Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In fa4b9472-7337-4ad5-a094-0458df706...@comcast.net, on 12/17/2011 at 12:59 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: I was remembering MVS. A 64 KiB region sounds very small for MVS. Could that have been OS/360 but the conditional GETMAIN for 1 MiB been MVS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-16 Thread Staller, Allan
Back in the day, IEBCOPY used to do a conditional getmain for 1meg (1.5 meg?). if it got the storage, SYSUT3 and SYSUT4 were not used, thus reducing I/O and elapsed time. Also (at the time) IEBCOPY would run in a region much smaller than 1 meg. ISTR 64K, but am not positive. I do not know if

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc, on 12/16/2011 at 07:27 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com said: Also (at the time) IEBCOPY would run in a region much smaller than 1 meg. ISTR 64K, but am not positive. That would not have been in the same timeframe as a

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-16 Thread Ed Gould
Seymour: I was remembering MVS. I was using numbers in my original reply from SMF and IEFACTRT accounting in sysout. I don't recall if a conditional getmain would show up as used. I do not think so as I specifically remember seeing sizes less than 320K (I want to say 256K) on the job

IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread John P Kalinich
Has anyone compared the performance of the new IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13 with the older version? Regards, John K -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
Has anyone compared the performance of the new IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13 with the older version? Regards, John K John At Share Aug 2011 there was a session dedicated to IEBCOPY and it had some comparison data in there. You might want to check that out. Lizette

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Yifat Oren
: יום ד 14 דצמבר 2011 15:25 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13 Has anyone compared the performance of the new IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13 with the older version? Regards, John K John At Share Aug 2011 there was a session dedicated to IEBCOPY and it had some comparison data

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:57:21 +0200, Yifat Oren wrote: Thank you for the tip, Lizette. http://share.confex.com/share/117/webprogram/Handout/Session9940/SHARE%20994 0_IEBCOPY%20New%20Tricks.pdf Grrr... Wrap!

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Gil, I can't speak for all of them of course, but: IEBCOPY warning messages - Issue W and/or E suffix messages for severity 4 errors. Show return code for each COPY/COPYMOD. Is still an open requirement in the share system. http://reqs4.share.org/Display.jsp?r=SSMVSE11069 SSMVSE11069 Status:

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:07:22 -0600, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Gil, I can't speak for all of them of course, but: IEBCOPY warning messages - Issue W and/or E suffix messages for severity 4 errors. Show return code for each COPY/COPYMOD. Is still an open requirement in the share system.

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Gil, That's what was in Volume 7, where the IEBCOPY messages are, so that's what I used. FYI, even though that requirement shows up as mine, it was originally written by someone else. I simply rewrote it as part of the Share requirements committee. IBM's response had indicated that the message

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
John, I ran a few tests today and I'm seeing pretty good results, similar to what are in the presentation. Here's some data on one job that copies five large and one small PDS: T 12.02.3312.05.48 3 min 15 seconds J12.11.13 12.15.46 4 min 35 seconds MA

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread John Eells
Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Gil, That's what was in Volume 7, where the IEBCOPY messages are, so that's what I used. FYI, even though that requirement shows up as mine, it was originally written by someone else. I simply rewrote it as part of the Share requirements committee. IBM's response had

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Ed Gould
Mary Anne: Way back when and continuing forward I always put on parm=size=1000K on all IEBCOPY (especially in SMPE) and got great throughput usually 50 percent (or more) faster runtimes. I think I started doing this in the 1970's. I know we had to use it when copying the CDS's (when

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:35:26 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: Way back when and continuing forward I always put on parm=size=1000K on all IEBCOPY (especially in SMPE) and got great throughput usually 50 percent (or more) faster runtimes. I think I started doing this in the 1970's. I know we had to use it

Re: IEBCOPY in z/OS 1.13

2011-12-14 Thread Ed Gould
I honestly don't think there was a default as the region it ran in I think was 256K. Giving it plenty of memory on the parm really did help out. I know my SMPE runs ran faster than any elses in the group. I also set up a larger size (4096K,1024K) on the link/binder runs and SMPE just ran