Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-28 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2009-05-22 at 07:42, concerning How do you handle SMS Pools out of space, Lizette Koehler star...@mincom wrote to IBM-Main: [snip] The pool is dedicated to DB2 Archive Logs. Normally our process [snip] works fine. [snip] when there is a runaway DB2 function or a large purge, it can

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just to provide a little more detail. The pool is dedicated to DB2 Archive Logs. Normally our process of a low threshold and migrating every night works fine. The pool stays about 80% free, However, when there is a runaway DB2 function or a large purge, it can fill up quite quickly. It is

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote in message news:2f58a5338b1c0044abe7d99aac2b6aef3f38c45...@houccrprd01.adprod.bmc. com... There are many ways. Creating overflow groups generally get messy over time because of the nature of the allocations. There is also Extended Storage Groups that

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Spencer, Mike
: Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote in message news:2f58a5338b1c0044abe7d99aac2b6aef3f38c45...@houccrprd01.adprod.bmc. com... There are many ways. Creating overflow groups generally get messy over time because of the nature of the allocations

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space Spencer, Mike mike_spen...@bmc.com wrote in message news:2f58a5338b1c0044abe7d99aac2b6aef3f38c45...@houccrprd01.adprod.bmc. com... There are many ways. Creating overflow groups generally get messy over

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Greg Shirey
Can HSM do interval migration more often than every hour? Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Co. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:28 PM There are many alternatives before you get to (outside HSM) automation. Two:

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Can HSM do interval migration more often than every hour? I honestly don't know. I've never done it less than that. Check the manual. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Greg Shirey
Well, I did check the manual (as of z/OS 1.9, it's hourly), but I'm not the one who suggested it could be done. Can't you fact-check your own suggestions? (I'm just asking) Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday,

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Spencer, Mike
4:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space Well, I did check the manual (as of z/OS 1.9, it's hourly), but I'm not the one who suggested it could be done. Can't you fact-check your own suggestions? (I'm just asking) Regards, Greg -Original

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Well, I did check the manual (as of z/OS 1.9, it's hourly), but I'm not the one who suggested it could be done. Can't you fact-check your own suggestions? (I'm just asking) I didn't realise I had suggested more frequently than an hour. If I had, I made a mistake. I just said more

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space Well, I did check the manual (as of z/OS 1.9, it's hourly), but I'm not the one who suggested it could be done. Can't you fact-check your own suggestions? (I'm just asking) I didn't realise I had suggested more frequently than an hour. If I had, I made

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Spencer, Mike
. Michael Spencer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space I meant less frequently than once an hour. The last

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In order to have interval migration less than one interval, you need two hosts, and you set each one to an hour, but the second to check 30 minutes after the first host. I do not recall the PATCH syntax. It should be in the manual. At least this is how I remember it being accomplished. I

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-22 Thread Spencer, Mike
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space In order to have interval migration less than one interval, you need two hosts, and you set each one to an hour, but the second to check 30 minutes after

How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
We have a couple of SMS pools that are usually 80% free all the time. However, occasionally they do fill up and I need to manually do ML2 migrations so the appls can continue to work. I am considering creating a rexx that gets kicked off by OPS/MVS to do the migration for me. I would

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How do you handle the need to migrate datasets out of a pool when it gets too full. What type of automation or manual process to you have available to you. There are many alternatives before you get to (outside HSM) automation. Two: 1. More frequent/aggressive interval migration. 2. Threshold

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-21 Thread Linda Mooney
21, 2009 1:07:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space We have a couple of SMS pools that are usually 80% free all the time.  However, occasionally they do fill up and I need to manually do ML2 migrations so the appls can continue to work. I am

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You could define an overflow pool in SMS.  Then when your primary sotrage pool is full, allocations would automatically go to the overflow pool. Geeze! Being involved in storage management for almost 30 years, I can't believe that I forgot that one. It's an alternative, but I prefer to make

Re: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space

2009-05-21 Thread Spencer, Mike
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: How do you handle SMS Pools out of space We have a couple of SMS pools that are usually 80% free all the time. However, occasionally they do fill