Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Timothy Sipples wrote: Introducing the System z10 Business Class: http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/25584.wss Targeted toward x86 users. Not one mention of z/OS. Disgusting. :-( -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Targeted toward x86 users. Not one mention of z/OS. Disgusting. :-( Not only, but also ... Try getting the datasheet from that link. Who teaches these people about how to construct (meaningful) web pages. Bah

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Timothy Sipples
There's more information on the new System z10 BC now available here (click on the top graphic): http://www.ibm.com/systems/z and here: http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/z10bc Here are some of my thoughts The price reductions jump out. Specialty engines (IFLs, zAAPs, and zIIPs), with

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread John McKown
I'm looking at the announcement. But, being a bit ignorant, there are some features which I don't know what they are. Any help? Enhanced Application Preservation? Enhanced Firmware Simulation? (is that better/faster millicode?) Partial memory restart? Pseudo random number generator (PRNG)? I

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Staller, Allan
snip InfiniBand Host Bus: I am somewhat aware of what this is. What software supports it? z/VM Linux only? Or z/OS and z/VSE as well? What about in the future? From later in the list, is this only for Coupling Facility links? /snip z/OS yes (more recent releases only. 1.8???). Not sure about

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread R.S.
John McKown wrote: [...] InfiniBand Host Bus: I am somewhat aware of what this is. What software supports it? z/VM Linux only? Or z/OS and z/VSE as well? What about in the future? From later in the list, is this only for Coupling Facility links? I'd suggest Redbook about InfiniBand in z10.

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Marian Gasparovic
John, Infiniband is used a lot in z10 BC (same in EC). There are four types of fanout cards from CPC drawer. Only one is non-Infiniband, it is ICB-4. You have two types of IB-oprical for coupling links and one IB-copper which connects CPC drawer to I/O drawers. Obviously connection from CPC to I/O

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:37:50 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John McKown wrote: [...] InfiniBand Host Bus: I am somewhat aware of what this is. What software supports it? z/VM Linux only? Or z/OS and z/VSE as well? What about in the future? From later in the list, is this only for

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Post
On 10/21/2008 at 9:37 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- In few words Infiniband is used for copupling links only, so only z/OS (and CFCC) can exploit it. So, no VM, VSE, TPF, no Linux. For Linux, that will be changing in the not too distant future.

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Vitale
How about CPU Measurement Facility? The announcement pointed us to ResourceLink for more details, but all that came up was an abstract from the Research Journal: http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/abstracts/rd/531/jackson.html Mark Vitale Senior Software Engineer PERFMAN www.perfman.com

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Mark, high level answer - CPU measurement facility can be switched on from HMC when directed by IBM. It will collect extra performance data, very low level stuff, don't ask about details, I don't know. It was available before in other form which required an outage (I don't know if POR or partition

IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Introducing the System z10 Business Class: http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/25584.wss - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]