Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-29 Thread Howard Whitehead
Sorry gang. I got pulled away on other fires and forgot to update what happened. As somnone had suggested, I went to the HSM Storage Administration Guide, Chapter 5.1.9 - Case 9. Reestablish Access to Previously Deleted Mugrated Data Sets (No Backup Exists, ML2 Only) at

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think you use RECOVER rather than RECALL when it is not cataloged. Lizette Hello everyone. I have some datasets on ML2 that have long since been uncataloged that I need to recall. I've loked for ways to either recatalog then recall them or recall and recatalog them, but no luckthere yet.

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread John Kelly
If you tried to recat them to MIGRAT2 and they don't recall, then you'll need to check the MCDS to see if HSM knows about them- probably not. If you know the tape that they were migrated to and it hasn't been recycled you could build a MCDS entry but you'll have to want this data very badly.

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:12:12 -0500, Howard Whitehead hwhiteh...@statesman.com wrote: Hello everyone. I have some datasets on ML2 that have long since been uncataloged that I need to recall. I've loked for ways to either recatalog then recall them or recall and recatalog them, but no luckthere

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Howard Whitehead
I didn't know you COULD recat to MIGRAT2. Could I trouble you for some sample code for that to save me some time? I tried the RECOVER command but I got an ARC1128 BACKUP/DUMP COPY DOES NOT EXIST. Thanks all. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Darth Keller
If you tried to recat them to MIGRAT2 and they don't recall, then you'll need to check the MCDS to see if HSM knows about them- probably not. If you know the tape that they were migrated to and it hasn't been recycled you could build a MCDS entry but you'll have to want this data very badly.

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Howard Whitehead
The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just that the data set has been uncataloged for a very long time so HSM on't allow the recall. I'm trying to research recating to MIGRAT2 but so far I'm strikin' out. Thanks, Howard

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
Howard, I am not sure how you would catalog a volser of MIGRAT2 which is 7 chars. The VSAM Define seems to only allow for 6 chars. Maybe somebody on the list can figure this out. Lizette The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just that the

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Staller, Allan
See my previous post: MIGRAT/MIGRAT2 is a display convention. Catalog to volser MIGRAT. HSM will figure it out. DEF NVSAM(NAME('original.dsn') DEVT(3390) VOL(MIGRAT)) Then issue hrecall snip The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just that the

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am not sure how you would catalog a volser of MIGRAT2 which is 7 chars. The VSAM Define seems to only allow for 6 chars. That's because the OS only allows 6 chars for a volser (tape or disk). Maybe somebody on the list can figure this out. It's not a VSAM restriction, unless you call an OS

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread McKown, John
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Whitehead Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set The onl copy I have is the tape ML2. As far as I can tell, my MCDS data is good, it's just

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Howard Whitehead
Thanks for the info. I had missed it before. I also found something in the HSM Stg Admin Guide 5.1.9 Case 9...reestablish access to Previously Deleted Migrated Data Sets (No Backup Exists, ML2 Only). You nd this may have me on the right track. I'll update with what happens. Thanks all! Howard

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread John Kelly
snip I am not sure how you would catalog a volser of MIGRAT2 which is 7 chars unsnip That was my fault. You only catalog the migrat, I put the migrat2 to indicate it was ml2 BUT it's only a display. Howard seems sure that the file exists on ML2 and I really hope that he knows that for sure

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Traylor, Terry
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set See my previous post: MIGRAT/MIGRAT2 is a display convention. Catalog to volser MIGRAT. HSM will figure it out. DEF NVSAM(NAME

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Staller, Allan
AFAIK either will work. snip For MIGRAT2, wouldn't you specify DEVT() having as the device type used for HSM ML2 media rather than specifying 3390? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
MIGRAT2 is code speak for catalogued to volser MIGRAT on a TAPE unit as opposed to a DASD unit. Unfortunately, as you saw from the responses, not all of us speak the same code. A more specific response may have been more helpful (I mean that in the nicest possible way). (8-{]} - Too busy

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Traylor, Terry
, June 03, 2009 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set MIGRAT2 is code speak for catalogued to volser MIGRAT on a TAPE unit as opposed to a DASD unit. Unfortunately, as you saw from the responses, not all of us speak the same code. A more specific response

Re: HSM: Recall uncataloged data set

2009-06-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is true that MIGRAT2 can also be on as DASD device. Yes, but. MIGRAT2, by itself, is meaningless since volsers can only be 6 bytes long. A detailed description would have helped. PS: The first shop that I worked with HSM in had ML1 ML2 both on disk. And, that was back when DISK was