Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-22 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Why do you fear Logr records will be lost? If you specify AUTODELETE(NO) and RETPD(0), Logr will delete records as CICS indicates, not by its own decisions. If you want to backup your logstream data, I wonder what you can do with the backups. Kees. McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in

LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread McKown, John
As all are likely aware, CICS no longer uses its own journals. Instead it use the z/OS system logger. I know zippo about this function. I have tried reading the books. But, as far as my comprehension is concerned, they may have well been translated from Sanskrit to British English by an

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Richard Pinion
1) //STEP1EXEC PGM=IXCL1DSU //ACCIGN DD DUMMY //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DEFINEDS SYSPLEX(BAPTPLEX)

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread McKown, John
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LOGR for Dummies? John, Try the System Programmer's Guide to z/OS System Logger Redbook (SG24-6898). The Introduction to System Logger and System Logger fundamentals should give you what you want. Regards

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
You have to set up the Logger subsystem, if not already done in your system(s). THE bible is: SA22-7625-xx z/OS Vxxx MVS Setting Up a Sysplex See: Chapter 9. Planning for System Logger Applications You must decide if your CICS logs (and therefor the Logstreams) must be shared by more than one

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread McKown, John
Discussion List [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LOGR for Dummies? You have to set up the Logger subsystem, if not already done in your system(s). THE bible is: SA22-7625-xx z/OS Vxxx

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Richard, I don't think this is what Richard is looking for: it will keep him as big a dummy as he was before he asked the question. Besides his system programmer does not like him to blindly submit this JCL into the system, without knowing what it takes to create coupledatasets, update COUPLExx

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LOGR for Dummies? I guess that I wasn't clear in my original message. I do have all the logstreams set up and everything is running OK for the most part. But I did everything in cookbook style without understanding why I did

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
:Re: LOGR for Dummies? John, Try the System Programmer's Guide to z/OS System Logger Redbook (SG24-6898). The Introduction to System Logger and System Logger fundamentals should give you what you want. Regards, Don ** Don Deese, Computer Management Sciences

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Shirey
John, If it's understanding how CICS uses the logger that you're mostly interested in, read anything you can find by Jim Grauel, like this: http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/PubAllNum/PRS183 And of course, search the archives of CICS-L. (But you already knew that) HTH, Greg

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Cogley
on. These are a great place to start. Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: LOGR for Dummies? As all are likely aware, CICS no longer uses its own journals

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
Your original message implied that you have LOGGER up and running, especially for CICS, already. I would like to see if your JCL that is being used is specifying the DELETE parameter in the unload step. That could be troublesome in your circumstance. If it's not there, then re-run the unload

Re: LOGR for Dummies?

2005-06-21 Thread McKown, John
prohibited. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LOGR for Dummies? Your original message implied that you have LOGGER up