Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Gary Green
The closest I ever came to a Cray was seeing it in the movie "Sneakers". On Fri Nov 9 14:19 , Ed Finnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > >In a message dated 11/9/2007 12:40:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Have you ever looked inside of a Cray? > > >>> >They were l

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/9/2007 12:40:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you ever looked inside of a Cray? >> They were liquid cooled? Did hear Seymour Cray talk about delivering a nice 5 nanosecond machine only to have the software people bugger it up to a 9 na

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Howard Brazee
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:09:59 -0500, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's interesting to think about measurement in CPU cycles, too. With a >2 GHz cycle time, two machine cycles are consumed for every 9.7" or so >of travel through a shielded wire. Have you ever looked inside of a Cray?

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Howard Brazee
On 9 Nov 2007 08:38:45 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: >> I can't remember the whole thing, but I believe that Grace >> Hopper used to use different rope lengths to show how long, >> or short various measurements of time were: a nano second vs. >> a full second. I used to have on

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Langford
Chase, John wrote: Hmmm. A nanosecond is one billionth of a second, so the "long" rope would have to be a billion times longer that the "short" one. Grace Hopper gave out nanoseconds in the form of a piece of wire (about 11.75 inches long). This represented the actual distance light travel

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/9/2007 8:22:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I believe that Grace Hopper used to use different rope lengths to show how long, or short various >> Well she used to give out nano seconds as 11.94" wrapped copper, but the milli second was

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Frank Merlenbach
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 11/09/2007 10:37:57 AM: > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. > > > > [ snip ] > > > > I can't remember the whole thing, but I believe that Grace > > Hopper used to use different rope len

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John S. Giltner, Jr. > > [ snip ] > > I can't remember the whole thing, but I believe that Grace > Hopper used to use different rope lengths to show how long, > or short various measurements of time were: a nano sec

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
all possible. reply to comment about RPS-miss (in the vmesa-l flavor of this thread) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#5 Poster of computer hardware events? i had been making comments over a period of yrs that disk relative system thruput had declined by an order of magnitude (i.e. disk

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Phil Smith III wrote: (Cross-posted to IBM-VM and IBM-MAIN) A buddy asked me: "At a previous employer, someone had an article, poster or something (I know - real specific - it was 15+ years ago) that tried to put the time for computer events into perspective. It started with the quickest inst

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-09 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Phil Smith III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > (Cross-posted to IBM-VM and IBM-MAIN) > > A buddy asked me: > > "At a previous employer, someone had an article, poster or something (I know - real specific - it was 15+ years ago) that tried to put the time for c

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 11/8/2007 1:02:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Direct Access Storage Device read of a 4K block, if the data is not in the DASD Subsystem's cache, would take at least one millisecond, which is ten to the minus three power seconds. The d

Re: Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 11/8/2007 12:55:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tried to put the time for computer events into perspective. A 100-MIPS processor can execute 100 million "average" instructions per secon d, so one "average" instruction takes one hundred-milliont

Poster of computer hardware events?

2007-11-08 Thread Phil Smith III
(Cross-posted to IBM-VM and IBM-MAIN) A buddy asked me: "At a previous employer, someone had an article, poster or something (I know - real specific - it was 15+ years ago) that tried to put the time for computer events into perspective. It started with the quickest instruction (RR) having a b