Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
expired data sets by management class Colleen, I'll try turning backup off and see if they go away tonight. Just for my own knowledge, with the number of datasets deleted set to 1, I have to have a backup before it will allow expiration? I was under the impression that this was more

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-20 Thread John Kelly
snip I turned off the auto backup and my test datasets were deleted when they expired. unsnip Rex, now you have me really mystified. I thought that the thread indicated that you had HSM backup the DSNs (DCLASS, DSORG, etc) but they wouldn't delete. Now it appears that you changed the

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-20 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Kelly Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class snip I turned off the auto backup and my test datasets were deleted when they expired. unsnip

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-17 Thread John Kelly
snip From my SMS construct, I have the expire non usage set to 5 days: unsnip Since we seem to be to the point of 'grasping at straws', I would add 'are you sure the DSN has 5 days of non use'? I've had problem with things, eg dumps, scans, etc, causing the reference date to be updated. Haven't

DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Colleen Gordon
HSM cannot manage a data set with DSORG unknown. You must assign a dataclass for HSM to manage it. If a data set is eligible for expiration but space management is not expiring it; this indicates that there could be a problem with the records in the MCDS. You'll need to audit the MCDS to see

DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Colleen Gordon
By the way, data doesn't need to be backed up by HSM to be migrated. There is an option in the management class you can select that REQUIRES a backup before migration but if you don't have that turned on; you can successfully migrate data without a backup. There is no relationship between

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class HSM cannot manage a data set with DSORG unknown. You must assign a dataclass for HSM to manage it. If a data set is eligible for expiration but space management is not expiring it; this indicates

DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Colleen Gordon
Data Set Name . . . . : I.RRP.JUNK Here's the problem Rex, the expiration data is NONE. When do you want the data sets to expire? X days after creation or x days after last reference date? Setup the management class to expire the data sets in one way or another and they'll expire. General

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Colleen Gordon Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class Data Set Name . . . . : I.RRP.JUNK Here's

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
)-- MCINTUAT5 NOLIMIT NOLIMIT Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Colleen Gordon Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: DFSMS and deleting expired data

DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Colleen Gordon
Hi Rex, Yes, you're right. Sorry about that. Can you cut and paste the entire management class definition? Backup shouldn't have anything to do with it unless you have backup turned on in the management class. Colleen Gordon

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Colleen Gordon Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class Hi Rex, Yes, you're right. Sorry about that. Can you cut and paste the entire management class definition? Backup shouldn't have

Re: DFSMS and deleting expired data sets by management class

2009-08-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Colleen, I'll try turning backup off and see if they go away tonight. Just for my own knowledge, with the number of datasets deleted set to 1, I have to have a backup before it will allow expiration? I was under the impression that this was more of a maximum number of backups to keep for a