Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-16 Thread Joe Owens
Thanks Barbera, that explains 'mixed' perfectly. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-16 Thread Martin Packer
m Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Skip Robinson To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu, Date: 16/02/2012 05:07 Subject: Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List I checked out an MVS Image pro

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
Barbara Nitz writes: >And coming from a z9 presumably to a z196, chances are very >good that you would loose physical cps to keep money down. It's not clear yet which z9 the original poster has. Moving from a z9 BC to a z114, no. There are more capacity models in the z114 and more configurable eng

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Barbara Nitz To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 02/15/2012 08:58 PM Subject:Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List >Is it possible to

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-15 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Is it possible to mix shared and dedicated CPs on the same LPAR? No. Not on a z9 and not the way you mean. The RMF report deals with what an lpar can look like when it uses Hiperdispatch. That is not available on a z9. Hiperdispatch semi-dedicates logical processors to physical processors depen

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-15 Thread Joe Owens
Is it possible to mix shared and dedicated CPs on the same LPAR? I thought it wasn't, but a note on the RMF partition data report implies it is; On WGT Either the partition's current weighting of the shared processor resources or one of the following indicators: DED Indicates that the partition

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-09 Thread Bob Shannon
I do not. Sorry. Check the past SHARE Proceedings, particularly for Kath Walsh's sessions. Although I know of nothing specific, she has talked about topics such as this in the past. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN s

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-09 Thread gsg
Bob, Would you know of any redbooks/manuals that might discuss this? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Logical-to-Physical CP ratios, was: Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Last I heard from IBM and other sources, the "official" recommendation was not to exceed 2:1 logical to physical. I myself, have run with 3:1 logical to physical with similar results to yours on 9672, z/800, z/9 and z/10(no hiperdispatch). This seems to be a constant! No info on z/196 w/hiperdisp

Logical-to-Physical CP ratios, was: Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Our workload is entirely for development. Since we can't predict where demand >will come from we share all of the CPs so that capacity will float to where >it's >needed. One disadvantage is that this is bad for the cache(s). In our >environment >the cost is acceptable. I wouldn't do this if we

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Bob Shannon
> Why would this be bad for cache? Since multiple LPAR are isong the CP, because multiple LPARs are causing cache updates. If you have production LPARs it's best to limit cache updates to a single LPAR so that your cache hit ratio will be better. Dedicating CPs will do that. Bob Shannon Rocke

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread gsg
Bob, Why would this be bad for cache? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Bob Shannon
Our workload is entirely for development. Since we can't predict where demand will come from we share all of the CPs so that capacity will float to where it's needed. One disadvantage is that this is bad for the cache(s). In our environment the cost is acceptable. I wouldn't do this if we ran a

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Knutson, Sam
PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs I know you can define processors as dedicated or shared. Is there any advantages/disadvantages to dedicating some to specific LPARs and shared for others? TIA This email/fax message is for the sole use of the

Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread Linda Mooney
8, 2012 11:25:48 AM Subject: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs I know you can define processors as dedicated or shared.  Is there any advantages/disadvantages to dedicating some to specific LPARs and shared for others? TIA -- Fo

Dedicated vs. Shared CPs

2012-02-08 Thread gsg
I know you can define processors as dedicated or shared. Is there any advantages/disadvantages to dedicating some to specific LPARs and shared for others? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,