Bruno Zani wrote:
I am still stucked in z/OS 1.9, but I remember noticing that IBM was offering
the capability of using IDCAMS, in a four step process, to create system type
files cataloged in another master catalog.
The four steps are:
1) creation of a new master catalog and connexion of
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:46:10 -0400, John Eells wrote:
Yes, that's still how ServerPac works, and it is likely to continue to
work that way forever (because it uses different names temporarily to
avoid ENQ problems if you have to delete data sets and restart along the
way).
I discovered by
John, I agree that naming standards and such should be durable. BUT, when
you come into a shop that has had more system programmers than Carter has
little pills (I figure everyone here is old enough to remember that, including
me), you sometimes find old, durable standards that aren't worth
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Subject: Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
John, I agree that naming standards
I always thought it was liver pills, whatever those might be. I never got
it.
Due to truth in advertising laws in both Canada and the USA, they had to drop
liver from the name.
They had nothing to do with liver function.
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!
I am still stucked in z/OS 1.9, but I remember noticing that IBM was offering
the capability of using IDCAMS, in a four step process, to create system type
files cataloged in another master catalog.
The four steps are:
1) creation of a new master catalog and connexion of the same to the
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Behalf Of David G. Schlecht
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Subject: Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
I'm inclined to try to catalog the old CDSs into the new
catalog but RECATALOG will only work for the original catalog
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These are SYS1 datasets since
I believe that getting a SHCDS cataloged in a MCAT may not be too
difficult. It is my understanding that the VARY SMS,SHCDS
command initiates a process in the SMSVSAM address space that
results in the specified SHCDS being recatalogued if it is
discovered to be uncatalogued in the active
Jousma, David wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but I would have to question *why* migrate to a new
master catalog. If it is for a z/OS upgrade, it is not necessary. Use
indirect cataloging, eliminates a lot of extra work, especially if you
user a mod-9 or larger volume for your sysres, and keep
John Eells wrote:
I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new
master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software.
Maybe it is just a case/opportunity to apply some new naming standards for
catalog/page/SMF/IODF/etc datasets? Such changes are
Jousma, David wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but I would have to question *why* migrate to a new
master catalog. If it is for a z/OS upgrade, it is not necessary. Use
indirect cataloging, eliminates a lot of extra work, especially if you
user a mod-9 or larger volume for your sysres, and keep
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
John Eells wrote:
I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new
master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software.
Maybe it is just a case/opportunity to apply some new naming standards for
catalog/page/SMF/IODF/etc
I believe that getting a SHCDS cataloged in a MCAT
may not be too difficult. It is my understanding
that the VARY SMS,SHCDS command initiates a process
in the SMSVSAM address space that results in the
specified SHCDS being recatalogued if it is discovered
to be uncatalogued in the active
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:49:50 -0400, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote:
I might never understand why people think they need or even want a new
master catalog (or new page data sets, or...) for a new level of software.
It's not a good reason, but history. Prior to the days where you could
Were you aware that the SMS control datasets do not need to be
catalogued in the master catalog? Ours start with SYS3 and are
in a user catalog. We've had it this way since z/OS 1.6(?) and
have not had any problems.
--
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
How can you have an SHCDS that has
I'm inclined to try to catalog the old CDSs into the new
catalog but RECATALOG will only work for the original catalog.
What are the names? If they begin with SYS1, then you can simply
do the RECATALOG as there is special code to allow that. If not,
then you must do a MERGECAT command
in other thoughts
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David G. Schlecht
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Subject: Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
I'm
We're migrating from v1r8 to v1r10 and typically don't migrate the master
catalog. Rather we migrate the user cats but recreate the master cat. The
master catalog name contains the release, SYS1.MCAT108 or SYS1.MCAT110.
The SMSVSAM SHCDS datasets were cataloged with the 1.08 master cat and I
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:48 PM
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Subject: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
We're migrating from v1r8 to v1r10
How does one copy the catalog entry from the old to the new
master cat? Of course, we don't want this to interfere with
falling back.
- David
What are the names? If they begin with SYS1, then you can simply do the
RECATALOG as there is special code to allow
that. If not, then you
G. Schlecht
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: How to recatalog to a different master catalog?
How does one copy the catalog entry from the old to the new master
cat? Of course, we don't want this to interfere with falling back.
- David
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