) is distributed i

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:49:48 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >If you're running OS/390 V2R10's >IPCS, you haven't stopped running OS/390 on your machine. Which means you >wouldn't be eligible for sub-capacity licensing. Say what ???. How does running a module constitute "running OS/390" ?. So IBM

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4631765647494587.wa.ronmacraehotmail.co...@bama.ua.edu>, on 03/09/2012 at 05:48 AM, Ron MacRae said: >With this REXX exec I can select a version of IPCS >modules/panels/ You seem to be missing the ... >Q1) Any idea why "TSOLIB ACTIVATE DDNAME(IPCSLIBS)" appears to >work at z/OS 1.11

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Ron MacRae writes: >I've got a REXX exec that sets up an IPCS environment for z/OS levels >other than my current release With this REXX exec I can select a >version of IPCS modules/panels/ for every release of z/OS from 2.10 >up to 1.13. Bearing in mind that I do not speak for IBM, I'd lik

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Jim Mulder
If you do not invoke IPCS from TSO READY, before invoking PDF, and then invoke IPCS, and you have a tasklib (Via STEPLIB, TSOLIB, ISPLLIB, etc), you may see a horrendous performance problem when you hit PF3 to terminate an IPCS report. There is recently opened APAR will will address this pr

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:20:54 -0500, Don Poitras wrote: >i Bob Shannon wrote: >> Q1) Any idea why "TSOLIB ACTIVATE DDNAME(IPCSLIBS)" appears to work at z/OS >> 1.11 but not at 1.13? > >> No idea. > >> Q2) Am I wasting my time here. Should the latest version of IPCS work with >> all older dumps?

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Jim Mulder
> I've got a REXX exec that sets up an IPCS environment for z/ > OS levels other than my current release. We have SYSRES volumes for > every release but don't have all the levels IPLed. With this REXX > exec I can select a version of IPCS modules/panels/ for every > release of z/OS

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Don Poitras
i Bob Shannon wrote: > Q1) Any idea why "TSOLIB ACTIVATE DDNAME(IPCSLIBS)" appears to work at z/OS > 1.11 but not at 1.13? > No idea. > Q2) Am I wasting my time here. Should the latest version of IPCS work with > all older dumps? > No, what you are trying to do is necessary. IPCS is not backw

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Bob Shannon
Q1) Any idea why "TSOLIB ACTIVATE DDNAME(IPCSLIBS)" appears to work at z/OS 1.11 but not at 1.13? No idea. Q2) Am I wasting my time here. Should the latest version of IPCS work with all older dumps? No, what you are trying to do is necessary. IPCS is not backwards compatible. Q3) If the answe

Re: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Hardee, Chuck
ist [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron MacRae Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13 Hi all, I've got a REXX exec that sets up an IPCS environment for z/OS levels other than my current release. We have SYSRES volu

Backlevel IPCS issue at z/OS 1.13

2012-03-09 Thread Ron MacRae
Hi all, I've got a REXX exec that sets up an IPCS environment for z/OS levels other than my current release. We have SYSRES volumes for every release but don't have all the levels IPLed. With this REXX exec I can select a version of IPCS modules/panels/ for every release of z/OS fro